Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Can you tell us where this document came from? s. fuchs dc From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of A. Simpson Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:09 AM Subject: the subluxation question OR DCs, Controversial, or what? http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf C Simpson Beaverton, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 The Subluxation reveals itself through many manifestations. It is an entity to the degree that we are trained to recognize its presence, extent of influence in the overall function of the body, and causes. It is as much evidence of dysfunction as dysfunction itself. Therefore, as doctors we are charged with the responsibility of identifying the cause of the subluxation as well as correcting it. I believe that we would make excellent PCP’s if we just use the training we spent 8 years getting. Most current PCP’s certainly don’t set the bar that high to begin with. Just my 2 1/2 cents worth Domby D.C. DIBAKPO Box 1108Scappoose, Oregon, USA97056phone 503 543-3195 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010  ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Re: the subluxation question [1 Attachment] While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices. The more germane question seems to be "how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively?" I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article "The Nurses in your Future." http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both "experts at relieving pain with our hands" as well as "educators/teachers" of innate health. It's not easy. Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness. I've attached what I came up with. It's in the pipeline at the O now. But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well. Sears, DC, IAYT 1218 NW 21st Ave Portland, Oregon 97209 v: 503-225-0255 f: 503-525-6902 www.docbones.com On May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote: OR DCs, Controversial, or what? http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf C Simpson Beaverton, OR While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices. The more germane question seems to be "how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively?"I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article "The Nurses in your Future." http:// www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/ the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both "experts at relieving pain with our hands" as well as "educators/teachers" of innate health. It's not easy. Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness.I've attached what I came up with. It's in the pipeline at the O now. But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well. Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote:>> OR DCs,>> Controversial, or what?>> http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf>> C Simpson> Beaverton, OR>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think anyone who has been in practice for awhile understands how powerful the reduction of a subluxation can be. Further, as I mentioned, I think it's our brand and it's rightfully well and broadly accepted: if you have body pain, a chiropractor can probably help you out! I'm less concerned about the empiricism of that reduction, although I feel data can be improved with more specific instrumentation along more specific lines. It's the PR aspects I think we should really be talking about here. We'd be cutting our PR throats to abandon the subluxation at this point.It's tying the known (subluxation reduction) to the less known (accessing innate) that is of importance in this PR market. Is the chiropractic contribution to wellness simply a matter of getting patients into the office regularly for adjustments? Or is it a matter of providing clinical experiences that foster a patient's capacity to access their own innate healing? Is wellness solely a passive care experience or also an active care process? In other words, does chiropractic wellness include the mind and spirit of a person? Does the subluxation reduction include the mind and spirit of a person?Moving up the hill a bit further,STS, we've never seen the numbers of patients we deserve because the story we've told has never been big enough. That big story, IMHO, is both evidence-based and intuitive, physical and pioneering (as patient's enter personal territory they have never explored before). If we can excite patients with the possibilities of accessing their own innate capacities for self-healing, we will move much closer to being the positive influence that we deserve. Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn May 26, 2010, at 2:27 PM, AboWoman@... wrote: , you bring a very good idea to light. I would say that capitalizing on this ' Shift toward Wellness' is a great slogan idea for our state association. Promoting the profession with a PR campaign using this new model (new to the public, new to legislators) could do 2 things. Bring the long standing tradition of chiropractic to help patients understand their role in healing, and bring chiropractic to the front and center of a movement that's already 'shifting consciousness' in the media. Minga Guerrero DC ps I sent this to Dan Ferrante as a copy just in case there is incentive to use an advertising slogan! In a message dated 5/26/2010 1:41:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dm.bonesmac writes: You may be reading more into what I wrote than was there, a valid point of criticism. But, I never said anything about wellness being new to the profession, instead tying wellness care into care of the frame as a less understood part of the profession. The title I used, "A Shift toward Wellness," only infers a new understanding of health as personal responsibility in this new health care era, in coordination with a chiropractic partner/helper/physician/teacher. Sears, DC, IAYT 1218 NW 21st Ave Portland, Oregon 97209 v: 503-225-0255 f: 503-525-6902 www.docbones.com On May 26, 2010, at 1:25 PM, joe medlin wrote:  Whoa, ! New emphasis on Welness???? Chiropractic has been teaching wellness for 100 years man. Chiropractic is a natural branch of health care that puts emphasis on spinal function as it relates to back pain, health and well being. Without drugs or Surgery chiropractors emphasize good diet, exercise and periodic spinal adjustments for optimal health and wellness. ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Re: the subluxation question [1 Attachment] While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices. The more germane question seems to be "how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively?" I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article "The Nurses in your Future." http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both "experts at relieving pain with our hands" as well as "educators/teachers" of innate health. It's not easy. Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness. I've attached what I came up with. It's in the pipeline at the O now. But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well. Sears, DC, IAYT 1218 NW 21st Ave Portland, Oregon 97209 v: 503-225-0255 f: 503-525-6902 www.docbones.com On May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote: OR DCs, Controversial, or what? http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf C Simpson Beaverton, OR While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices. The more germane question seems to be "how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively?"I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article "The Nurses in your Future." http:// www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/ the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both "experts at relieving pain with our hands" as well as "educators/teachers" of innate health. It's not easy. Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness.I've attached what I came up with. It's in the pipeline at the O now. But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well. Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote:>> OR DCs,>> Controversial, or what?>> http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf>> C Simpson> Beaverton, OR>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 This just seems silly. If you read the definition of Vertebral Subluxation Complex (the 5 -ologies), it is one of the BEST descriptions of what it is we are detecting and adjusting. The subluxation term has such a history of disagreement, that sadly, many new chiropractic colleges and practitioners are shying away from the term and embracing other terms such as Seaman's "joint complex dysfunction" or Palmer College's "manipulative lesion". Silliness! We are all working on the same stuff! In fact, physical therapists, massage therapists and accupuncturists are working on components of the same thing too... they just don't know it. Most physical body problems are the result of stress from trauma or a lack of motion (in addition to thought patterns, nutrition, and environmental toxins). The body's adaptation to those stressors is summed up as the Vertebral Subluxation Complex. This just seems so fundamental when you understand the physiology of stress adaptation. VSC is an adaptation that leads to decreased function and a lower quality of life, just like blocked coronary arteries are a stress adaptation leading to a decreased quality of life. VSC is directly linked to chronic release of stress hormones which is the cause of ALL chronic illness! We have an incredible role in health care by being the world experts in VSC detection and correction and/or management. Improving VSC (in addition to lifestyle change) reduces the chronic release of stress hormones and plays a vital role in reversing and preventing chronic illness. Keep your heads up Oregon DCs... do not doubt the power of your adjustments... you help save lives every day! Jamey Dyson, DC On May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote:OR DCs, Controversial, or what? http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf C SimpsonBeaverton, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Joe,  <<Chiropractic is a natural branch of health care that puts emphasis on spinal function as it relates to back pain, health and well being. Without drugs or Surgery chiropractors emphasize good diet, exercise and periodic spinal adjustments for optimal health and wellness.>> Nicely said.  C Simpson On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Sears <dm.bones@...> wrote: You may be reading more into what I wrote than was there, a valid point of criticism.  But, I never said anything about wellness being new to the profession, instead tying wellness care into care of the frame as a less understood part of the profession.  The title I used, " A Shift toward Wellness, " only infers a new understanding of health as personal responsibility in this new health care era, in coordination with a chiropractic partner/helper/physician/teacher. Sears, DC, IAYT 1218 NW 21st Ave Portland, Oregon 97209 v: 503-225-0255 f: 503-525-6902 www.docbones.com On May 26, 2010, at 1:25 PM, joe medlin wrote:   Whoa, !  New emphasis on Welness???? Chiropractic has been teaching wellness for 100 years man.  