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> Hi All: I have a cousin who is on blood thinners, and want to

> eventually find a way through diet to keep her blood at a certain

> level. I had read somewhere where vinegar would help thin out

your

> blood. I was wondering about Kombucha. Can anyone shed any light

on

> this?

> Thanks, Summer

>

I can speak from personal experience on this. Kombucha will

increase the effectiveness of the blood thinner (coumadin/warfarin)

so your cousin will need to closely monitor her INR/Protime if she

starts drinking Kombucha. I waited a bit to long to have my INR

checked after starting Kombucha and it jumped from 2.5 to 4.6 (I'm

lucky that I'm not covered in bruises!). The amount of blood

thinner that she takes will probably need to be adjusted downward

(mine has been).

She should also let her doctor know she is starting on Kombucha.

Some doctors may discourage drinking Kombucha (personally I'd find

a different doctor) other doctors just recommend that you keep a

consistent diet (no binging!) and have your blood INR checked more

often if you are making dietary changes.

I have been on warfarin for 3 1/2 years but recently (last 6 months)

have been making some siginificant dietary changes. More whole

foods, fruits and vegetables, daily supplements, Kombucha, etc. I

make sure to get my INR checked regularly especially when making

changes to my diet. Kombucha has impacted my INR more than anything

else I've done. So you do need to be careful.

Kathy

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  • 3 years later...

DC's,Got a patient who I was treating for mid thoracic pain. After he wasn't responding to care I sent him to a neurosurgeon and had a MRI because we suspected a HNP of the thoracic. MRI revealed fluid in his lung, pulmonologist found that he had blood clots in his lung. He has been put on blood thinners for the past few months and is now seeing a physical therapist. His PT has told him that he can not see a chiropractor because of his blood thinners. Is this true? He would like to be adjusted because he continues to have some discomfort in his mid back. Any advise/treatment options? Yours in Health,Dr. Adam Derr, D.C.541-385-7890"There is no effect without a cause. Chiropractors adjust causes. Others treat effects." B.J. Palmer,

D.C.

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A few Qs Doc...Has the origin of the emboli been established? How old is the pt? How long has he been on Coumadin? What is his general state of health? Does he have a IVC filter? As to whether he should see a DC is less of the question than whether CMT is appropriate. There's nothing the PT is providing the patient that you shouldn't be able to. You should also be able to perform gentle mobilization in lieu of manipulation with good results. However, if the pt has an IVC filter, the wisdom of even thoracolumbar repetitive extension should be questioned. Your risks to manipulation are embolism and bruising. The increased pressure to the thorax might loosen an aortic or iliac thrombus, resulting in a pulmonary embolism that could be fatal. In geriatric pts on Coumadin therapy, even mild bruising can turn into a real hornet's nest. The cost/benefit of manipulation seems to outweigh the risk, but you should still have other items in your toolbox other than CMT that can help him with his pain. W. Snell,

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American College of Sports MedicineMember, International Society of Clinical Rehabilitation Specialists From: docderrdc@...Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:17:51 -0800Subject: blood thinners

DC's,Got a patient who I was treating for mid thoracic pain. After he wasn't responding to care I sent him to a neurosurgeon and had a MRI because we suspected a HNP of the thoracic. MRI revealed fluid in his lung, pulmonologist found that he had blood clots in his lung. He has been put on blood thinners for the past few months and is now seeing a physical therapist. His PT has told him that he can not see a chiropractor because of his blood thinners. Is this true? He would like to be adjusted because he continues to have some discomfort in his mid back. Any advise/treatment options? Yours in Health,Dr. Adam Derr, D.C.541-385-7890"There is no effect without a cause. Chiropractors adjust causes. Others treat effects." B.J. Palmer,

D.C.

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