Fwd: OCA 11-18-10 DRAFT minutes [1 Attachment]

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Here is the draft minutes of the 11/18/10 OCA meeting in case you are

unable to open Minga's document.

Bruce Chaser, D.C.

Oregon Chiropractic Association Meeting

November 18, 2010

University of Western States - Hampton Hall

Portland, Oregon

General Membership Meeting - called to order by Dr. Don Ferrante at 6:15 pm

Agenda was presented -

1. Introduction of the OCA Board of Directors

2. Financial Report

3. Membership Report & District Updates

4. Recap of 2010

5. Goals for 2011

- a motion was made by Dr. Bryce Milam to amend the proposed agenda to

include the

following items and he moved that these topics be added as the first

items of business for

tonight’s meeting:

1. Election of a five member nominating committee tonight from the

members present

as required by the OCA bylaws (paragraph 5, subsection 5-3)

2. Election of a new 12-member Board after December of this year when

the current

Interim Board Members term expire as required by the OCA bylaws (page 4,

subsection 4-A-2)

3. Discussion of general membership concerns regarding the OCA Lobbyists

- this motion was seconded by Dr. Colwell and passed

- a motion was made by Dr. Bruce Pace to appoint a parliamentarian for

the Rules Of

... this motion was seconded by Dr. Ron Grice and passed

- Ann Goldeen was appointed as the parliamentarian, along with Mike

Nominations for the 5 member nominating committee was as follows:

Dr. Palmer nominated Dr. Bruce Pace

Dr. Dan nominated Dr. DeShaw

Dr. Joyce McClure nominated Dr. Minga Guerrero

Dr. Ann Goldeen nominated Dr. Huma Pierce

Dr. Neil Towne nominated Dr. Colwell

Dr. Colwell nominated Dr. Holzapfel

Dr. Duemling nominated Dr. Ed Hacmac

Dr. Tony Saboe nominated Dr. Ron Johansen

Dr. Huma Pierce nominated Dr. Pierce

- the vote was taken by ballot

While the ballots were being collected and tabulated, the agenda was

moved forward and the

following discussion ensued -

Dr. Bryce Milam - he brought up the point that there may be a

disagreement regarding lobbying

efforts and ideas... he thinks that there may a problem with our

lobbying efforts

Dr. Dan - he stated that this is not the case and that the

legislative committee felt that both

lobbyists (Dr. Vern Saboe and Mazzarra) can work together

Dr. Duemling - he stated that the lobbying efforts have been very

balanced

Dr. Dan - stated that nobody has ever come to the OCA board with

concerns about our

lobbying efforts

Dr. DeShaw - he stated that we have had great lobbyists with Dr.

Vern Saboe in field of

WC & PIP, etc., but not with regards to other governmental affairs...

and this is why we hired

another individual, so that our profession could be be better served in

this way... our profession is

bigger than just PIP and WC

Dr. Pitcairn - we have not had a chance to even present what

the lobbyists have done

Dr. Strauss (Gresham) - he wanted to know who appoints the

lobbyists? Answer... the

OCA board.

Dr. Tony Saboe - he stated that he respectfully disagrees with Dr.

DeShaw... he feels that the

prior lobbyist tanked the profession and that Vern has put much more

into this profession... he is

a DC and cares only about the profession... he feels that Vern has the

connections with both

sides... and he feels that the board does not communicate with the

profession

Dr. Don Ferrante - he stated that he (Dr. Don) was instrumental at has

taking this profession out

of $60,000 of debt, that the OCA recently honored Dr. Vern and his wife

for their efforts, and that

Dr. Vern Saboe he has gone back to full time practice and could not

attend all the meetings that

needed to be attended outside of WC and PIP efforts

he added that Dr. Vern Saboe is still the highest paid lobbyist hired by

the OCA as $

3,000/month

and that Mazzarra’s firm is paid $ 2,500/month for public

relations and

$2,500/month for lobbying

since we have hired Mazzarra, we now are going to meetings and

we now have a

presence with the Oregon Health Council who will be making all the decisions

we did not renew the contracts of the other 2 lobbyists (Bob Oleson and

Mason), as

we decided to go in another directions with Vern and

the OCA has worked both sides of the isle (Democrats and Republicans)..

..and Vern had us

back Kitzhaber

the change in direction is not out of disrespect to Vern... we honored

him and wanted him to

help us move in right direction

Dr. Ron Grice - ICE-PAC contributions... " many of us have attended

various meetings around

the state "

he wanted to let us know that ICE-PAC contributions were more than reported

he also wanted to know if the lobbyists contracts are up soon

Dr. Bryce Milam - he honored Drs. Ferrante and DeShaw about being able

to finally bring this

state together... and he wants us to know that what has been achieved

with ODOC/CAO coming

together is the greatest thing that has happened regarding the

Chiropractic profession in the State

of Oregon... and he does not want to see anything derail this

he asked if Dr. Vern Saboe can do what we need

he stated that the general membership cannot be involved in lobbying

decisions as they do

not have enough information

all he is asking, is that we take into account what Vern has done and

that he be involved in

making recommendations to the way the lobbying efforts should go

Dr. Don Ferrante - he stated, " Do you think that the 12 member OCA board

would have not

taken this into consideration before making these decisions? "

Dr. Vern Saboe - he gave us some background history about ICE-PAC and

lay lobbying efforts

he stated that he jumped into lobbying efforts when he could tell that

Mr. Harvey (past CAD

lobbyist) was not working with the best interest of the chiropractic

profession/association

he felt that, due to our lay lobbying efforts, that we git more

accomplished in 2005 than any

other year

he stated that he was paid from CAD... and the balance of his fees came

from ICE-PAC

he feels that Mazzara came up with a plan where all PAC

contributions went to

democratic candidates.. .and he disagreed with her spending recommendations

he does not feel that we have agreement about lobbying spendatures...

and he feels that

this is a horrible strategy... and that he and are not on the

same page

he feels that Mazarra was against his spending strategy

his strategy includes.., first... second... and thirdly...

