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- I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this guy clean

things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate your lease for

unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's reaction can get worse

with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the book and read it after you leave.

Good for you for figuring this mystery out so quickly!

-Haley

Gil Vice <gilvice@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Congratulations on being so quick to recognize your home's problem. Many

people suffer for years before getting to that point.

Your landlord's response is far too common, trivializing a major problem.

Mold under tile might be simply from excess humidity during showering, but

is not likely, particularly if there is no other visible mold. A leak in a

drain line is possible, seeping under the tile and into the walls (hidden

mold). Look for a bad trap under the sink. Also look at the ceiling below

the bathroom for water stains. If there is no ceiling, look on the basement

floor or for standing water in a crawl space. The water source is quite

possibly a bad wax ring under the toilet. This allows waste water to escape

with every flush. Often, people put bathroom caulk all the way around a

toilet, trapping overflow water underneath, forcing it under the tiles. (Its

generally not a good idea to caulk all the way around, so when a leak does

occur, it becomes obvious before mold and rot problems occur.)

Such a problem also releases E. coli and other bacteria into your living

space as well as growing mold and rotting the floor. Your landlord should

show more interest just to protect his investment in his property. If he

doesn't, move. Get a statement from your health department concerning

unhealthy living conditions, and you should be able to get your entire

security deposit back.

Good luck.

Gil

Date: Sun Jun 4, 2006 6:51 am (PDT)

From: " " green_eyed_indian_princess@...

Subject: Help!

Hi there! I am hoping someone can help me.

At the beginning of May I moved into a new (for us- not " new " ) home.

About 2 weeks after we moved my son developed severe asthma and has

been on a nebulizer every 4 hours since. My son does not have this

problem at school or other homes.

Last week I finally got sick of the severe mold smell in the bathroom.

I pulled off one of the sticky tiles on the floor and to my horror

there was a black colored mold all over the wood. I called the landlord

and he told me just to put bleach on it and there was nothing he could

do. He also told me to run a fan in the bathroom. None of this is

working. What can I do?

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Make sure that you didn't sign a wavair for mold in the apartment. When we had

to leave our home and everything inside we went into a furnished apt and they

made us sign a wavier stating they werne't responsable for any mold.

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Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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Yes, these waivers are now in almost every residential lease where I live

too. Nothing like free choice, is there... they should be illegal.

You sign away your rights, or you have to buy a home ($600,000 for a small

condo) or live far far (2 hrs commute each way) away..

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seems to be the one here giving the important advice. This is exactly what

happened to me. I did not know these things either at the time and even went as

far as agreeing to try to do the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I

thought this was for sure the only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of

course I knew nothing about mold then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one

has asthma and skin problems, I have had numerous problems to long to list. I

had a professional test so I did end up finding out what I could take and not

take. I decided only to take my computer and I thoroughly cleaned and

disinfected it, as stated this proved to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I

knew that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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I think that is exactly what happened. When I pulled the tiles up was the same

day the asthma attacks started. I know I disturbed it. :( My son was wheezing

and coughing all night. He is now on a breathing treatment every 4 hours.

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: Haley <myhaze@...>

wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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Thanks for the heads up. I will look through the lease and make sure it isn't in

there. He never said anything to me about it.

renee <rzornrn@...> wrote: Make sure that you didn't sign a wavair for

mold in the apartment. When we had to leave our home and everything inside we

went into a furnished apt and they made us sign a wavier stating they werne't

responsable for any mold.

[] Re: moldy rental

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

-

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I wish you well, our son also has Aspergers and the mold really through us for a

loop. Best of luck.

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Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

-

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Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is autistic and

my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very frustrated and

have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near the bathroom or

even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my landlord told me to.

He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I

knew that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

-

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OK - then you're going to need to research whatever kind of assistance may be

available to you - Is there a Legal Aid program somewhere - they may know if

there is public assistance of some kind to get you set up someplace safe. Are

you affiliated with a church or support group that can lend a hand for moving

and might have connections for a safe place to live? Unfortunately, moving can

be a very hard part - esp. when one feels yucky. But you've GOT to do it.

Reach out in your community however you can - get the health dept. to come in

and then have a reporter write about your situation - sometimes that can bring

in cash from people who want to help or someone to fix your car or other

necessities. Channel your frustration into creativity - get to a place where

you can see humor in everything going wrong at once... it's certainly one thing

we all have in common here to survive and improve.

