Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. exterior mold counts. My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. You have to suppose that some of the mold from outside is getting in that housre. Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There was no stachy either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) but I for some reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the stachy mycotoxins. anyone else had issues like these??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne easily so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a landlord get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? My experience is that if one wants to hold someone accountable for damage done to them by a building, the owner of the building will hire a company to show the difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor levels are much higher than the indoor levels so the building " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into this strategy over and over since becoming ill from a moldy building. Anyone else have similar situation or know about this strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between the outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this is from your workplace I would get an independent industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for your own satisfaction. Christi > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > exterior mold counts. > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. > You have to > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > getting in that housre. > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > was no stachy > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > but I for some > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > stachy mycotoxins. > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 christi--I am the homeowner. I had the walls drilled finally. No stachy. We are trying to move. I have developed chemical sensitivity which makes it difficult to move. Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: I have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne easily so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a landlord get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? My experience is that if one wants to hold someone accountable for damage done to them by a building, the owner of the building will hire a company to show the difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor levels are much higher than the indoor levels so the building " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into this strategy over and over since becoming ill from a moldy building. Anyone else have similar situation or know about this strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between the outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this is from your workplace I would get an independent industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for your own satisfaction. Christi > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > exterior mold counts. > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. > You have to > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > getting in that housre. > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > was no stachy > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > but I for some > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > stachy mycotoxins. > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Any basement? I would bet if you got an industrial hygenist to come in and explore further would would find stachy behind or under something. If you are in CA I can give you a good one if you like.It is extremely hard to move when one has MCS, but you must find a safe place to live. The consequences of staying in a home with stachy could be huge for you...IMO Maybe stay with family or friends or even a hotel. The chemical injury group has housing opportunities ...you could share for awhile. What other molds were found? Were the levels significant? Stachy is a dangerous one but there are also others that can do a lot of damage to the body systems as well. IMO. Do you have a good doctor already who will start treating you? I can give to some doctors names if you need them. I got MCS from a building and it took a year or more to get any help from the medical world. By then my MCS was really severe and the toxins were causing all kinds of issues...breathing, joint pain, muscle pain, skin rashes, sinus infections, etc. It's important to get the right care now IMO. We are all here to support you emotionally, and help you get appropriate resources for you to make it through this trial. Christi Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: christi--I am the homeowner. I had the walls drilled finally. No stachy. We are trying to move. I have developed chemical sensitivity which makes it difficult to move. Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: I have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne easily so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a landlord get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? My experience is that if one wants to hold someone accountable for damage done to them by a building, the owner of the building will hire a company to show the difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor levels are much higher than the indoor levels so the building " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into this strategy over and over since becoming ill from a moldy building. Anyone else have similar situation or know about this strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between the outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this is from your workplace I would get an independent industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for your own satisfaction. Christi > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > exterior mold counts. > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. > You have to > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > getting in that housre. > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > was no stachy > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > but I for some > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > stachy mycotoxins. > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 " mccallalton " wrote: > > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. exterior mold counts. My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. You have to suppose that some of the mold from outside is getting in that housre. Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There was no stachy either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) but I for some reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the stachy mycotoxins. anyone else had issues like these??? > I could show you a " sick region " surrounding a compost farm in Nevada. Everyone that is downwind for half a mile is showing signs. The owner of the compost farm is turning over operation to a manager because he is becoming too ill to work. The doctors can't figure out what is wrong with him and are calling it " stress " . None of the people who are also noticing effects in that zone can figure it out. All except for two of my friends, who listened to me when I asked them to correlate their feelings of depression and lethargy to a specific wind direction - the direction from that farm! So whenever they felt like Hell, they would go outside and check the wind - and they would ask each other " How do you feel. When did it start. When did this wind start blowing? " and made a positive association between their health and the wind direction. They moved, and said they felt " hits " from their possessions for a full year after moving. