Re: Losing fat while gaining muscle impossible

[Guest guest]

> decided to meet with a personal trainer today and I was told that

> you can't build muscle and burn fat at the same time. Supposedly,

> this is why people with a lot of fat have a hard time losing fat

> in the beginning on the body for life program.

Get another trainer.

If he said that line about 'people with alot of fat have a hard time

losing fat in the beginning of the BFL program' either doesnt know

the program nor the great results it can bring, especially to people

who have alot to lose. No its not locarb with the fantastic

waterweightloss effect that lasts till you eat a carb, but rather

its true honest steady fatloss. Gaining muscle changes your

metabolism. I suppose he wants to put you on a starvation 1000

calorie 'fatloss' diet? So while you are eating less ala BFL style,

he thinks you wont gain any muscle? What alot of BS! Of course you

will gain muscle! Thats the whole point to change your metabolism!

He probabaly wants you to jiggle away on the cardio machine till

you're a jigglier smaller version of yourself and THEN lift weights

and eat 3000 calories a day! Get another trainer.

Take a real hard look at the pictures on both the BFL site plus the

BodyChangers site. Do you think these people did a cutting phase

first and then bulked up? No they lost bodyfat and gained muscle at

the same time. Why? Because they are not professional bodybuilders

who need to shred weight for contests and overeat in the off season.

Because they are average people who have learned how to eat right

and exercise their butts off. Get another trainer.

For every article of the kind you posted, I could look up others

that say differently - that the average person CAN gain muscle while

losing bodyfat. Who to believe? Get another trainer. ;-)

<<joni>>

*Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long*

*

[Guest guest]

I just can't agree with his statement based on my own personal

experience. When I first started BFL in 2000, I lost enough fat and

gained enough muscle that you could see the 6-pack abs under the

" insulation " and my quads got rock hard. I lost something like

7inches off my waist.

The more muscle muscle you have the more fat your going to burn. I

think the reason BFL doesn't recommend those hour long aerobic

sessions is so that you don't overtrain and then don't have what it

takes to build the muscle that burns the fat. It does allow for

moderate aerobic activity on days that you lift though.

I would definitely find a new trainer. You don't want to use one that

won't work with the program that you're using.

debra

>

> decided to meet with a personal trainer today and I was told that

> you can't build muscle and burn fat at the same time. Supposedly,

> this is why people with a lot of fat have a hard time losing fat in

> the beginning on the body for life program. I told him to give me

> until next week to decide if I want to work with him permanently.

> What do all of you think about this? Here is an article on this

>

> http://www.diet-reviews-zone.com/Article197.htm

[Guest guest]

Not true!

I am no scientist or expert.. However, I can speak from own

experience. My first 12 weeks on BFL, I lost 30 lbs of fat and gained

5.5 lbs of muscle!!

It's possible... and BFL works.... Those that have more fat to lose -

it will take longer for the muscles to appear...

>

> decided to meet with a personal trainer today and I was told that

> you can't build muscle and burn fat at the same time. Supposedly,

> this is why people with a lot of fat have a hard time losing fat in

> the beginning on the body for life program. I told him to give me

> until next week to decide if I want to work with him permanently.

> What do all of you think about this? Here is an article on this

>

> http://www.diet-reviews-zone.com/Article197.htm

[Guest guest]

While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first starting

BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can burn

fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the beginning.

The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

addressing your specific issues when he said that.

Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it becomes

more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Gaining

muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and losing fat

requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig zagging.

Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the muscle.

Stasia

[Guest guest]

Thank you Joni, Stasia, , and Debra for answering this

question for me. Can you tell me if any of you started out with more

than 40% fat or over 75 lbs to lose? What were all of your starting

body fat levels?

>

> While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first starting

> BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can burn

> fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the beginning.

>

> The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

> addressing your specific issues when he said that.

>

> Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it

becomes

> more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Gaining

> muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and losing fat

> requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig zagging.

>

> Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the muscle.

>

> Stasia

[Guest guest]

i started BFL last year at 320 lbs and have lost 46 lbs. i have never tracked my

body fat very well, but i know when i started it was over 50%. this program

works whether you have 100 lbs to lose or 10 lbs to lose. i know for a fact that

i have both lost fat and gained muscle. i have gone down almost 5 sizes and

although there is still a layer (ok probably many layers) of fat over them, i

have some serious muscles! i am convinced that those muscles are what continues

to enable me burn fat consistently shedding inches and pounds. if you have a

long way to go, you will have to be patient, but it works if you work it. as

others have said, get a trainer that is aligned with your program and your

goals. any other support you need is available here. good luck!

beth

innner_beauty036 <no_reply > wrote:

Thank you Joni, Stasia, , and Debra for answering this

question for me. Can you tell me if any of you started out with more

than 40% fat or over 75 lbs to lose? What were all of your starting

body fat levels?