-Haley

<green_eyed_indian_princess@...> wrote:

Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is

autistic and my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very

frustrated and have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near

the bathroom or even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my

landlord told me to. He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do

now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I knew

that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

-

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Good Luck with Legal aid and Mold this is sad but good luck her best bet is her

Neighbors in it a apartment complex all must come together. the landlord will

evict you and no one will do a thing sorry to tell you this I live on HUD

Housing Voucher 15 years of this hell of a nightmare. hit the Beach as much as

you can with your son and Pray you can fine a kind heart out there I will also

pray for you and your son if the Landlord had to pay the Medical bills they

would take care of their places.

This is something my Judge said in Court I'm still fighting this issue.

WETHEPEOPLE

Elvira

Re: [] Re: moldy rental

OK - then you're going to need to research whatever kind of assistance may be

available to you - Is there a Legal Aid program somewhere - they may know if

there is public assistance of some kind to get you set up someplace safe. Are

you affiliated with a church or support group that can lend a hand for moving

and might have connections for a safe place to live? Unfortunately, moving can

be a very hard part - esp. when one feels yucky. But you've GOT to do it. Reach

out in your community however you can - get the health dept. to come in and then

have a reporter write about your situation - sometimes that can bring in cash

from people who want to help or someone to fix your car or other necessities.

Channel your frustration into creativity - get to a place where you can see

humor in everything going wrong at once... it's certainly one thing we all have

in common here to survive and improve.

-Haley

<green_eyed_indian_princess@...> wrote:

Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is autistic and

my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very frustrated and

have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near the bathroom or

even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my landlord told me to.

He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I knew

that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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Just keep in mind your health and your sons health. Even if you can spend most

of your time out doors is better than nothing. If you can contact the local

news to see if they would want to do a story about you and your son and things

you are going through.

Re: [] Re: moldy rental

OK - then you're going to need to research whatever kind of assistance may be

available to you - Is there a Legal Aid program somewhere - they may know if

there is public assistance of some kind to get you set up someplace safe. Are

you affiliated with a church or support group that can lend a hand for moving

and might have connections for a safe place to live? Unfortunately, moving can

be a very hard part - esp. when one feels yucky. But you've GOT to do it. Reach

out in your community however you can - get the health dept. to come in and then

have a reporter write about your situation - sometimes that can bring in cash

from people who want to help or someone to fix your car or other necessities.

Channel your frustration into creativity - get to a place where you can see

humor in everything going wrong at once... it's certainly one thing we all have

in common here to survive and improve.

-Haley

<green_eyed_indian_princess@...> wrote:

Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is autistic and

my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very frustrated and

have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near the bathroom or

even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my landlord told me to.

He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I knew

that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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You have a made-for-TV story with a disabled son and a car that doesn't go...

We all know it's hard from our own experiences: but you gotta keep getting

creative - it's going to take many, many tries before you feel like your luck

changes, but the alternative is to sit back and let it make you both sick - that

would be defeat.

-Haley

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

legal aid did not return my calls, the health dept, and other state

angencys did nothing, but just lately a couple contacted me that

bought a moldy home here and got ill, they were told about me by a

state worker that i had just happened to talk to that morning, nice

lady, going beyond her job, that doesn't happen often. all you can do

is try, I think some things are changeing because these people did

get some advice from one of the state agencys but I cant remember

who. they told them of a place to go get some test done, but when I

called them they said I already had more medical testing than they

offer and acted like they mainly didn't want to have to be called

into a court case. and they did ask about that right off. I'd had

this problem before from medical establishments that dont want to get

involved so even if they do have a clue, sometimes they just play

like they dont know so you wont envolve them in a court case. this

aint right, but it happens. you have to either prove this first or

find the few that know something about it and care. a few lucky ones

get the news papers or tv stations to take notice, each state seems

to be a little different so it never hurts to

try.

> >

> > - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make

this

> guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to

vacate

> your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your

son's

> reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

> book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

> mystery out so quickly!

> >

> > -Haley

>

> And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as

this

> can release a vast increase in spores which would make the

situation a

> lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

> Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable

person

> using Hazardous Materials protocols.

> (not your landlord with a fan)

> -

>

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So true if we had only known about this site before or during or ordeal it would

of helped. The health dept. didn't have a clue, the medical people just left

us. It is so nice to be able to even vent and maybe help someone else in need.

