RE: The New Health Care System and Oregon

[Guest guest]

Can you expand on what this means ?

Please:

‘During that annual

meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which means

that the system must cover chiropractic

services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52

AM

Oregondcs

Subject:

" The New Health Care System and Oregon "

House Bill 2009 which was passed during the 2009 regular

session is consistent with the new federal health care bill that calls for

health insurance for all Oregonians/Americans. Good, bad, or ugly

it's coming an your only trade organization is look out for you the Oregon

Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly Chief Legal Council for the ACA attended the

recent annual meeting of the " National Association of Chiropractic

Attorneys. " During that annual meeting the association passed a

resolution applauding the historic federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which means

that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. This

association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of state

associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type our

enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

" non-descrimination provision. " So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American

Chiropractic Association. If there were ever a time the profession

needed you support it is now if you are not a member of your only state trade

organization please join the Oregon Chiropractic Association today call me at

541-231-4528 and I will facilitate your application to the association.

If you are not a member of your national trade organization please join

the ACA today as well.

Yes, I know any time the federal

government gets involved things tend to go South. However, unlike

the other universal health care system around the world who continue to

apply the " medical model " of health care which is actually " disease

care " and who do not have a level playing field for alternative

health care providers. This new US system will focus on true health

and wellness and provide a level playing field for non-medical

providers and as a consequence significant cost reductions while

improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a profession are

either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the other big

players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state level and the

ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that dinner

table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone wheel we

are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern Saboe Questions call me any time

541-231-4528

[Guest guest]

They must cover our services…the AMA and others in organized

medicine are actively attempting to get this portion of the law removed. Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron

Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

Can you

expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During that annual

meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs

dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: " The New Health Care System and Oregon "

House Bill 2009 which

was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with the new federal

health care bill that calls for health insurance for all Oregonians/Americans.

Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade organization is look out for

you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly Chief

Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of the

" National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys. " During that

annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine.

This association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of

state associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type

our enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

" non-descrimination provision. " So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon

Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American Chiropractic

Association. If there were

ever a time the profession needed you support it is now if you are not a

member of your only state trade organization please join the Oregon

Chiropractic Association today call me at 541-231-4528 and I will facilitate

your application to the association. If you are not a member of

your national trade organization please join the ACA today as well.

Yes, I

know any time the federal government gets involved things tend to

go South. However, unlike the other universal health care system

around the world who continue to apply the " medical model " of

health care which is actually " disease care " and who do not have

a level playing field for alternative health care providers. This new US

system will focus on true health and wellness and provide a level playing field

for non-medical providers and as a consequence significant cost

reductions while improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a

profession are either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the

other big players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state

level and the ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that

dinner table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone

wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The

Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern

Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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So they must pay for those services that are

in our scope of practice? Or, if an MD adjusts and charges $56 / adjustment at one

level they must also pay us the same?

s. fuchs dc

From: vsaboe

[mailto:vsaboe@...]

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:48

PM

Sharron Fuchs;

Oregondcs

Subject: RE:

" The New Health Care System and Oregon "

They must cover our

services…the AMA and others in organized medicine are actively attempting

to get this portion of the law removed. Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07

AM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE:

" The New Health Care System and Oregon "

Can you expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During that annual meeting the

association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which means

that the system must cover chiropractic

services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52

AM

Oregondcs

Subject:

" The New Health Care System and Oregon "

House Bill

2009 which was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with the

new federal health care bill that calls for health insurance for all

Oregonians/Americans. Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade

organization is look out for you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly

Chief Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of the

" National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys. " During that

annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal " Non-discrimination Provision " language (Section 2706) which means

that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. This

association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of state

associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type our

enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

" non-descrimination provision. " So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American

Chiropractic Association. If there were ever a time the profession

needed you support it is now if you are not a member of your only state trade

organization please join the Oregon Chiropractic Association today call me at

541-231-4528 and I will facilitate your application to the association.

If you are not a member of your national trade organization please join

the ACA today as well.

Yes, I know any time the federal government gets involved things

tend to go South. However, unlike the other universal health care

system around the world who continue to apply the " medical

model " of health care which is actually " disease care "

and who do not have a level playing field for alternative health care

providers. This new US

system will focus on true health and wellness and provide a level playing field

for non-medical providers and as a consequence significant cost

reductions while improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a

profession are either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the

other big players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state

level and the ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that

dinner table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone

wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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Yes, Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron

Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:51 PM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

So they

must pay for those services that are in our scope of practice? Or, if an MD

adjusts and charges $56 / adjustment at one level they must also pay us the

same?

s. fuchs dc

From: vsaboe

[mailto:vsaboe@...]