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 christi--there is a crawl space. no one has wanted to go down there so it has not been tested. I can't stay with family or friends. they all use chemicals and have cats plus they are all the way across country. there was aspergillus, cladiosporum, dreschlera, etc. found so far. no dreschlera outside though. it's all wierd. Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: Any basement? I would bet if you got an industrial hygenist to come in and explore further would would find stachy behind or under something. If you are in CA I can give you a good one if you like.It is extremely hard to move when one has MCS, but you must find a safe place to live. The consequences of staying in a home with stachy could be huge for you...IMO Maybe stay with family or friends or even a hotel. The chemical injury group has housing opportunities ...you could share for awhile. What other molds were found? Were the levels significant? Stachy is a dangerous one but there are also others that can do a lot of damage to the body systems as well. IMO. Do you have a good doctor already who will start treating you? I can give to some doctors names if you need them. I got MCS from a building and it took a year or more to get any help from the medical world. By then my MCS was really severe and the toxins were causing all kinds of issues...breathing, joint pain, muscle pain, skin rashes, sinus infections, etc. It's important to get the right care now IMO. We are all here to support you emotionally, and help you get appropriate resources for you to make it through this trial. Christi Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: christi--I am the homeowner. I had the walls drilled finally. No stachy. We are trying to move. I have developed chemical sensitivity which makes it difficult to move. Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: I have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne easily so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a landlord get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? My experience is that if one wants to hold someone accountable for damage done to them by a building, the owner of the building will hire a company to show the difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor levels are much higher than the indoor levels so the building " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into this strategy over and over since becoming ill from a moldy building. Anyone else have similar situation or know about this strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between the outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this is from your workplace I would get an independent industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for your own satisfaction. Christi > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > exterior mold counts. > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was 7000. > You have to > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > getting in that housre. > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > was no stachy > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > but I for some > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > stachy mycotoxins. > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Hi Abbie, Crawl space? Ummmm...Stachy could be there but the important thing is to get yourself somewhere else asap.You know what your body tested positively for so you don't want any further health damage. If you already have MCS you need a safe place to start healing. Are you working? Were you reacting at all there? If so maybe stachy was there. If there are no friends/family around how about a hotel? I have stayed in Country Inn and Suites in many different states and haven't had any issues with them and I had extreme MCS when I went out of state to go to doctors. You can also call ahead and ask them not to use harsh cleaning products and if you get a room you react to you can go to the front desk and ask to try another one. I've done that successfully at different hotel chains. You are going to learn to get bold really fast because of your exposures. You are going to have to speak up in every setting to tell others what exactly you need.I am not that assertive by nature but I have learned that a person with mold exposure cannot be timid. I have high levels of cladiosporum and aspergillus on my IgG bloodwork which were found in my contaminated building. These molds can do a lot of damage IMO> My body systems are very compromised and I feel like I'll never be whole again but at least I got out of the situation and practice avoidance. Otherwise I think I might be hospitalized full time by now. The point is...make a plan...step one...figure out how to get out. Step two...don't take anything with you to avoid cross contamination ...step three...get with an experience mold /fungal doctor asap and establish a protocol to heal. Step four...remember it can get better once you are exposing yourself. Write me offline if you need some resources like doctors... HUGS! Christi > Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: > Any basement? I would bet if you got an > industrial hygenist to come in and explore further > would would find stachy behind or under something. > If you are in CA I can give you a good one if you > like.It is extremely hard to move when one has MCS, > but you must find a safe place to live. The > consequences of staying in a home with stachy could > be huge for you...IMO Maybe stay with family or > friends or even a hotel. The chemical injury > group has housing opportunities ...you could share > for awhile. > What other molds were found? Were the levels > significant? Stachy is a dangerous one but there are > also others that can do a lot of damage to the body > systems as well. IMO. > > Do you have a good doctor already who will start > treating you? I can give to some doctors names if > you need them. I got MCS from a building and it took > a year or more to get any help from the medical > world. By then my MCS was really severe and the > toxins were causing all kinds of issues...breathing, > joint pain, muscle pain, skin rashes, sinus > infections, etc. It's important to get the right > care now IMO. > We are all here to support you emotionally, and help > you get appropriate resources for you to make it > through this trial. > Christi > > Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > christi--I am the homeowner. I had the walls drilled > finally. No stachy. We are trying to move. I have > developed chemical sensitivity which makes it > difficult to move. > > Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: I > have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy > mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne > easily > so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why > > four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a > landlord > get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? > > My