Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 the more I read about lymph node glands and how they play a role in immunity,and are supposed to rid our body of toxins, and because I was dignosed as haveing fibromyalgia by a doctor pokeing on these 18 sensative spots, which are actually lymph node glands tells me that fibromyalgia is actually failure of your lymph node system to rid your body from toxins. just him poking on these glands caused bad flare up of the soreness and stiffness, ackes and pain. just like while in the mold when my lymph node glands were working over time to rid toxins inhaled. and like everything else conserning our mold illness, many conditions have several names. and it would than reason that failure of our lymph nodes and immunity system than leads to these toxins scattering to multiple parts of our body, effecting many organs, while its being overloaded(during exposure)the lymph nodes can only handle so much, letting many toxins escape. besides the two glands in my lower back, the left lymph node under my arm was always swelling and was very painful, and others often would swell and cause pain. this also makes me think that each of us may have different ability's of fighting off toxin exposure depending on how well our lymph nodes and immunity system works, before, during and after exposure. does it make sence that the damage to lympolic system while exposed would help deturmine how well your body would detox afterwards? would be interesting to know if T-cell toxins our body produces are more able to fight some toxins better than others.as I'm sure they are. wondering if T- mycotoxin exposure would be a toxin that our T-cells cant fight and do the most damage, as it seems that stachy and fusarium may play a bigger role in organ damage and aspergillus/pincillium effects mostly the lungs. I'm just baseing this last part on my own experience in 2 different homes with mold. T-mycotoxins did a lot of damage for exposure for almost 8 years,including hisderictomy, CFS,fibromyalgia, but my lungs and vision went haywire in 4 months at second home where I lost a lot of breathing compasity, got caterax in left eye and double vision in right eye, also I believe this home is where I got MCS. no dought that exposure in first home had me set up for second homes damage but almost 8 years exposure to mainly stachy in first home did not have near the effect on my lungs and vision as 4 months in the second home did, and toward the last few years in the first home my memory wasn't the greatest, but it went total haywire in the second home. its strange because that first home made me so stiff and sore, which I link to fibro(lymph node glands) and at the second home there was a little relief in that area. but when I than moved back into my first home(still not knowing toxic molds were there) after the second home exposure, this pain came back full forse and so did all the symptoms with this home., and they were much worse than 6 months before at this home. was that because the home had set vacant for 6 months, closed up, or because of the damage the 2nd. home had on my system. the dirrehia in the first home started with first symptoms and later became bloody, at the second home that got much worse, back in the first home it even got worse. first home was causeing sinus problems and burning to nose throat and eyes, at the second home they constantly dripped, back in the first home again they burned again, also much worse than when there before. I see this as defenete proof of deferent effects caused by different mycotoxin exposure and was also why I saw myself and the different homes when I first read about mycotoxins and theri effects at mold- help.org weather bacteria played a role or not, it may very well have the bats getting into walls and crapping may have played a role in the first home, would have took a while for it to build up to that, but missing flashing on the roof let them in and that produces another type of fungi. the fact that when I last tried to wear mascara on my eyelashes and it made my eyes water and burn makes me fell that it had some effects, mascara is made from bat crap, right? the second home had a uncapped sewer pipe under house which gaged me until it was fixed. nothing changed in my symptoms after it was fixed, so I dont know if it was a factor or not, but I did stay there again with everything shut off after a insurance adjuster sprayed something on the mold coming threw the new sheet rock and told me he'd killed it. and got very ill again in one night. and what is causeing this pain and swollen presure across my chest right under my breasts, it bothers me to wear a bra. is this some kind of fluid build up or what? I know others have talked about this same felling, like something setting on your chest, has anyone fiqured out what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 -lol's, how the mind wonders when phone rings off the hook. what I was trying to say is that maybe when dignosed with fibromyalgia, but test is negitive, its really damage to your lymph nodes. and toxins damage your immune system and you dont have to be immune compromised in the first place to get systematic infections, thats caused from when toxins first inter your lymph system. this is when symptoms began. than, the whole time your exposed its causeing your lymph system to work like crazy and sysptoms get worse the longer exposed and damages your immune system in the process. and everywhere these toxins go in your body that get past T-cells than cause further damage. some peoples lymph nodes have ability to detox better than others. so , some people get out and their lymph system still works and that part and the symptoms it caused slowly gets better, but severe damage to the lymph system I believe I read is non reversable, thus would leave others with a hard time detoxing wouldn't it? -- In , " who " <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > > the