Re: NBC Weight Loss Show

October 20, 2004

Here's my blog entry on it this morning:

~~

Ok, I watched The Biggest Loser last night and I was enthralled. I especially

like the fact that the two trainers have very different coaching philosophies.

Naturally, I'm pulling for the red team with Evil Jillian the size 2 demon from

hell in charge. When I workout with my trainer I expect to get yelled at,

badgered, bullied, and beaten into the floor from one end of the gym to the

other. I thrive on that.

I wasn't as impressed with Friendly Bob's " let's all hold hands and sing songs

and talk about our feelings " approach. Although, I will admit that he scored

some major points with me when his people were throwing up in the bushes.

Obviously he's pushing them pretty damn hard; he's just nicer about it. Like,

" let's all hold hands and sing songs and get motivated to puke our guts out. "

LOL

Somebody was asking me how it's even possible for these people to be losing

10-20 pounds the first week. Well, the human body is mostly water. Muscle tissue

is the most watery. It's like 75% water. Under extreme conditions the water and

muscle go first. There's no fat burning required to drop massive amounts of

scale weight quickly. The more you weigh, the more staggering the drop can be.

Even a healthy race car driver at an ideal weight drops 6-12 pounds during a

three or four hour race. Even I've gotten crushed and dehydrated at rock

concerts and come home 7 pounds lighter. :-)

So, if these large, out-of-shape people suddenly slash their calories and make

working out their full time job, fat (and water and muscle) will start flying

off of them. They probably are losing muscle at first, but that's not

necessarily bad. As you get smaller, you don't need the same kind of muscle mass

as someone carrying an extra 200 pounds around with them all day. Think about

picking up a 100-200 pound barbell and taking that with you everywhere you go.

You'd need some SERIOUS muscle mass. Put the barbell down (or lose the fat) and

you don't need quite so much. They did dunk all of those people. So when it's

over we should be able to find out what happened to their lean mass and

percentage of body fat.

I loved the giant buffet table loaded with what each contestant used to eat in a

day. It had french fries, fried chicken, spaghetti, donuts, bacon and eggs,

pizza, chocolate cake, burgers, you name it. And by each heap of food was the

contestant's name, like they'd read everyone's pre-contest food diary and just

plunked down an entire day's worth of the high-calorie garbage they used to eat.

Everybody was stunned and grossed out. My favorite comment was from the woman

who went, OMG, I'm 5 feet tall. I don't need to eat all that!

Anyway, it was good fun, and my red team won this week. :-)

~~

NBC Weight Loss Show

Just wondering is anyone caught that weight loss show last night? Anyone

have any thoughts on it? I thought that they were losing an awful lot of

weight their first week and working out way too much. Just wanted to here

some comments on it from the veterans here. )

October 20, 2004

I could not make it past 5 minutes on this show. I might try it

again to see what happens, but I cannot stand those reality type

shows where it's clear part of the production includes getting

people to bicker. It will be interesting to see which team wins

though. Isn't the premise that one team is going to lose weight by

eating less and one team is going to eat more, or something like

that...Anyhoo, I enjoyed reading your summary of the show!!! )

> Here's my blog entry on it this morning:

>

> ~~

> Ok, I watched The Biggest Loser last night and I was enthralled. I

especially like the fact that the two trainers have very different

coaching philosophies. Naturally, I'm pulling for the red team with

Evil Jillian the size 2 demon from hell in charge. When I workout

with my trainer I expect to get yelled at, badgered, bullied, and

beaten into the floor from one end of the gym to the other. I thrive

on that.

>

> I wasn't as impressed with Friendly Bob's " let's all hold hands

and sing songs and talk about our feelings " approach. Although, I

will admit that he scored some major points with me when his people

were throwing up in the bushes. Obviously he's pushing them pretty

damn hard; he's just nicer about it. Like, " let's all hold hands and

sing songs and get motivated to puke our guts out. " LOL

>

> Somebody was asking me how it's even possible for these people to

be losing 10-20 pounds the first week. Well, the human body is

mostly water. Muscle tissue is the most watery. It's like 75% water.

Under extreme conditions the water and muscle go first. There's no

fat burning required to drop massive amounts of scale weight

quickly. The more you weigh, the more staggering the drop can be.

Even a healthy race car driver at an ideal weight drops 6-12 pounds

during a three or four hour race. Even I've gotten crushed and

dehydrated at rock concerts and come home 7 pounds lighter. :-)

>

> So, if these large, out-of-shape people suddenly slash their

calories and make working out their full time job, fat (and water

and muscle) will start flying off of them. They probably are losing

muscle at first, but that's not necessarily bad. As you get smaller,

you don't need the same kind of muscle mass as someone carrying an

extra 200 pounds around with them all day. Think about picking up a

100-200 pound barbell and taking that with you everywhere you go.

You'd need some SERIOUS muscle mass. Put the barbell down (or lose

the fat) and you don't need quite so much. They did dunk all of

those people. So when it's over we should be able to find out what

happened to their lean mass and percentage of body fat.

>

> I loved the giant buffet table loaded with what each contestant

used to eat in a day. It had french fries, fried chicken, spaghetti,

donuts, bacon and eggs, pizza, chocolate cake, burgers, you name it.

And by each heap of food was the contestant's name, like they'd read

everyone's pre-contest food diary and just plunked down an entire

day's worth of the high-calorie garbage they used to eat. Everybody

was stunned and grossed out. My favorite comment was from the woman

who went, OMG, I'm 5 feet tall. I don't need to eat all that!