experience is that if one wants to hold someone > accountable for damage done to them by a building, > the > owner of the building will hire a company to show > the > difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in > the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor > levels > are much higher than the indoor levels so the > building > " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into > this strategy over and over since becoming ill from > a > moldy building. > > Anyone else have similar situation or know about > this > strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends > have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between > the > outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of > molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they > present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT > identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in > HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " > > Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great > industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. > Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this > is > from your workplace I would get an independent > industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for > your own satisfaction. > Christi > > > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > > exterior mold counts. > > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was > 7000. > > You have to > > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > > getting in that housre. > > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > > was no stachy > > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > > but I for some > > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > > stachy mycotoxins. > > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 thanks. no I was not working. I have lived here 12 years. I will look into country inns and suites Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: Hi Abbie, Crawl space? Ummmm...Stachy could be there but the important thing is to get yourself somewhere else asap.You know what your body tested positively for so you don't want any further health damage. If you already have MCS you need a safe place to start healing. Are you working? Were you reacting at all there? If so maybe stachy was there. If there are no friends/family around how about a hotel? I have stayed in Country Inn and Suites in many different states and haven't had any issues with them and I had extreme MCS when I went out of state to go to doctors. You can also call ahead and ask them not to use harsh cleaning products and if you get a room you react to you can go to the front desk and ask to try another one. I've done that successfully at different hotel chains. You are going to learn to get bold really fast because of your exposures. You are going to have to speak up in every setting to tell others what exactly you need.I am not that assertive by nature but I have learned that a person with mold exposure cannot be timid. I have high levels of cladiosporum and aspergillus on my IgG bloodwork which were found in my contaminated building. These molds can do a lot of damage IMO> My body systems are very compromised and I feel like I'll never be whole again but at least I got out of the situation and practice avoidance. Otherwise I think I might be hospitalized full time by now. The point is...make a plan...step one...figure out how to get out. Step two...don't take anything with you to avoid cross contamination ...step three...get with an experience mold /fungal doctor asap and establish a protocol to heal. Step four...remember it can get better once you are exposing yourself. Write me offline if you need some resources like doctors... HUGS! Christi > Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: > Any basement? I would bet if you got an > industrial hygenist to come in and explore further > would would find stachy behind or under something. > If you are in CA I can give you a good one if you > like.It is extremely hard to move when one has MCS, > but you must find a safe place to live. The > consequences of staying in a home with stachy could > be huge for you...IMO Maybe stay with family or > friends or even a hotel. The chemical injury > group has housing opportunities ...you could share > for awhile. > What other molds were found? Were the levels > significant? Stachy is a dangerous one but there are > also others that can do a lot of damage to the body > systems as well. IMO. > > Do you have a good doctor already who will start > treating you? I can give to some doctors names if > you need them. I got MCS from a building and it took > a year or more to get any help from the medical > world. By then my MCS was really severe and the > toxins were causing all kinds of issues...breathing, > joint pain, muscle pain, skin rashes, sinus > infections, etc. It's important to get the right > care now IMO. > We are all here to support you emotionally, and help > you get appropriate resources for you to make it > through this trial. > Christi > > Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> wrote: > christi--I am the homeowner. I had the walls drilled > finally. No stachy. We are trying to move. I have > developed chemical sensitivity which makes it > difficult to move. > > Christi Howarth <salzberglver3@...> wrote: I > have huge quanities of antibodies to the stachy > mycotoxins as well. Stachy doesn't go airborne > easily > so what kind of tests were these? Air samplings? Why > > four tests? Are you renting the house? Did a > landlord > get a company to test indoor/outdoor molds? > > My experience is that if one wants to hold someone > accountable for damage done to them by a building, > the > owner of the building will hire a company to show > the > difference between outdoor/indoor mold samplings in > the air and then also " prove " that the outdoor > levels > are much higher than the indoor levels so the > building > " can't be the reason " why one is ill. I've run into > this strategy over and over since becoming ill from > a > moldy building. > > Anyone else have similar situation or know about > this > strategy? My doctors and industrial hygenist friends > have said... " Doesn't matter the difference between > the > outdoor and indoor levels....matters what KIND of > molds are in the indoor levels and the levels they > present to the individuals. Air samplings do NOT > identify all molds hidden behind walls, ceilings in > HVAC systems,skylights, etc. " > > Are you the homeowner? If so I would hire a great > industrial hygenist to do a thorough investigation. > Not only air samplings. If you are renting or this > is > from your workplace I would get an independent > industrial hygenist to do a private evaluation for > your own satisfaction. > Christi > > > I need to ask a question regarding interior vs. > > exterior mold counts. > > My interior count was 1200 but outside it was > 7000. > > You have to > > suppose that some of the mold from outside is > > getting in that housre. > > Anyone else have very high outdoor counts??? There > > was no stachy > > either inside or out (after 4 professional tests) > > but I for some > > reason have antibodies is huge quantities to the > > stachy mycotoxins. > > anyone else had issues like these??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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