Chiropractic is a natural branch of health care that puts emphasis on spinal function as it relates to back pain, health and well being. Without drugs or Surgery chiropractors emphasize good diet, exercise and periodic spinal adjustments for optimal health and wellness.   ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Re: the subluxation question [1 Attachment] While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices.  The more germane question seems to be " how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively? " I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article " The Nurses in your Future. "  http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html  I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both " experts at relieving pain with our hands " as well as " educators/teachers " of innate health.  It's not easy.  Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness.  I've attached what I came up with.  It's in the pipeline at the O now.  But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well. Sears, DC, IAYT 1218 NW 21st Ave Portland, Oregon 97209 v: 503-225-0255 f: 503-525-6902 www.docbones.com On May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote:  OR DCs,  Controversial, or what?  http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf  C Simpson Beaverton, OR  While chiropractic academia in Europe may see the VSC as anachronistic, it remains our profession's most valuable brand in the health care marketplace, regardless of the changes made in clinical practices. The more germane question seems to be " how to we capitalize on the brand without tying clinical practice to the VSC exclusively? " I submitted a response to the Oregonian editorial board yesterday after reading the article " The Nurses in your Future. "  http:// www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/05/ the_nurse_in_your_health_care.html  I wrestled with how to describe the profession today as both " experts at relieving pain with our hands " as well as " educators/teachers " of innate health. It's not easy. Most of us are struggling with this new branding, or new emphasis on wellness.I've attached what I came up with. It's in the pipeline at the O now. But, I would encourage others to make an effort to respond to the nurse's article as well.  Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote: >> OR DCs,>> Controversial, or what?>> http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf >> C Simpson> Beaverton, OR>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Remember all, The negatory publicity the term subluxation gets - to me - is just anothe way to create doubt about what we do. All the allopaths and our detractrors have to do is plant doubt ....that by itself is enough to stop some from attending our approach to care. What WE need to do is NOT feed into it. We know what we are. We know how powerful what we do is. Those who attend us know how powerful what we do is ............. THAT is the level we need to promote. We nned to ignore this 'doubt' filled garbage, get a good marketing campaign going (which requires money...are YOU a member?) and keep on doing what we do. With the insurance conundrums going on now, people are beginning to lift their heads and talk/think about health...about 'maybe I can do something to help myself be healthy' ..............THAT's the area we need to focus on. With the coming changes, seems to me we stand right in the middle of the road for the all those will will need new doctors over the next five years. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com CC: To: csimpson@...From: drjdyson1@...Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:21:19 -0700Subject: Re: the subluxation question This just seems silly. If you read the definition of Vertebral Subluxation Complex (the 5 -ologies), it is one of the BEST descriptions of what it is we are detecting and adjusting. The subluxation term has such a history of disagreement, that sadly, many new chiropractic colleges and practitioners are shying away from the term and embracing other terms such as Seaman's "joint complex dysfunction" or Palmer College's "manipulative lesion". Silliness! We are all working on the same stuff! In fact, physical therapists, massage therapists and accupuncturists are working on components of the same thing too... they just don't know it. Most physical body problems are the result of stress from trauma or a lack of motion (in addition to thought patterns, nutrition, and environmental toxins). The body's adaptation to those stressors is summed up as the Vertebral Subluxation Complex. This just seems so fundamental when you understand the physiology of stress adaptation. VSC is an adaptation that leads to decreased function and a lower quality of life, just like blocked coronary arteries are a stress adaptation leading to a decreased quality of life. VSC is directly linked to chronic release of stress hormones which is the cause of ALL chronic illness! We have an incredible role in health care by being the world experts in VSC detection and correction and/or management. Improving VSC (in addition to lifestyle change) reduces the chronic release of stress hormones and plays a vital role in reversing and preventing chronic illness. Keep your heads up Oregon DCs... do not doubt the power of your adjustments... you help save lives every day! Jamey Dyson, DC On May 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, A. Simpson wrote: OR DCs, Controversial, or what? http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/page_file/C-120510-11.pdf C Simpson Beaverton, OR The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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