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:48 PM

Sharron Fuchs; Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and Oregon "

They

must cover our services…the AMA and others in organized medicine are actively

attempting to get this portion of the law removed. Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and Oregon "

Can you

expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During that annual

meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs

dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: " The New Health Care System and Oregon "

House Bill 2009 which

was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with the new federal

health care bill that calls for health insurance for all Oregonians/Americans.

Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade organization is look out for

you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly Chief

Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of the

" National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys. " During that

annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine.

This association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of

state associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type

our enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

" non-descrimination provision. " So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon

Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American Chiropractic

Association. If there were

ever a time the profession needed you support it is now if you are not a

member of your only state trade organization please join the Oregon

Chiropractic Association today call me at 541-231-4528 and I will facilitate

your application to the association. If you are not a member of

your national trade organization please join the ACA today as well.

Yes, I

know any time the federal government gets involved things tend to

go South. However, unlike the other universal health care system

around the world who continue to apply the " medical model " of

health care which is actually " disease care " and who do not have

a level playing field for alternative health care providers. This new US

system will focus on true health and wellness and provide a level playing field

for non-medical providers and as a consequence significant cost

reductions while improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a

profession are either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the

other big players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state

level and the ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that

dinner table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone

wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The

Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern

Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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Well then... how can Saif reduce our fees then??????Dr. A Caughlin DC CAC155 NW 1st Ave Day, Or. 97845 office 541-575-1063 fax 541-575-5554sharronf@...; Oregondcs From: vsaboe@...Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:13:20 -0700Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

Yes, Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron

Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:51 PM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and

Oregon"

So they

must pay for those services that are in our scope of practice? Or, if an MD

adjusts and charges $56 / adjustment at one level they must also pay us the

same?

s. fuchs dc

From: vsaboe

[mailto:vsaboecomcast (DOT) net]

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:48 PM

Sharron Fuchs; Oregondcs

Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

They

must cover our services…the AMA and others in organized medicine are actively

attempting to get this portion of the law removed. Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

Can you

expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During that annual

meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal "Non-discrimination

Provision" language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs

dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

House Bill 2009 which

was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with the new federal

health care bill that calls for health insurance for all Oregonians/Americans.

Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade organization is look out for

you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly Chief

Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of the

"National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys." During that

annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal "Non-discrimination

Provision" language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine.

This association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of

state associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type

our enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

"non-descrimination provision." So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon

Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American Chiropractic

Association. If there were

ever a time the profession needed you support it is now if you are not a

member of your only state trade organization please join the Oregon

Chiropractic Association today call me at 541-231-4528 and I will facilitate

your application to the association. If you are not a member of

your national trade organization please join the ACA today as well.

Yes, I

know any time the federal government gets involved things tend to

go South. However, unlike the other universal health care system

around the world who continue to apply the "medical model" of

health care which is actually "disease care" and who do not have

a level playing field for alternative health care providers. This new US

system will focus on true health and wellness and provide a level playing field

for non-medical providers and as a consequence significant cost

reductions while improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a

profession are either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the

other big players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state

level and the ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that

dinner table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone

wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The

Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern

Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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The universal health care system is for general health care and

doesn’t cover Workers’ Compensation nor Personal Injury Protection (Auto PIP)

which are different animals….Vern SAboe

From: Charlie Caughlin

[mailto:caughlindrc@...]

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:52 PM

Dr Vern Saboe DC; sharronf@...;

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

Well then... how can Saif reduce our fees

then??????

Dr.

A Caughlin DC CAC

155

NW 1st Ave

Day, Or. 97845

office

541-575-1063

fax 541-575-5554

To:

sharronf@...; Oregondcs

From: vsaboe@...

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:13:20 -0700

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and Oregon "

Yes, Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:51 PM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

So they must pay for those services that are in our scope of

practice? Or, if an MD adjusts and charges $56 / adjustment at one level they

must also pay us the same?

s. fuchs dc

From: vsaboe

[mailto:vsaboe@...]

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:48 PM

Sharron Fuchs; Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

They must cover our services…the AMA and others in organized

medicine are actively attempting to get this portion of the law removed.

