Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 In a message dated 10/18/2004 3:27:33 AM Central Daylight Time, valerie_owens_i@... writes: Hi Amylee,Well done on the weight loss. Was it the medication that made all the difference? I'm not on anything for PCOS, as being 47 yrs old I've decided not to try anymore for a family. I had treatment for infertility for nearly ten years, until I was 40, but it was only at the end that I was told it was PCOS. Last year I learnt about the link between PCOS and insulin restistance. I've been following a PCOS diet on and off since then and lost 8lbs but that's all. I live in The Netherlands now and although the health care system is very good, the attitude of the doctors is to use natural remedies as much as possible. So, I've taken Chromium to help stabilize my blood glucose levels but they didn't help me lose weight. I know exercise is a main aid in weightloss with PCOS, so I'll have to get back to it now I can breathe easier again. I take metformin which is a diabetes pill, ortho tricycline which is the birth control pill, and spyro which is kind of a water pill. I never did eat enough to weigh almost 300 pounds but to get a doctor to listen to that was pretty hard. I finally found one even though I don't go to see her any more. I get the meds through my sons doctor cause he is cheaper to go through. I am also 47 but the type of PCOS that I had was I had no problem getting pregnant I just couldn't carry full term. was my 13th pregnancy and first live birth. That is why I call him my lucky 13.I had him when I was 34 so that was pretty well it. Found out when it was too late that the metformin could have stopped the other miscarriages. I was also cursed that I would know when I was about four days pregnant. It is hard not to just have a kid like everyone else in the planet. Did you ever think about adopting? Amylee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 In a message dated 10/18/2004 3:27:33 AM Central Daylight Time, valerie_owens_i@... writes: Hi Amylee,Well done on the weight loss. Was it the medication that made all the difference? I'm not on anything for PCOS, as being 47 yrs old I've decided not to try anymore for a family. I had treatment for infertility for nearly ten years, until I was 40, but it was only at the end that I was told it was PCOS. Last year I learnt about the link between PCOS and insulin restistance. I've been following a PCOS diet on and off since then and lost 8lbs but that's all. I live in The Netherlands now and although the health care system is very good, the attitude of the doctors is to use natural remedies as much as possible. So, I've taken Chromium to help stabilize my blood glucose levels but they didn't help me lose weight. I know exercise is a main aid in weightloss with PCOS, so I'll have to get back to it now I can breathe easier again. I take metformin which is a diabetes pill, ortho tricycline which is the birth control pill, and spyro which is kind of a water pill. I never did eat enough to weigh almost 300 pounds but to get a doctor to listen to that was pretty hard. I finally found one even though I don't go to see her any more. I get the meds through my sons doctor cause he is cheaper to go through. I am also 47 but the type of PCOS that I had was I had no problem getting pregnant I just couldn't carry full term. was my 13th pregnancy and first live birth. That is why I call him my lucky 13.I had him when I was 34 so that was pretty well it. Found out when it was too late that the metformin could have stopped the other miscarriages. I was also cursed that I would know when I was about four days pregnant. It is hard not to just have a kid like everyone else in the planet. Did you ever think about adopting? Amylee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 we all understand what it's like to be ill and many of us know first hand what it's like to have families that aren't supportive or just don't understand. nobody would ever tell you to just pull yourself together here. CZ wrote: > >Thanks for your kind words. I'm not used to having people willing >to listen to me venting, so it feels strange not have you >saying; 'pull yourself together' or such like! > >Cheers, > > > > >> >> >> >>>Hope you don't mind if I have a moan but I'm feeling pretty fed >>> >>> >up > > >>>at the moment. >>> >>>I'm just recovering from another bout of bronchitis and now my >>>husband has come down with a cold of which I'm also now feeling >>> >>> >the > > >>>effects. The reduced activity over the last six weeks of illness >>>had meant that I've put back on 6lbs which took me so long to >>> >>> >lose. > > >>>I'm now back to my heaviest ever. Having PCOS means that losing >>>weight is always a real struggle and this forced inactivity is so >>>frustrating. It feels that all that effort to lose the weight >>> >>> >has > > >>>been a waste of time. >>> >>>In the last two years I've had three hand operations; two on my >>>right hand (removal of a ganglion and the other for carpal >>> >>> >tunnel) > > >>>and one op on my left hand for carpal tunnel. Over the last few >>>months I've developed pain in my left wrist and I can see a >>> >>> >ganglion > > >>>forming there as well! I really don't want more surgery but the >>>alternative is daily pain, as when I flex and extend my wrist the >>>cyst presses on the tendons. >>> >>>In addition to this, in the