more I read about lymph node glands and how they play a role in > immunity,and are supposed to rid our body of toxins, and because I was > dignosed as haveing fibromyalgia by a doctor pokeing on these 18 > sensative spots, which are actually lymph node glands tells me that > fibromyalgia is actually failure of your lymph node system to rid your > body from toxins. just him poking on these glands caused bad flare up > of the soreness and stiffness, ackes and pain. just like while in the > mold when my lymph node glands were working over time to rid toxins > inhaled. > and like everything else conserning our mold illness, many conditions > have several names. and it would than reason that failure of our lymph > nodes and immunity system than leads to these toxins scattering to > multiple parts of our body, effecting many organs, while its being > overloaded(during exposure)the lymph nodes can only handle so much, > letting many toxins escape. besides the two glands in my lower back, > the left lymph node under my arm was always swelling and was very > painful, and others often would swell and cause pain. > this also makes me think that each of us may have different ability's > of fighting off toxin exposure depending on how well our lymph nodes > and immunity system works, before, during and after exposure. > does it make sence that the damage to lympolic system while exposed > would help deturmine how well your body would detox afterwards? > would be interesting to know if T-cell toxins our body produces are > more able to fight some toxins better than others.as I'm sure they are. > wondering if T- mycotoxin exposure would be a toxin that our T- cells > cant fight and do the most damage, as it seems that stachy and fusarium > may play a bigger role in organ damage and aspergillus/pincillium > effects mostly the lungs. I'm just baseing this last part on my own > experience in 2 different homes with mold. T-mycotoxins did a lot of > damage for exposure for almost 8 years,including hisderictomy, > CFS,fibromyalgia, but my lungs and vision went haywire in 4 months at > second home where I lost a lot of breathing compasity, got caterax in > left eye and double vision in right eye, also I believe this home is > where I got MCS. no dought that exposure in first home had me set up > for second homes damage but almost 8 years exposure to mainly stachy in > first home did not have near the effect on my lungs and vision as 4 > months in the second home did, and toward the last few years in the > first home my memory wasn't the greatest, but it went total haywire in > the second home. its strange because that first home made me so stiff > and sore, which I link to fibro(lymph node glands) and at the second > home there was a little relief in that area. but when I than moved back > into my first home(still not knowing toxic molds were there) after the > second home exposure, this pain came back full forse and so did all the > symptoms with this home., and they were much worse than 6 months before > at this home. was that because the home had set vacant for 6 months, > closed up, or because of the damage the 2nd. home had on my system. > the dirrehia in the first home started with first symptoms and later > became bloody, at the second home that got much worse, back in the > first home it even got worse. > first home was causeing sinus problems and burning to nose throat and > eyes, at the second home they constantly dripped, back in the first > home again they burned again, also much worse than when there before. > I see this as defenete proof of deferent effects caused by different > mycotoxin exposure and was also why I saw myself and the different > homes when I first read about mycotoxins and theri effects at mold- > help.org weather bacteria played a role or not, it may very well have > the bats getting into walls and crapping may have played a role in the > first home, would have took a while for it to build up to that, but > missing flashing on the roof let them in and that produces another type > of fungi. the fact that when I last tried to wear mascara on my > eyelashes and it made my eyes water and burn makes me fell that it had > some effects, mascara is made from bat crap, right? > the second home had a uncapped sewer pipe under house which gaged me > until it was fixed. nothing changed in my symptoms after it was fixed, > so I dont know if it was a factor or not, but I did stay there again > with everything shut off after a insurance adjuster sprayed something > on the mold coming threw the new sheet rock and told me he'd killed it. > and got very ill again in one night. and what is causeing this pain > and swollen presure across my chest right under my breasts, it bothers > me to wear a bra. > is this some kind of fluid build up or what? I know others have talked > about this same felling, like something setting on your chest, has > anyone fiqured out what it is? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 -heres another question I have. has anyone been dignosed with fibromyalgia by a blood test? because I'm reading that there is no such thing and pressure on these 18 spots is the test. so why would a mayo clinic doctor tell me he's sure i have fibromyalgia, than the next day say he's putting it in report as positable fibromyalgia because test came back negitive. I just read that there is no blood test for fibromyalgia. maybe some day when I fell like throwing a big hissy fit, I'll talk about my week and a half visit to the mayo clinic. -- In , " who " <jeaninem660@...