Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I think that a funky coffee eo or co2 can substitute for that weak smell of skunk you mention. Really. Maybe with a touch of costus. >Anya McCoy Hi Anya, This reminds me - I've been meaning to ask about costus. I've ordered it once, from someone who used to sell off her surpluses, so I don't know the original source. It just smells rubbery and foul to me -- and as I was just saying, I like smells like skunk,manure, goat, silage, so this type of potency is not the problem. I've got some ambergris tincturing and recognize what's been referred to as the 'fecal' smell it has and I can see the potential of that, so again fecal is not my objection either. Does rubbery and foul sound like costus to you? e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 At 02:13 AM 2/20/2007, you wrote: >Hi everyone. >I know that it's risky to fall in love with a single botanical, but I >think each of us has done it at some time or another. I am a lover of >leathery, oudhy, tobacco-y, musky blends at the expense of topnotes >that make my tastes sometimes basenote murky. > >Lately, I have become infatuated with costus root EO. I'm just amazed >at its potent but subtle transforming power. A single drop in a fairly >large volume of blended perfume seems to me to add a body and richness >that is difficult to describe, but so very great. It is so leathery and >smooth and animalic that I can't seem to get enough of it. Placed >against some green notes, some castoreum, some labdanum, and some >cardamom, it is heaven to me. I almost want to rank it up there with >true ambergris tincture as a fixative and transforming scent. > >OK, so it's an infatuation. Does anyone else have comments about this >botanical? Hi Many adore costus root oil for the reasons you state above. Alas, IFRA, and the coming global harmonization which will make us all lock step with the EU regulations, bans it, completely: http://tinyurl.com/2m4822 Of course, for those willing to take the sensitization gamble, you may use anything you want in a private blend for yourself, family, friends, private clients that sign a waiver. You have a good nose; many great perfumers love costus, once they learn to get past the funky, wet fur smell of it undiluted. You've used it in the proper dilution, too. All the more reason to join in support of the boycott of the 40th amendment. Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://ArtisanNaturalPerfumers.org Natural Perfumers Community Group / Natural Perfumery Blog http://AnyasGarden.Blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 At 02:13 AM 2/20/2007, you wrote: >Hi everyone. >I know that it's risky to fall in love with a single botanical, but I >think each of us has done it at some time or another. I am a lover of >leathery, oudhy, tobacco-y, musky blends at the expense of topnotes >that make my tastes sometimes basenote murky. > >Lately, I have become infatuated with costus root EO. I'm just amazed >at its potent but subtle transforming power. A single drop in a fairly >large volume of blended perfume seems to me to add a body and richness >that is difficult to describe, but so very great. It is so leathery and >smooth and animalic that I can't seem to get enough of it. Placed >against some green notes, some castoreum, some labdanum, and some >cardamom, it is heaven to me. I almost want to rank it up there with >true ambergris tincture as a fixative and transforming scent. > >OK, so it's an infatuation. Does anyone else have comments about this >botanical? Hi Many adore costus root oil for the reasons you state above. Alas, IFRA, and the coming global harmonization which will make us all lock step with the EU regulations, bans it, completely: http://tinyurl.com/2m4822 Of course, for those willing to take the sensitization gamble, you may use anything you want in a private blend for yourself, family, friends, private clients that sign a waiver. You have a good nose; many great perfumers love costus, once they learn to get past the funky, wet fur smell of it undiluted. You've used it in the proper dilution, too. All the more reason to join in support of the boycott of the 40th amendment. Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://ArtisanNaturalPerfumers.org Natural Perfumers Community Group / Natural Perfumery Blog http://AnyasGarden.Blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 > Many adore costus root oil for the reasons you state above. Alas, > IFRA, and the coming global harmonization which will make us all lock > step with the EU regulations, bans it, completely: > http://tinyurl.com/2m4822 Of course, for those willing to take the > sensitization gamble, you may use anything you want in a private > blend for yourself, family, friends, private clients that sign a waiver. > SNIP > > > Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http Hi Anya. Thanks for the comments on this. I hadn't paid much attention to the topic in the past. I don't keep up with the politics of IFRA since I am not a business, but it would be a shame to lose this beauty from commercially-produced blends. Costus is a magical component. I just thought of how I'd describe what it did for me: it took a thin, ethereal blend of mine and made it resonate and echo like putting it in a hall of mirrors. It also took the thin texture and made it " chewy. " Ah, what I am learning. Still in love with Costus today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 This reminds me - I've been meaning to ask about costus. > >I've ordered it once, from someone who used to sell off her surpluses, > >so I don't know the original source. It just smells rubbery and foul > >to me -- and as I was just saying, I like smells like skunk,manure, > >goat, silage, so this type of potency is not the problem. I've got > >some ambergris tincturing and recognize what's been referred to as the > >'fecal' smell it has and I can see the potential of that, so again > >fecal is not my objection either. > > > > Does rubbery and foul sound like costus to you? > > Hi e: > > I've never detected rubbery and foul in costus. It's often been > described as dirty hair, or dirty dog.. It's organic, not > petrochemical (rubbery) or rotten (foul.) > Wonder what you were sold! > I'm a fan of costus too! Getting harder to find unfortunately, though. It does have a hint of something rubbery, I see what you mean ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 > > > > > > Does rubbery and foul sound like costus to you? > > > > Hi e: > > > > I've never detected rubbery and foul in costus. It's often been > > described as dirty hair, or dirty dog.. > e, I could imagine that we all perceive it differently but I am imagining what you were sold may have been rancid or something. Costus was used in famous old perfumes like " Cuir de Lancome " and " Chanel Cuir de Russie. " In proper dilution, it has a voluptuous smell like a new leather wallet, old and important. With some labdanum, tobacco, castoreum and a topnote or two, it is out of this world. Another fan of it told me that its natural molecule actually acts surprisingly like a macrocyclic musk, a conveyer and exhalter of blends. Try a drop or two in one of your creations and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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