[] Re: moldy rental

legal aid did not return my calls, the health dept, and other state

angencys did nothing, but just lately a couple contacted me that

bought a moldy home here and got ill, they were told about me by a

state worker that i had just happened to talk to that morning, nice

lady, going beyond her job, that doesn't happen often. all you can do

is try, I think some things are changeing because these people did

get some advice from one of the state agencys but I cant remember

who. they told them of a place to go get some test done, but when I

called them they said I already had more medical testing than they

offer and acted like they mainly didn't want to have to be called

into a court case. and they did ask about that right off. I'd had

this problem before from medical establishments that dont want to get

involved so even if they do have a clue, sometimes they just play

like they dont know so you wont envolve them in a court case. this

aint right, but it happens. you have to either prove this first or

find the few that know something about it and care. a few lucky ones

get the news papers or tv stations to take notice, each state seems

to be a little different so it never hurts to

try.

> >

> > - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make

this

> guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to

vacate

> your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your

son's

> reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

> book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

> mystery out so quickly!

> >

> > -Haley

>

> And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as

this

> can release a vast increase in spores which would make the

situation a

> lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

> Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable

person

> using Hazardous Materials protocols.

> (not your landlord with a fan)

> -

>

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I don't understand how there can be so many of us that have lived this nightmare

and the laws aren't changing. How do we get people to listen?

Re: [] Re: moldy rental

OK - then you're going to need to research whatever kind of assistance may be

available to you - Is there a Legal Aid program somewhere - they may know if

there is public assistance of some kind to get you set up someplace safe. Are

you affiliated with a church or support group that can lend a hand for moving

and might have connections for a safe place to live? Unfortunately, moving can

be a very hard part - esp. when one feels yucky. But you've GOT to do it. Reach

out in your community however you can - get the health dept. to come in and then

have a reporter write about your situation - sometimes that can bring in cash

from people who want to help or someone to fix your car or other necessities.

Channel your frustration into creativity - get to a place where you can see

humor in everything going wrong at once... it's certainly one thing we all have

in common here to survive and improve.

-Haley

<green_eyed_indian_princess@...> wrote:

Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is autistic and

my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very frustrated and

have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near the bathroom or

even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my landlord told me to.

He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I knew

that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

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At some point, there will be a critical mass of

undeniable research/information... each of us is

taking it one step further along. For now, folks

are in deep denial, as I suspect most of us were

until we came to terms with what was happening to

us.

If I hadn't had allthese weird syptoms happen to

me, I never would have understood what killed my

neighbor.

-Haley

--- renee <rzornrn@...> wrote:

> I don't understand how there can be so many of

> us that have lived this nightmare and the laws

> aren't changing. How do we get people to

> listen?

> Re: [] Re: moldy rental

>

> OK - then you're going to need to research

> whatever kind of assistance may be available to

> you - Is there a Legal Aid program somewhere -

> they may know if there is public assistance of

> some kind to get you set up someplace safe. Are

> you affiliated with a church or support group

> that can lend a hand for moving and might have

> connections for a safe place to live?

> Unfortunately, moving can be a very hard part -

> esp. when one feels yucky. But you've GOT to do

> it. Reach out in your community however you can

> - get the health dept. to come in and then have

> a reporter write about your situation -

> sometimes that can bring in cash from people

> who want to help or someone to fix your car or

> other necessities. Channel your frustration

> into creativity - get to a place where you can

> see humor in everything going wrong at once...

> it's certainly one thing we all have in common

> here to survive and improve.

>

> -Haley

>

> <green_eyed_indian_princess@...>

> wrote:

> Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to

> start over on. My son is autistic and my car

> isn't running so I can't even leave the house.

> I am very frustrated and have begun to feel

> nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near

> the bathroom or even go into the bathroom. I

> was running a fan because my landlord told me

> to. He also told me to spray it with bleach.

> What should I do now?

>

> Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...>

> wrote: seems to be the one here giving the

> important advice. This is exactly what happened

> to me. I did not know these things either at

> the time and even went as far as agreeing to

> try to do the remediation myself to help out

> the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

> only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of

> course I knew nothing about mold then. Long

> story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma

> and skin problems, I have had numerous problems

> to long to list. I had a professional test so I

> did end up finding out what I could take and

> not take. I decided only to take my computer

> and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as

> stated this proved to be a mistake.

> The health department will not do anything.

> If you get luck as I did you can have the

> county inspector come out and issue code

> violations although I am certain this will be

> to no avail as well but good for you in the

> future. Above and beyond all, NO FANS and DO

> NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

> send to the landlord but if you are able to

> move do so now. Try not to take anything

> especially paper wood or anything porous, I

> suggest sealing everything and putting it in a

> storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for

> remediation of your things. Only my personal

> opinion and because I was able to, I would take

> it all as a loss and start over fresh,

> especially if there are health problems

> involved, but again this is only my opinion

> based on my own experience. READ LOTS... This

> was a great place to start and so is

> mold-help.org. If only I knew that then..

