Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 --- Poh Yee Ooi-Holmes <pyoh@...> wrote: > Hello all, > > When I was growing up in Malaysia, we used to have > what we call a " musang " > visiting our garden when the fruit trees are in > season. The males would > excrect the most fragrant pandanus (screw pine > leaves) smell urine. > > You would know that they have been, from the urine > excrection they leave > behind. Up until recently, I was not aware that the > musang is the malaysian > civet. If I had known I would have collected the > urine myself! > Very interesting Poh Yee! It must have been so beautiful in the garden where you grew up. I wonder if it was the civet's urine that smelled good or if the civet was marking it's territory with the glandular secretion that is used in perfumery. Wish I could have been there to experience it too! > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 >snip > wrote >Very interesting Poh Yee! It must have been so >beautiful in the garden where you grew up. I wonder >if it was the civet's urine that smelled good or if >the civet was marking it's territory with the >glandular secretion that is used in perfumery. Wish I >could have been there to experience it too! > > > , I think it is probably marking it's territory, like you said. As child, I oblivious to everything. I remember asking my grandmother what the sweet glorious smell was and she told me that it was the musang's urine. We used a lot of pandanus for cooking and baking but you dont get the smell until the leaves are crushed. I know I dont have an expert's nose, when it comes to NP, but the civet's excretion is really something wonderful. It's a pity our human urine smells so awful especailly when one has eaten asparagus. At first I thought I had a urinary infection (the onset ) until my husband said that his smelled awful too! Malaysia is a beautiful country. Wonderful climate for growing too. We get cobras visiting the garden too, a visitor I rather not have. Somehow they always seem to visit when the chickens are about ready for slaugtering. We always end up with a dead chicken or 2 everytime. Poh Yee _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gr\ atitude & FORM=WLMTAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Poh Yee Ooi-Holmes <pyoh@...> wrote: >snip > wrote It must have been so >beautiful in the garden where you grew up. I wonder >if it was the civet's urine that smelled good or if >the civet was marking it's territory with the >glandular secretion that is used in perfumery. Wish I >could have been there to experience it too! > > > , I think it is probably marking it's territory, like you said. As child, I oblivious to everything. I remember asking my grandmother what the sweet glorious smell was and she told me that it was the musang's urine. We used a lot of pandanus for cooking and baking but you dont get the smell until the leaves are crushed. I know I dont have an expert's nose, when it comes to NP, but the civet's excretion is really something wonderful. Malaysia is a beautiful country. Wonderful climate for growing too. We get Poh Yee Hi Poh Yee What a simply wonderful experience ....... is there anyone in Malaysia that you are in contact still that you could try and obtain a sample :-) !!!! Would they take it in good stead :-) or think you're barking mad! Lovely story to come back to... Janita http://www.hayspace.co.uk --------------------------------- Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 >snip > wrote >Hi Poh Yee > > What a simply wonderful experience ....... is there anyone in Malaysia >that you are in contact still that you could try and obtain a sample :-) >!!!! Would they take it in good stead :-) or think you're barking mad! > > Lovely story to come back to... > Janita Janita, Welcome back. In fact I was just thinking about what you said. My family are still in Malaysia and my brother-in-law is a manager of a palm oil plantation. I will ask him if he knows of any locals who may know of this. I guess to collect the urine, one would have to trap one, collect the urine and then release them. Being a wildlife lover, I would never dream of harming them. I saw a wildlife conservation project on line about conservation of the malaysian civet cats. http://www.carnivoreproject.org/photos.htm I know I have an inexperience nose but I kid you not, the urine/excretion smells really fragrant. He may be shocked when I tell him that the excretion is used in perfumery. The local chinese would eat the civet if they smell the urine of one which has been foraging in the garden for fruits. They forage during the night but leave their tell tale signs. Even before my family moved from the house that I grew up in, I remember that I have not seen the musang for quite a while due to the destruction of their habitats and new houses coming up. If I had