Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hi Woody I found this all very interesting and many of you will have heard me express concern recently about Hv and Sn education and what students are learning. I know we need the academic background but the job also requires some very practical skills both in terms of common sense, emotional intelligence and enhanced interpersonal skills. Many of theses are not academic skills they are skills you learn by knowing and doing and by understanding yourself. So for me there is a side to HV and SN education that is very underdeveloped as it presently has to meet the needs of academic institutions. has reminded me on many occasions of this need and how you just cannot always do the things they way I would like them done. Practice Educators/CPTs are really important in this respect but my observation of practice says they just do not have the time and not always the right experience to do what is required. Also once qualified HV and Sn need to hit the ground running but all my understanding of development and leadership says this is an impossibility and does not lead to good practice. Maybe this is something we need to discuss at the SENATE away weekend In the very early 1980s – I got into health visitor education on the back of a shortage of lecturers and some national pump priming of secondments – maybe we need something like that again with the HV implementation plan to ensure we get those with the knowledge and the know how the right places. Margaret From: Caan, Woody Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:23 PM Cc: Judy.@... ; FitzSimons Vita ; Almond, Palo ; Jane March-Mc ; (nee Mathews), ; Jane Appleton Subject: RE: call to action in the news [1 Attachment] Dear , You and ine and Sally have done so much to keep nurturing future academics in the discipline of health visiting, but as the attached paper describes, the pool of professional leaders in Higher Education is very small and not spread evenly, geographically. Around England there has been quite a lot of recent discussion of community practice teachers (thank you Palo, for your helpful HEAcademy meeting) but new University capacity will be needed to underpin the education of 4,200 extra health visitors.... At the DH, Judy is undertaking the vital work on academic capacity for development of the Public Health workforce, and I am copying Judy in here. Vita FitzSimons at the Academy of nursing, midwifery & health visiting research may also play an enabling role in bringing the right people together, in time. Does anyone have close links with the current NIHR Fellowship scheme (including the clinical nurse academic dimension of Modernising Nursing Careers)? The clock may be ticking to bring some former PCT team leaders/ consultant health visitors into University departments, in preparation of academic leadership roles? Jane M-M and , this may be relevant to your activities during 2011? If Universities require many more Health Visitors with PhDs, Jane A, as editor of Community Practitioner, who is out there with enough research publications that a one-year PhD-by-publication programme might get them appropriate recognition? My guess is only one or two people in the whole country, because only one HV has published in my journal JPMH, since I became its editor.... but you would know if there is a pool of hidden talent out there! That website refers to mobilisation: calling all academics, Woody. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of CowleySent: 12 February 2011 10:28 Subject: call to action in the news The health visitor implementation plan has hit the websites now, with some (e.g. Healthcare Today) just providing a link. The Workforce Implementation Portal linked to NHS Employers, which gives a good summary, seehttp://www.nhsemployers.org/PlanningYourWorkforce/Maternity-services/Pages/HealthVisitorImplementationPlan2011-15.aspx: "The document, Health visitor implementation plan 2011-15, A call to action, provides the detail to support the Government's commitment to recruit an extra 4,200 health visitors by 2015. The plan sets out the vision of the new health visiting service, the call to action for the stakeholders involved, the pathway to 2015 and information about the work programmes that will support the implementation. A full service model is outlined that will need to be commissioned and provided for accordingly. Download the plan from the Department of Health website. The DH has also written to all PCT and SHA chief executives drawing their attention to the plan and setting out actions that they need to take. A copy of this letter is available on the Department of Health website. The implementation plan recognises the importance of partnership working and outlines what families can expect from the new health visiting service, the role health visitors can play and what will be expected from commissioners and providers. The plan provides an opportunity to promote a revitalised health visiting service and already identified pathfinder sites and those demonstrating elements of good practice will begin rolling out the service ready for March 2012. Supporting work programmes The DH will also lead three work programmes