last few weeks, I've begun to have >>>problems with vision in my right eye and reading and sewing are >>>becoming more difficult. I went to the optician yesterday and >>> >>> >he's > > >>>asked me to return on Monday without wearing my contact lenses. >>> >>> >I'm > > >>>scared that it could be serious and that my sight is degenerating. >>> >>>All this illness and stress has made me feel depressed and I'm >>>beginning to feel like I did years ago when I had a nervous >>>breakdown, when I had panic attacks and had feelings of not being >>>able to cope. >>> >>>I really don't want to go to the doctor about all this, as I've >>>always loathed going and get very het up before I go, thinking >>> >>> >that > > >>>they'll just say I'm making it up and wasting their time. This >>>stems from my childhood when I had to be at deaths door before my >>>mother would take me to a doctor and warn me that I'd better not >>> >>> >be > > >>>making something out of nothing. When I was ill as a child, and >>> >>> >off > > >>>school, she'd make me sit tests that she'd set, or make me clean >>> >>> >the > > >>>windows, as a means of punishing me for being ill and to make me >>>rather go to school than stay at home. Now that my mother is in >>> >>> >her > > >>>eighties, she has medical problems and expects me to be all >>>sympathetic and discuss them in detail but she still doesn't want >>> >>> >to > > >>>know if I'm ill, as she finds it 'too upsetting'. >>> >>>Sorry this turned out to be an epic...I obviously had more to get >>>off my chest than I realized. >>> >>>Thanks for taking the time to read all this, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >>> The Being Sick Community >>> >>> >>>Message Archives-/messages >>> >>>Chat:- Scheduled Chats at >>>/chat >>> >>>Bookmarks:- >>>Add a website URL you have found useful. >>>/links >>> >>>Personal Complaints or problems:- >>>Please contact a moderator >>>email: -owner >>> >>>Subscription Details:- >>>1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you >>> >>> >receive. > > >>>2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for >>> >>> >you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of >email. > > >>>3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at >>> >>> >your convenience and receive no email. > > >>>To modify your subscription settings please visit:- >>>/join >>> >>>To subscribe or unsubscribe please email:- >>>-subscribe >>>-unsubscribe >>> >>>This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No >>> >>> >one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If >you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified >physician. > > >>>~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >>>When nothing is sure, everything is possible. >>> >>>--- Margaret Drabble >>> >>>~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hello Maybe you can do your own glucose tolerance test, just get yourself a glucose meter, many are given away because they make money on the test strips not the meters. You could also borrow someones and just pay them for the strips you used. I've already given away my spare meter. Then take a fasting reading ie.: first thing in the morning or at least six hours after you've eaten (it should be around 90 to 110. Take about 45 to 100 grams of sugar (chocolate would be good for this), and then just take a reading every half hour for about two to three hours. This will give you an idea of how fast it is rising, how high it rises to and how quickly it comes down. Basically it should only get as high as 140 within two hours and if it gets over 180, you should talk to your Doctor. You can find out specifics about such a test by searching the web. Another thing is to chart how you feel after a meal, ie.: any headaches, bloated or stomach pain feelings half hour after, one hour after etc. If you find you're feeling genreally icky for the first two hours after a meal and then you feel fine, that's the glucose talking even if you're not diabetic. Regards, wrote: > >Thanks . I did feel bad about dumping my moans on you all >but is has helped and even enabled me to open up to my husband a bit >more as to how I'm feeling. > >Yes, I do wonder about the blood sugar. I can't bring myself to go >to the doctor though to ask for a glucose tolerence test. > >I have wondered it the vision is anything to do with the severe >headaches I get (CPH) and the high dose of anti-inflammatory pills I >have to take to keep the headaches at bay. I could ask the doctor >to refer me back to neurologist I suppose but again it's the worry >that I'm wasting their time that stops me from asking. > >I used to have Valium in the house but since I moved to The >Netherlands 6 years ago I've been so well mentally that I had to >throw them away as the pills were so out of date. I've just started >taking some herbal stress relief pills that can be bought over the >counter and they seem to be keeping me going. > >Well, I'm going to go and distract myself! You're right....it's a >good means of coping. > >Kind regards, > > > > > > >>I agree with about the blood sugar. If you aren't diabetic, >> >> >you should know that it seems that PCOS, Fibromyalgia, and diabetes >are all connected in a way that is not fully understood. A glucose >tolerance test can help determine if you are diabetic (can't recall >offhand if you are or not). I'm sorry you're not feeling well. I >myself