only known.... I also need to ask my family if the civet faeces smells aromatic as well when I phone home next time. regards, Poh Yee _________________________________________________________________ Valentine’s Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095 & tcode=wl\ mtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 >snip >Ruth wrote > > Poh Yee > >Hi Poh Yee, >In a bit of a rush, welcome back, I missed you for a while, it's great >to see you posting again! But here's a thought maybe you could just >tincure the fragrant leaves sprayed with the excretion. Let me becuse >know I want to smell some. Sounds wonderful. > >Ruth Thanks Ruth. The times I have been home I have never seen one. There has been a lot of de-forestation in my hometown to make way for new houses. Such ashame. Tincturing the leaves or wiping the leaves down with alcohol is certainly a good idea if they leave their tell tale signs. I just phoned home. Spoke with my sister. When I told her about the musang's urine for perfumery and her main concern was hygiene. Many civets in China were drowned when they were suspected of carrying the SARS virus. I was most surprised when she said that a perfume is made up of many many different essences. I asked if my brother-in-law knows of any musang foraging in the palm oil plantation. Apparently there are many monkeys and wildboars there. I have asked my sister to pass my message on to him to find out if they forage their and to collect me a sample of the urine if can be done humanely. If I can get it I will certainly send you a sample. Sometime ago I was trying to get a Pandanus plant to grow for cooking purposes. The leaves when pounded gives a natural green colouring and aromatically flavours the food. I have to look into this again and the aroma is identically to that of the musang's excretion. The pandanus is used in the very famous Malaysian " Nasi Lemak " (coconut nut rice) The rice is then wrapped in banana leaves which imparts it's own very subtle fragrant. I can just eat a few packets now for breakfast!!! regards, Poh Yee _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_do\ nation & FORM=WLMTAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 --- Poh Yee Ooi-Holmes <pyoh@...> wrote: > > I have asked my sister to pass my message on to him > to find out if they > forage their and to collect me a sample of the urine > if can be done > humanely. If I can get it I will certainly send you > a sample. > > Sometime ago I was trying to get a Pandanus plant to > grow for cooking > purposes. The leaves when pounded gives a natural > green colouring and > aromatically flavours the food. I have to look into > this again and the aroma > is identically to that of the musang's excretion. > The pandanus is used in > the very famous Malaysian " Nasi Lemak " (coconut nut > rice) The rice is then > wrapped in banana leaves which imparts it's own very > subtle fragrant. I can > just eat a few packets now for breakfast!!! Poh Yee, Yumm! I think I'm coming to your house for breakfast! It's only four hours drive from here! If you love pandanus, you should order a sample of Anya's Fairchild perfume. It opens with a strong pandanus note which fades quickly but then comes and goes in a more subtle form. Also, you can order Kewda eo which is pandanus I believe. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 >snip > wrote > Poh Yee, > Yumm! I think I'm coming to your house for breakfast! > It's only four hours drive from here! > If you love pandanus, you should order a sample of > Anya's Fairchild perfume. It opens with a strong > pandanus note which fades quickly but then comes and > goes in a more subtle form. Also, you can order Kewda > eo which is pandanus I believe. > > > I think I will. Thanks for letting me know. Kewda EO? Where do I get this from? BTW I found a place to purchase a pandanus plant. There are many varieties. The one used for cooking is P. amaryllifolius. The vendor also sells the leaves if anyone is interested, kaffir lime etc. I can post his details on Thurs as I guess it would be some sort of AD. I am interested in getting the plant mainly for cooking but who knows whwhatelse I would be using it for. Poh Yee ps: you are making me hungry since I have no pandan leaves or coconut for making nasi lemak. In the past I have made it without the pandan leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 --- ooiholmes <pyoh@...> wrote: > I think I will. Thanks for letting me know. Kewda > EO? Where do I get > this from? > I know Liberty Naturals has kewda but I haven't tried it and it is expensive so maybe you should try a sample first. If I get some, I will send a sample to you. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. http://autos./new_cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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