>

> Anyway, it was good fun, and my red team won this week. :-)

> ~~

>

> NBC Weight Loss Show

>

> Just wondering is anyone caught that weight loss show last

night? Anyone

> have any thoughts on it? I thought that they were losing an

awful lot of

> weight their first week and working out way too much. Just

wanted to here

> some comments on it from the veterans here. )

>

October 20, 2004

Thanks for sending that out. I knew most of what they lost was water

weight..but I was like...22 pounds in one week, there is no way! I honestly

thought the show was making the weight they lost look good to the

viewers..but I guess it is possible.

Hey , I have a question for you. I am starting BFL for a second time

and this week I am really just focusing on the eating and am going to start

exercising next week. I really need to catch up on some sleep before I

start, I am just exhausted and don't want to get worse. Anyways, I know that

getting that ripped muscle look is more the way you eat than the exercise

you do so my question is, what happens when you eat the BFL way and don't

exercise? Will I gain weight or just stay the same? I am considered one of

those skinny-fat people, 120lbs and 5'4 " , don't need to lose weight, just

lose bodyfat and firm up.

Thanks!

Re: NBC Weight Loss Show

Here's my blog entry on it this morning:

~~

Ok, I watched The Biggest Loser last night and I was enthralled. I

especially like the fact that the two trainers have very different coaching

philosophies. Naturally, I'm pulling for the red team with Evil Jillian the

size 2 demon from hell in charge. When I workout with my trainer I expect to

get yelled at, badgered, bullied, and beaten into the floor from one end of

the gym to the other. I thrive on that.

I wasn't as impressed with Friendly Bob's " let's all hold hands and sing

songs and talk about our feelings " approach. Although, I will admit that he

scored some major points with me when his people were throwing up in the

bushes. Obviously he's pushing them pretty damn hard; he's just nicer about

it. Like, " let's all hold hands and sing songs and get motivated to puke our

guts out. " LOL

Somebody was asking me how it's even possible for these people to be

losing 10-20 pounds the first week. Well, the human body is mostly water.

Muscle tissue is the most watery. It's like 75% water. Under extreme

conditions the water and muscle go first. There's no fat burning required to

drop massive amounts of scale weight quickly. The more you weigh, the more

staggering the drop can be. Even a healthy race car driver at an ideal

weight drops 6-12 pounds during a three or four hour race. Even I've gotten

crushed and dehydrated at rock concerts and come home 7 pounds lighter. :-)

So, if these large, out-of-shape people suddenly slash their calories and

make working out their full time job, fat (and water and muscle) will start

flying off of them. They probably are losing muscle at first, but that's not

necessarily bad. As you get smaller, you don't need the same kind of muscle

mass as someone carrying an extra 200 pounds around with them all day. Think

about picking up a 100-200 pound barbell and taking that with you everywhere

you go. You'd need some SERIOUS muscle mass. Put the barbell down (or lose

the fat) and you don't need quite so much. They did dunk all of those

people. So when it's over we should be able to find out what happened to

their lean mass and percentage of body fat.

I loved the giant buffet table loaded with what each contestant used to

eat in a day. It had french fries, fried chicken, spaghetti, donuts, bacon

and eggs, pizza, chocolate cake, burgers, you name it. And by each heap of

food was the contestant's name, like they'd read everyone's pre-contest food

diary and just plunked down an entire day's worth of the high-calorie

garbage they used to eat. Everybody was stunned and grossed out. My favorite

comment was from the woman who went, OMG, I'm 5 feet tall. I don't need to

eat all that!

Anyway, it was good fun, and my red team won this week. :-)

~~

NBC Weight Loss Show

Just wondering is anyone caught that weight loss show last night? Anyone

have any thoughts on it? I thought that they were losing an awful lot of

weight their first week and working out way too much. Just wanted to

here

some comments on it from the veterans here. )

October 20, 2004

>

> Isn't the premise that one team is going to lose weight by

> eating less and one team is going to eat more, or something like

> that...Anyhoo, I enjoyed reading your summary of the show!!! )

>

Technically that is what they named the diets but I bet if you broke

them down they are pretty similar. They both mentioned lowering carbs

and calories as well as other things I can't remember at the moment.

Colleen

October 20, 2004

- I thought the same thing about the amount of weight they lost!

With the 2 " smallest losers " losing *only* about 5 lbs in one week and that

being seen as " less than " results, it is no wonder it is hard to make people

understand that slow and steady does it. Five pounds in one week is A LOT!

I had a very mini freak out yesterday feeling that it was " going fast

enough " even before seeing the show! Luckily I got control of that before

it took over :-)

Kathy

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 October, 2004 12:17 PM

Subject: NBC Weight Loss Show

Just wondering is anyone caught that weight loss show last night? Anyone

have any thoughts on it? I thought that they were losing an awful lot of

weight their first week and working out way too much. Just wanted to here

some comments on it from the veterans here. )

October 21, 2004

If you're eating BFL meals at a slight calorie deficit you'll continue to lose

fat whether you're exercising or not. And obviously, if you're meeting your

calorie needs you'll stay the same, and if you're eating more than you need

you'll gain.

So, if you're only doing the eating this week, just pay attention to your hunger

level. If you get hungry and need to eat every 2-3 hours you'll know your

portions are right. Don't stuff yourself and don't walk around starving. If

you're not exercising, you may need smaller or less calorie-dense portions or

one less meal per day. Go by how you're feeling and you should be able to hold

your weight pretty steady while getting the food routine down.

RE: NBC Weight Loss Show