> wrote: > > -lol's, how the mind wonders when phone rings off the hook. what I > was trying to say is that maybe when dignosed with fibromyalgia, but > test is negitive, its really damage to your lymph nodes. and toxins > damage your immune system and you dont have to be immune compromised > in the first place to get systematic infections, thats caused from > when toxins first inter your lymph system. this is when symptoms > began. than, the whole time your exposed its causeing your lymph > system to work like crazy and sysptoms get worse the longer exposed > and damages your immune system in the process. and everywhere these > toxins go in your body that get past T-cells than cause further > damage. some peoples lymph nodes have ability to detox better than > others. so , some people get out and their lymph system still works > and that part and the symptoms it caused slowly gets better, but > severe damage to the lymph system I believe I read is non reversable, > thus would leave others with a hard time detoxing wouldn't > it? > > -- In , " who " <jeaninem660@> wrote: > > > > the more I read about lymph node glands and how they play a role in > > immunity,and are supposed to rid our body of toxins, and because I > was > > dignosed as haveing fibromyalgia by a doctor pokeing on these 18 > > sensative spots, which are actually lymph node glands tells me that > > fibromyalgia is actually failure of your lymph node system to rid > your > > body from toxins. just him poking on these glands caused bad flare > up > > of the soreness and stiffness, ackes and pain. just like while in > the > > mold when my lymph node glands were working over time to rid toxins > > inhaled. > > and like everything else conserning our mold illness, many > conditions > > have several names. and it would than reason that failure of our > lymph > > nodes and immunity system than leads to these toxins scattering to > > multiple parts of our body, effecting many organs, while its being > > overloaded(during exposure)the lymph nodes can only handle so much, > > letting many toxins escape. besides the two glands in my lower > back, > > the left lymph node under my arm was always swelling and was very > > painful, and others often would swell and cause pain. > > this also makes me think that each of us may have different > ability's > > of fighting off toxin exposure depending on how well our lymph > nodes > > and immunity system works, before, during and after exposure. > > does it make sence that the damage to lympolic system while exposed > > would help deturmine how well your body would detox afterwards? > > would be interesting to know if T-cell toxins our body produces are > > more able to fight some toxins better than others.as I'm sure they > are. > > wondering if T- mycotoxin exposure would be a toxin that our T- > cells > > cant fight and do the most damage, as it seems that stachy and > fusarium > > may play a bigger role in organ damage and aspergillus/pincillium > > effects mostly the lungs. I'm just baseing this last part on my own > > experience in 2 different homes with mold. T-mycotoxins did a lot > of > > damage for exposure for almost 8 years,including hisderictomy, > > CFS,fibromyalgia, but my lungs and vision went haywire in 4 months > at > > second home where I lost a lot of breathing compasity, got caterax > in > > left eye and double vision in right eye, also I believe this home > is > > where I got MCS. no dought that exposure in first home had me set > up > > for second homes damage but almost 8 years exposure to mainly > stachy in > > first home did not have near the effect on my lungs and vision as 4 > > months in the second home did, and toward the last few years in the > > first home my memory wasn't the greatest, but it went total haywire > in > > the second home. its strange because that first home made me so > stiff > > and sore, which I link to fibro(lymph node glands) and at the > second > > home there was a little relief in that area. but when I than moved > back > > into my first home(still not knowing toxic molds were there) after > the > > second home exposure, this pain came back full forse and so did all > the > > symptoms with this home., and they were much worse than 6 months > before > > at this home. was that because the home had set vacant for 6 > months, > > closed up, or because of the damage the 2nd. home had on my system. > > the dirrehia in the first home started with first symptoms and > later > > became bloody, at the second home that got much worse, back in the > > first home it even got worse. > > first home was causeing sinus problems and burning to nose throat > and > > eyes, at the second home they constantly dripped, back in the first > > home again they burned again, also much worse than when there > before. > > I see this as defenete proof of deferent effects caused by different > > mycotoxin exposure and was also why I saw myself and the different > > homes when I first read about mycotoxins and theri effects at mold- > > help.org weather bacteria played a role or not, it may very well > have > > the bats getting into walls and crapping may have played a role in > the > > first home, would have took a while for it to build up to that, but > > missing flashing on the roof let them in and that produces another > type > > of fungi. the fact that when I last tried to wear mascara on my > > eyelashes and it made my eyes water and burn makes me fell that it > had > > some effects, mascara is made from bat crap, right? > > the second home had a uncapped sewer pipe under house which gaged > me > > until it was fixed. nothing changed in my symptoms after it was > fixed, > > so I dont know if it was a factor or not, but I did stay there > again > > with everything shut off after a insurance adjuster sprayed > something > > on the mold coming threw the new sheet rock and told me he'd killed > it. > > and got very ill again in one night. and what is causeing this > pain > > and swollen presure across my chest right under my breasts, it > bothers > > me to wear a bra. > > is this some kind of fluid build up or what? I know others have > talked > > about this same felling, like something setting on your chest, has > > anyone fiqured out what it is? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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