get so depressed sometimes that things just feel out of >control. I resort to one of two things. Diversion or medication. >I always keep some valium on hand for when I get really bad. I >think it might be prudent to ask your doctor if that might be >something you could do. I also try to find things I can do, even >little things that will make me feel better. I'm guessing that your >eyesight is making that difficult. If it is your blood sugar, >getting your sugars under control will help your eyesight. In the >mean time, lean on the group and vent your frustrations. It really >does help. Sometimes I feel like I'm just whining...but the group >understands like no one else can. Hang in there, and remember we're >here for you. > > >>Hugs, >> >> >> Just a moan >> >> >> >> >> >> Hope you don't mind if I have a moan but I'm feeling pretty fed >> >> >up > > >> at the moment. >> >> I'm just recovering from another bout of bronchitis and now my >> husband has come down with a cold of which I'm also now feeling >> >> >the > > >> effects. The reduced activity over the last six weeks of >> >> >illness > > >> had meant that I've put back on 6lbs which took me so long to >> >> >lose. > > >> I'm now back to my heaviest ever. Having PCOS means that losing >> weight is always a real struggle and this forced inactivity is >> >> >so > > >> frustrating. It feels that all that effort to lose the weight >> >> >has > > >> been a waste of time. >> >> In the last two years I've had three hand operations; two on my >> right hand (removal of a ganglion and the other for carpal >> >> >tunnel) > > >> and one op on my left hand for carpal tunnel. Over the last few >> months I've developed pain in my left wrist and I can see a >> >> >ganglion > > >> forming there as well! I really don't want more surgery but the >> alternative is daily pain, as when I flex and extend my wrist >> >> >the > > >> cyst presses on the tendons. >> >> In addition to this, in the last few weeks, I've begun to have >> problems with vision in my right eye and reading and sewing are >> becoming more difficult. I went to the optician yesterday and >> >> >he's > > >> asked me to return on Monday without wearing my contact lenses. >> >> >I'm > > >> scared that it could be serious and that my sight is >> >> >degenerating. > > >> All this illness and stress has made me feel depressed and I'm >> beginning to feel like I did years ago when I had a nervous >> breakdown, when I had panic attacks and had feelings of not >> >> >being > > >> able to cope. >> >> I really don't want to go to the doctor about all this, as I've >> always loathed going and get very het up before I go, thinking >> >> >that > > >> they'll just say I'm making it up and wasting their time. This >> stems from my childhood when I had to be at deaths door before >> >> >my > > >> mother would take me to a doctor and warn me that I'd better not >> >> >be > > >> making something out of nothing. When I was ill as a child, and >> >> >off > > >> school, she'd make me sit tests that she'd set, or make me clean >> >> >the > > >> windows, as a means of punishing me for being ill and to make me >> rather go to school than stay at home. Now that my mother is in >> >> >her > > >> eighties, she has medical problems and expects me to be all >> sympathetic and discuss them in detail but she still doesn't >> >> >want to > > >> know if I'm ill, as she finds it 'too upsetting'. >> >> Sorry this turned out to be an epic...I obviously had more to >> >> >get > > >> off my chest than I realized. >> >> Thanks for taking the time to read all this, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >> The Being Sick Community >> >> >> Message Archives-/messages >> >> Chat:- Scheduled Chats at >> /chat >> >> Bookmarks:- >> Add a website URL you have found useful. >> /links >> >> Personal Complaints or problems:- >> Please contact a moderator >> email: -owner >> >> Subscription Details:- >> 1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list >> >> >you receive. > > >> 2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for >> >> >you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of >email. > > >> 3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at >> >> >your convenience and receive no email. > > >> To modify your subscription settings please visit:- >> /join >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe please email:- >> -subscribe >> -unsubscribe >> >> This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No >> >> >one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If >you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified >physician. > > >> ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >> When nothing is sure, everything is possible. >> >> --- Margaret Drabble >> >> ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 In a message dated 10/22/2004 4:14:21 AM Central Daylight Time, valerie_owens_i@... writes: No, we didn't want to adopt. There were two reasons; one was that I am adopted and didn't have a great childhood and secondly, my husband and I wanted our own flesh and blood. As I hadn't got a genetic past, so to speak, I wanted a genetic future, with something of me living on through my biological offspring. That is understandable. I am sorry that you never got to know motherhood. Amylee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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