>

> While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first starting

> BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can burn

> fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the beginning.

>

> The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

> addressing your specific issues when he said that.

>

> Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it

becomes

> more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Gaining

> muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and losing fat

> requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig zagging.

>

> Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the muscle.

>

> Stasia

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth

This is the first time I've seen you in the group.

You've been holding out on all of us. Congrats!

Do you have before/after photos?

> >

> > While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first starting

> > BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can

burn

> > fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the

beginning.

> >

> > The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

> > addressing your specific issues when he said that.

> >

> > Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it

> becomes

> > more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

Gaining

> > muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and losing

fat

> > requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig

zagging.

> >

> > Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the

muscle.

> >

> > Stasia

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks, karen. yeah, have to admit i've been lurking here for quite some time

now. the posts have really been able to help me keep going and " troubleshoot "

when i'm stalled. i'd like to start posting more, so thanks for the

encouragement. i've been kind of " shy " until now, but this is the first time

i've seen someone reach out who seems to have a lot of weight to lose like me.

sometimes it's overwhelming to think i have 100 more lbs to lose until i reach

my goal, but i know i will get there with this way of life. BFL has changed my

life. i have some before and after pics but only with clothes on. i'm not daring

enough to take them in a swimsuit yet. i'm actually coming up on completing

another 12 weeks soon, so i will post the ones i take then.

karenmotherofthree <no_reply > wrote:

Hi Beth

This is the first time I've seen you in the group.

You've been holding out on all of us. Congrats!

Do you have before/after photos?

> >

> > While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first starting

> > BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can

burn

> > fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the

beginning.

> >

> > The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

> > addressing your specific issues when he said that.

> >

> > Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it

> becomes

> > more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

Gaining

> > muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and losing

fat

> > requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig

zagging.

> >

> > Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the

muscle.

> >

> > Stasia

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you Joni, Stasia, , and Debra for answering this

> question for me. Can you tell me if any of you started out with more

> than 40% fat or over 75 lbs to lose? What were all of your starting

> body fat levels?

For whatever reason I don't have my numbers from my original

challenge. I had a lot less to lose then than now though. In 2003, I

started at 185.5 lbs and 36.7% BF (calculated over at

www.biofitness.com). I'm only 5'2 " so that's very heavy for me. I

don't think I've ever given 100% but I lost 15lbs and dropped to 30.8%

BF. I actually kept going for 2 more weeks according to what I've got

on my spreadsheet before I quit. Now I'm back. Heavier than ever.

Trying very hard not to make excuses.

debra

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

It's difficult for me to sit online everyday, but when I do, I

usually lurk also, so don't feel bad about that.

I am definitely interested in hearing about your progress along the

way. I admire women who are able to lose a large percentage of fat.

It's a true testament to their character and mental strength. Finding

the courage to follow your training despite how overwhelming it all

seems is something to be proud of. After losing the pounds I'm sure

it feels like you can move mountains.

Good luck to you Beth and keep everyone posted on your progress.

> > >

> > > While you gain muscle faster than you lose fat when first

starting

> > > BFL, there won't be any other time in your program that you can

> burn

> > > fat and gain muscle at the same time easier than at the

> beginning.

> > >

> > > The trainer was most likely speaking out of context and wasn't

> > > addressing your specific issues when he said that.

> > >

> > > Once most of the fat is shed and you become really fit then it

> > becomes

> > > more difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

> Gaining

> > > muscle requires a calorie surplus(albeit a small one) and

losing

> fat

> > > requires a deficit. However, it can be done by calorie zig

> zagging.

> > >

> > > Lose the fat first though, then concentrate on building the

> muscle.

> > >

> > > Stasia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Debra!! You're a shorty. I need to download a

spreadsheet program to maintain my progress. I'm really sloppy about

that. I think the lack of organization is my problem.

> >

> > Thank you Joni, Stasia, , and Debra for answering this

> > question for me. Can you tell me if any of you started out with

more

> > than 40% fat or over 75 lbs to lose? What were all of your

starting

> > body fat levels?

>

>