> Hope that helps.

> Chris...

>

> erikmoldwarrior

> <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

> Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

> >

> > - I'd call the health department to

> see if they'll make this

> guy clean things up for the future. But see

> what allows you to vacate

> your lease for unsafe conditions & get out

> while you can. Your son's

> reaction can get worse with time. Go to

> moldwarriors.com, buy the

> book and read it after you leave. Good for

> you for figuring this

> mystery out so quickly!

> >

> > -Haley

>

> And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the

> mold colony, as this

> can release a vast increase in spores which

> would make the situation a

> lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

> Remediation of toxic mold must be performed

> by a knowledgeable person

> using Hazardous Materials protocols.

> (not your landlord with a fan)

> -

>

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Yes Theresa,

I know exactly, I mean exactly what you mean. In fact my car is still sitting

in my parents driveway. Even if it ran I am not allowed to get in it because it

was contaminated sitting in my garage. I was stuck in my house with no help. I

had to walk to the store and all. I finally learned to triple bag things and I

used my belt to carry things over my shoulder. Anyway, I finally did get help

from my family and without it I would still be there or in the street so I do

understand. At that time I was advised to keep windows open when possible but

not to run fans because it would keep things or put things airborne. My mistake

was trying to fix the problem for the landlord. I suggest that you do your best

not to disturb any of the mold, I know this is goofy advice but just keep

learning and pray if that's something you do. Do your best with your diet until

you can do something. Vinegar can be your best friend for now as well as garlic.

Wash your hands often and rub them with

vinegar and wash your cloths with it in the rinse cycle. Make sure your son

gets lots of fresh air.

Basically anything you can do preventative until you can do something. I

closed of the worst areas and just tried not to move around very much.

I feel like its all bad advice but I understand being in that position and

know there is only so much you can do.

Keep the faith, something will come through but build your knowledge......

Please let me know if I can help you (with information anyway) I wish I could

say I could do more.

Chris...

<green_eyed_indian_princess@...> wrote:

Thanks. I can't move. I have no money to start over on. My son is

autistic and my car isn't running so I can't even leave the house. I am very

frustrated and have begun to feel nauseated every time I go to the bedroom near

the bathroom or even go into the bathroom. I was running a fan because my

landlord told me to. He also told me to spray it with bleach. What should I do

now?

Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...> wrote: seems to be the one here

giving the important advice. This is exactly what happened to me. I did not know

these things either at the time and even went as far as agreeing to try to do

the remediation myself to help out the landlord. I thought this was for sure the

only way I knew it would be done thoroughly. Of course I knew nothing about mold

then. Long story short, one dog is blind, one has asthma and skin problems, I

have had numerous problems to long to list. I had a professional test so I did

end up finding out what I could take and not take. I decided only to take my

computer and I thoroughly cleaned and disinfected it, as stated this proved

to be a mistake.

The health department will not do anything. If you get luck as I did you can

have the county inspector come out and issue code violations although I am

certain this will be to no avail as well but good for you in the future. Above

and beyond all, NO FANS and DO NOT disturb anything. There are legal forms to

send to the landlord but if you are able to move do so now. Try not to take

anything especially paper wood or anything porous, I suggest sealing everything

and putting it in a storage unit awaiting the landlord to pay for remediation of

your things. Only my personal opinion and because I was able to, I would take it

all as a loss and start over fresh, especially if there are health problems

involved, but again this is only my opinion based on my own experience. READ

LOTS... This was a great place to start and so is mold-help.org. If only I knew

that then..

Hope that helps.

Chris...

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Haley <myhaze@...> wrote:

>

> - I'd call the health department to see if they'll make this

guy clean things up for the future. But see what allows you to vacate

your lease for unsafe conditions & get out while you can. Your son's

reaction can get worse with time. Go to moldwarriors.com, buy the

book and read it after you leave. Good for you for figuring this

mystery out so quickly!

>

> -Haley

And be wary of allowing anyone to disturb the mold colony, as this

can release a vast increase in spores which would make the situation a

lot worse - by several orders of magnitude.

Remediation of toxic mold must be performed by a knowledgeable person

using Hazardous Materials protocols.

(not your landlord with a fan)

-

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