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Hey everyone

I had this on save and I saw Anyas query on it this morning so thought would

post up. Yes I have checked .... there are some good website on Farina.....

www.farinahaus.de/

I have had a customer for the last few years who always requests my Napoleon

Farina which I thought is based on the 4711 ........

Historians will note that 4711 is the number of the street where Farina lived

in Cologne where he created 'Kolnishches Wasser' which I believe is the basis

for the famous 4711. Napoleon loved it so that he insisted that Empress

phine (who was very partial to musk) she wear it in his presence.... this

has come from memory so if incorrect , post up

I have been very interested in 19th century ('scents ' they called them this)

so this comes from that...

The 19th century brought all based on the cult of things chinese and japanese

and perfumers spent time mingling lavender and cloves and patchouli...... they

found spice....

regards

Janita

below here is my natural perfume recipe/formula for Napoleon's Farina ......

sorry had to look back in my red book for smaller formula/recipe....I am sure

there are many variants on this, but my customers like this one..

120ml organic alcohol based on sugar beet ( or equivalent)

20 Bergamot FCF (Furuno coumerin free)

18 drops orange

20 drops neroli

20 drops petitigrain

16 drops lemon

17 drops lavender

16 drops rosemary

best

Janita

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> Hey everyone

>

> I had this on save and I saw Anyas query on it this morning so thought

> would post up. Yes I have checked .... there are some good website on

> Farina..... www.farinahaus.de/

>

> I have had a customer for the last few years who always requests my

> Napoleon Farina which I thought is based on the 4711 ........

>

> Historians will note that 4711 is the number of the street where Farina

> lived in Cologne where he created 'Kolnishches Wasser' which I believe

> is the basis for the famous 4711. Napoleon loved it so that he insisted

> that Empress phine (who was very partial to musk) she wear it in his

> presence.... this has come from memory so if incorrect , post up

>

> I have been very interested in 19th century ('scents ' they called them

> this) so this comes from that...

>

> The 19th century brought all based on the cult of things chinese and

> japanese and perfumers spent time mingling lavender and cloves and

> patchouli...... they found spice....

>

> regards

> Janita

Dear Janita,

I find this info very intriguing and would like to know if you could

recommend a few text on the popularity of scents or fragrances at

different time periods and of various cultures... I have read many and

as always very curious about learning more especially the oriental theme

of the 19th century.

Thanx!

Lesle

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lesle@... wrote:

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> Historians will note that 4711 is the number of the street where Farina

>

> The 19th century brought all based on the cult of things chinese and

> japanese and perfumers spent time mingling lavender and cloves and

> patchouli...... they found spice....

>

> regards

> Janita

Dear Janita,

I find this info very intriguing and would like to know if you could

recommend a few text on the popularity of scents or fragrances at

different time periods and of various cultures... I have read many and

as always very curious about learning more especially the oriental theme

of the 19th century.

Thanx!

Lesle

Hi Lesle

Perfumery with Herbs Ivan Day

- been valued as one of the best introductory books for the beginner to early

perfumery. This is a lovely book .... a gift from a friend a first edition...

with line drawings by Margaret Tebbs.when I started out. published in 1979....

very useful for raw material and descriptions and fixatives.

Darton, Longman & Todd is association with the Herb Society.

what's nice about this one apart from being so informative about natural raw

materials is the size...... not too cumbersome...

Perfume (the creation and allure of classic fragrances by Irvine

Perfume Irvine....big book but useful info

Some interesting historical information there... including a section of

aphrodesia and how the different eras used unusual methods to attract their

lover.

per example: (grin this one especially for our goat, dog, sheep fragranteurs)

'One animal ingredient that was considered highly sexy by the Sudanese women was

the sea-snail (Unguis odoratus) mixed crushed to a powder with frankincense,

cinnamon and cloves.

'In China their courtesans were fed on bland foods flavoured with musk, so

that when their skin was stroked in the act of love their heated bodies sweated

pure perfume.'

Palmer Beauty for Free ( a compendium of Beauty Secrets from

Hearsay, History and Hedgrow.)..... charming photos and Farina recipe... also

recipe for Rondeletia and Hovenia........ those 19th century scents and other

charming recipes from history.

- Cape ISBn 0224 017985

there are a few items on google..... just tap in History of Perfume

Hope this helps

fragrantly

Janita

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>

> lesle@... wrote:

>>

>> Historians will note that 4711 is the number of the street where Farina

>

>

>>

>> The 19th century brought all based on the cult of things chinese and

>> japanese and perfumers spent time mingling lavender and cloves and

>> patchouli...... they found spice....

>>

>> regards

>> Janita

>

>

> Dear Janita,

> I find this info very intriguing and would like to know if you could

> recommend a few text on the popularity of scents or fragrances at

> different time periods and of various cultures... I have read many and

> as always very curious about learning more especially the oriental theme

> of the 19th century.

>

> Thanx!

> Lesle

>

>

> Hi Lesle

>

> Perfumery with Herbs Ivan Day

>

> - been valued as one of the best introductory books for the beginner to

> early perfumery. This is a lovely book .... a gift from a friend a

> first edition... with line drawings by Margaret Tebbs.when I started

> out. published in 1979.... very useful for raw material and

> descriptions and fixatives.

> Darton, Longman & Todd is association with the Herb Society.

> what's nice about this one apart from being so informative about natural

> raw materials is the size...... not too cumbersome...

>

> Perfume (the creation and allure of classic fragrances by Irvine

> Perfume Irvine....big book but useful info

>

> Some interesting historical information there... including a section of

> aphrodesia and how the different eras used unusual methods to attract

> their lover.

>

> per example: (grin this one especially for our goat, dog, sheep

> fragranteurs) 'One animal ingredient that was considered highly sexy by

> the Sudanese women was the sea-snail (Unguis odoratus) mixed crushed to

> a powder with frankincense, cinnamon and cloves.

>

> 'In China their courtesans were fed on bland foods flavoured with musk,

> so that when their skin was stroked in the act of love their heated

> bodies sweated pure perfume.'

>

> Palmer Beauty for Free ( a compendium of Beauty Secrets from

> Hearsay, History and Hedgrow.)..... charming photos and Farina recipe...

> also recipe for Rondeletia and Hovenia........ those 19th century scents

> and other charming recipes from history.

> - Cape ISBn 0224 017985

>

> there are a few items on google..... just tap in History of Perfume

>

> Hope this helps

>

> fragrantly

> Janita

>

Dear Janita,

Thank you so much for the book titles and sneak preview :). I usually go

straight to Arctander for reference...and have more books on perfumery and

herbs than I have room for these you have recommended sound fabulous and

I'll have to start with Perfume by Irvine. Along with collecting

essences and blending I love to explore perfume history...thank you for

sharing...

LF

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> there are a few items on google..... just tap in History of Perfume

>

> Hope this helps

>

> fragrantly

> Janita

>

Dear Janita,

Thank you so much for the book titles and sneak preview :). I usually go

straight to Arctander for reference...and have more books on perfumery and

herbs than I have room for these you have recommended sound fabulous and

I'll have to start with Perfume by Irvine. Along with collecting

essences and blending I love to explore perfume history...thank you for

sharing...

LF

It is an honour and delight to share any information........ we all have a

fingerprint in life ....... you all here give so much............ how great is

that!!!!

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