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HI All,

I wanted to start a question for this group that Dr. Johansen raised when he was writing about saving money on office supplies.

One of the hardest things to do is keep expenses low. Dr. Johansen says overhead is typically 75-80% of gross. I'd like to poll this group to see if that is about right for everyone, or if there are different numbers.

I know when I started I had negative income for a couple of years, but then took off in the third year. I've been trying to keep the overhead to 60-70%. So I'm wondering what some other docs experience might be.

Thanks for the input.

Christian Mathisen, DC, CCWFN

3654 S Pacific Hwy

Medford, OR 97501

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My history over last 10 years.

(I define overhead as ALL business-related expense, not including doctor

salary...in other words, everything that is not profit, is overhead.)

Highest %overhead year: 75% of gross receipts

(this occurred early in my practice, when I was still paying off a 30k/year

practice-purchase loan and was also a member of a practice-mgt. group too)

Lowest % overhead year: 50% of gross receipts

#1 Expense= (Employees, total work hours approx 1.5 FTE)= 37% of overhead

#2 Expense= Rent = 18% of total overhead

Sadly, there are not that many good studies regarding this (the various magazine

surveys are not scientific) and the recent , large, scientific, NBCE survey did

not ask income/expense questions.

But, from the 'scientific' (high number of respondents to a large, randomized

survey) ACA data that I have seen (although nearly 10 years old) the avg.

overhead was about 60% approx. if I recall correctly. It has likely gone up some

since then.

>

> HI All,

> I wanted to start a question for this group that Dr. Johansen raised when he

was writing about saving money on office supplies.

>

> One of the hardest things to do is keep expenses low. Dr. Johansen says

overhead is typically 75-80% of gross. I'd like to poll this group to see if

that is about right for everyone, or if there are different numbers.

>

> I know when I started I had negative income for a couple of years, but then

took off in the third year. I've been trying to keep the overhead to 60-70%. So

I'm wondering what some other docs experience might be.

>

> Thanks for the input.

>

> Christian Mathisen, DC, CCWFN

> 3654 S Pacific Hwy

> Medford, OR 97501

> cmathdc@...

>

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