Vern Saboe

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron Fuchs

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: RE: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

Can you expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During

that annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs dc

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vern Saboe

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52 AM

Oregondcs

Subject: " The New Health Care System and

Oregon "

House

Bill 2009 which was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with

the new federal health care bill that calls for health insurance for all

Oregonians/Americans. Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade

organization is look out for you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr.

Tom Daly Chief Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of

the " National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys. " During

that annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic

federal " Non-discrimination

Provision " language (Section 2706) which

means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine.

This association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of

state associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type

our enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the

" non-descrimination provision. " So who will counter them, who

will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine

who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level

the Oregon

Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American Chiropractic

Association. If there were

ever a time the profession needed you support it is now if you are not a

member of your only state trade organization please join the Oregon

Chiropractic Association today call me at 541-231-4528 and I will facilitate

your application to the association. If you are not a member of

your national trade organization please join the ACA today as well.

Yes, I know any time the federal government gets involved things

tend to go South. However, unlike the other universal health care

system around the world who continue to apply the " medical

model " of health care which is actually " disease care "

and who do not have a level playing field for alternative health care

providers. This new US system will focus on true health and wellness and

provide a level playing field for non-medical providers and as a

consequence significant cost reductions while improving outcomes....hey it

could work! We as a profession are either at the dinner table with

the other stakeholders the other big players or we will be on

the menu the OCA on the state level and the ACA nationally is making

sure we are sitting at that dinner table.....please join today, add your

shoulder to that big stone wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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So discrimination by provider type in worker's compensation and personal injury claims is ok? Obviously not, but weird that the law doesn't apply to everything. Ann Goldeen

RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

Yes, Vern Saboe

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron FuchsSent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:51 PMOregondcs Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

So they must pay for those services that are in our scope of practice? Or, if an MD adjusts and charges $56 / adjustment at one level they must also pay us the same?

s. fuchs dc

From: vsaboe [mailto:vsaboecomcast (DOT) net] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:48 PMSharron Fuchs; Oregondcs Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

They must cover our services…the AMA and others in organized medicine are actively attempting to get this portion of the law removed. Vern Saboe

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharron FuchsSent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:07 AMOregondcs Subject: RE: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

Can you expand on what this means ? Please:

‘During that annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal "Non-discrimination Provision" language (Section 2706) which means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. ‘

s. fuchs dc

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Vern SaboeSent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:52 AMOregondcs Subject: "The New Health Care System and Oregon"

House Bill 2009 which was passed during the 2009 regular session is consistent with the new federal health care bill that calls for health insurance for all Oregonians/Americans. Good, bad, or ugly it's coming an your only trade organization is look out for you the Oregon Chiropractic Association.

Mr. Tom Daly Chief Legal Council for the ACA attended the recent annual meeting of the "National Association of Chiropractic Attorneys." During that annual meeting the association passed a resolution applauding the historic federal "Non-discrimination Provision" language (Section 2706) which means that the system must cover chiropractic services equal to medicine. This association of chiropractic attorney plan to stimulate maximum effort of state associations in support of the ACA and this provision. As I type our enemies are collectively gathering on the hill in an attempt to remove the "non-descrimination provision." So who will counter them, who will go to war against them, who will lead the fight against organized medicine who has supressed this profession for so long?? Well on the state level the Oregon Chiropractic Association and on the federal level the American Chiropractic Association. If there were ever a time the profession needed you support it is now if you are not a member of your only state trade organization please join the Oregon Chiropractic Association today call me at 541-231-4528 and I will facilitate your application to the association. If you are not a member of your national trade organization please join the ACA today as well.

Yes, I know any time the federal government gets involved things tend to go South. However, unlike the other universal health care system around the world who continue to apply the "medical model" of health care which is actually "disease care" and who do not have a level playing field for alternative health care providers. This new US system will focus on true health and wellness and provide a level playing field for non-medical providers and as a consequence significant cost reductions while improving outcomes....hey it could work! We as a profession are either at the dinner table with the other stakeholders the other big players or we will be on the menu the OCA on the state level and the ACA nationally is making sure we are sitting at that dinner table.....please join today, add your shoulder to that big stone wheel we are nearing the top of the mountain.....

To The Continued Good Fight!!!!

Vern Saboe Questions call me any time 541-231-4528

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