to support the implementation plan: Growing the workforce: Will work to collect relevant data on health visitors, plan recruitment and retention initiatives and work on increased places and flexible training options. Professional mobilisation: Will develop the communications and engagement strategy, share good practice, design and delivery of a recruitment campaign and work on leadership development. Aligning the delivery systems: will align the service vision and model for key stakeholders, develop a commissioning framework and outcome measures. The NHS Employers organisation is a member of these groups and attends to represent the views of employers as the implementation plan is rolled out." best wishes Cowley sarahcowley183@... http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service~EMERGING EXCELLENCE: In the Research Assessment Exercise (RAE) 2008, more than 30% of our submissions were rated as 'Internationally Excellent' or 'World-leading'.Among the academic disciplines now rated 'World-leading' are Allied Health Professions Studies; Art Design; English Language Literature; Geography Environmental Studies; History; Music; Psychology; and Social Work Social Policy Administration. Visit www.anglia.ac.uk/rae for more information. This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the above named recipient(s) only and may be privileged. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 You are right, Woody and, as you say, it is really too late for the forthcoming clinical academic fellowships, unless someone already has a worked up proposal and a lot of time to concentrate on honing it over the next few weeks. Competition for these things is fierce. All NIHR funding has to be seen as 'NHS-relevant,' and until recently health visiting topics were not considered important. However, things are changing: at the end of last year, for the first time in 20 years of funding applications, I had a proposal shortlisted that is solely about health visiting services (doesn't mean it will be funded of course: that's the next round!). I did have a couple funded 15 years ago, from a locally operated scheme, and a couple from charities, but basically any research to do with health visiting had to be disguised within primary care or community nursing projects, and had to encompass other things, so the central point was hidden. I guess the same factors have been greatly affecting the choice of Masters and doctoral studies, as well, but I think we are now entering an era when it is possible to talk of 'health visiting' and 'health visiting services' again, so it is possible to apply for funding to research them. The term 'health visiting service' is even used and defined in the current NHS Operating Framework. And we desperately need more research specifically about the work that health visitors do, across the board of ages and vulnerable groups.So if anyone is thinking of applying for doctoral, or post-doctoral fellowships, this is the time to start planning. The next round of NIHR funding to consider is due at the end of the year/January, which gives just about enough time to work something up, or the nursing and allied health ones are usually due in April/May: I think they will also continue. best wishesOn 12 Feb 2011, at 13:23, Caan, Woody wrote:[Attachment(s) from Caan, Woody included below]Dear , You and ine and Sally have done so much to keep nurturing future academics in the discipline of health visiting, but as the attached paper describes, the pool of professional leaders in Higher Education is very small and not spread evenly, geographically. Around England there has been quite a lot of recent discussion of community practice teachers (thank you Palo, for your helpful HEAcademy meeting) but new University capacity will be needed to underpin the education of 4,200 extra health visitors.... At the DH, Judy is undertaking the vital work on academic capacity for development of the Public Health workforce, and I am copying Judy in here. Vita FitzSimons at the Academy of nursing, midwifery & health visiting research may also play an enabling role in bringing the right people together, in time. Does anyone have close links with the current NIHR Fellowship scheme (including the clinical nurse academic dimension of Modernising Nursing Careers)? The clock may be ticking to bring some former PCT team leaders/ consultant health visitors into University departments, in preparation of academic leadership roles? Jane M-M and , this may be relevant to your activities during 2011? If Universities require many more Health Visitors with PhDs, Jane A, as editor of Community Practitioner, who is out there with enough research publications that a one-year PhD-by-publication programme might get them appropriate recognition? My guess is only one or two people in the whole country, because only one HV has published in my journal JPMH, since I became its editor.... but you would know if there is a pool of hidden talent out there! That website refers to mobilisation: calling all academics,Woody. Cowleysarahcowley183@...http://myprofile.cos.com/S124021COn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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