Dr. Don Ferrante - he stated that we all need to understand that we are

all DC’s and Dr.Vern

Saboe is our employee... Dr. Vern apparently was not happy with our

direction and called all of

you, as our employee, instear of venting his issues to his employer

Mazzara - she introduced herself and discussed her background and

accomplishments

she stated that she recently raised $1 .5 million for Wu’s

campaign, which was

instrumental in getting him re-elected and in getting Dr. Don Ferrante

an audience on the

airport tarmac with President Obama during his recent visit to Portland

- she outlined the generalities of her overall plan... she states that

the OCA is still a new

association without a brand in the new healthcare reform field and

public affairs... she was

hired for health care reform and her recommendations regarding

legislative contributions were

to go after legislative members involved in the healthcare reform

issue... not on WC and PIP

issues

she stated that she is stunned with how Vern has called her out without

having previously

pulled her aside to discuss any potential disagreements and that she was

blind-sided by

Vern’s attack tonight.., and she found this to be very unprofessional

and against the code of

conduct between lobbyists

Dr. Dan - our decision was not to get rid of Dr. Vern Saboe...

but rather to have 2 lobbying

efforts working side by side in parallel

Dr. Don Ferrante stated that is was now time to go back to the agenda -

results of the election of

the 5 member nomination committee is as follows:

Minga Guerrero

Colwell

Holzapfel

Ron Johansen

Bruce Pace

- it was brought up that the OCA bylaws are very vague with regards to

nominations and elections...

and that we need to have election by the end of the year

- Mike stated that the nominating committee is to come up

nominations.., the nominating

committee does not select the board members, as this is voted on by the

membership... it is a

nominating and recruiting committee

Dr. Minga Guerrero made a motion that we make no decisions regarding

lobbying contracts at this

time, that we will proceed as already agreed, and that any decisions

regarding contracts will be taken

up by the newly OCA Board of Directors... this motion was seconded by

Dr. Tony Saboe and the

motion passed

Dr. Ron Grice made a motion (text submitted to the OCA secretary and

written here as submitted)

that all aspects of each election of the new OCA board members be

conducted by the newly elected

five-member Nominating Committee which would include:

1. Sending a solicitation letter to the general membership asking for

interested parties to serve

on the OCA Board.

2. Production of a ballot of candidates to be sent to the general

membership.

3. Tallying of the ballots and announcement of the election results to

the general membership.

4. Archival of all original ballots from all elections for a two year

period of time.

- this motion was seconded by Dr. Bryce Milam and it passed unanimously

Dr. Joyce McClure stated that the nominating committee is to select from

pool of screened

applicants to make sure that they are qualified for these positions

Mike - he stated that any member of the OCA can run for a board

position

Strom - she stated that anyone can write-in a candidate also

Dr. Ron Johansen - he stated that the board needs help from field... the

membership should

give guideline to nominating committee to make a reasonable amount of

nominees

- the general consensus about this was that this would be too much

micro-managing and that

this should be left up to the nominating committee

Dr. Colwell - he stated that he feels that it is important to have

rotation of the OCA board

so that continuity of policy and vision can be maintained.., and that we

need to come up with a

plan for this rather than replace the all of board at one time

Dr. Pitcairn - we looked at the bylaws at one of our initial

meetings and it made sense

that we rotate off/on members... this was the spirit of our intention

Dr. Ron Grice - he stated that it would be foolish to vote out all 12

members at once... instead

we should have the membership vote on 6 new members

Dr. Don Ferrante - he proceeded by giving a presentation about the

mission of the OCA, a

review of our membership efforts, make up of our membership, and a recap

of the OCA’s efforts

accomplishments in 2010

- after completing his presentation, he opened up the floor for questions...

Dr. Joyce McClure - she stated, that on behalf of the OBCE, that she

would like to

have better representation from OCA at the OBCE meetings

Dr. Minga Guerrero - she wanted to know if is there was a chance to have

a general

membership meeting at the convention... Dr. Don Ferrante stated that we have

this and that at the end of the day, everyone bolts

- Dr. Vern Saboe passed out a handout outlining his Legislative Report

- the General Membership meeting was adjourned at 8:15 pm

--- OCA 11-18-10 DRAFT minutes [1 Attachment]

Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:48:25 -0500

From: AboWoman@...

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Listserv,

Here are the draft minutes of the 11-18-10 meeting. In just a second,

I'll also cut and paste to an email for those of you who may not be able

to open this. Print and bring in case there are questions surrounging

this issue.

Regarding the checks to assist in paying legal counsel; *please make

checks payable to : Jim Jennings

*

To be more clear. The estimate I had of $650, was a 'to date' bill. It's

far from the entire bill. I have no idea how long this meeting will be

on 12-14-10. The members will need help with legal questions should they

arise during this upcoming general membership meeting.

I would like to thank those that have come fwd already with offers to

donate.

See you soon,

Minga Guerrero