Re: seeking mold friend

[Guest guest]

,

I wish I could help all of us with friends.. Maybe we could do 'meetups' in

different cities, I don;t know..

, if you can, you need to get some big HEPA air cleaners going (or in

lieu of that, 20' fans with filters on them) and also, if you can, start

taking cholestyramine to reduce your level of toxic load. These two steps

made a huge difference for me...at least..

And also n-acetyl-cysteine and alpha lipoic acid..

...Trying to help...

[Guest guest]

,

I am sorry, I know what you are going though. I am looking for a new

option, this 2005 trailer is worse than the boat I was living in. I

see no mold anywhere (besides my shower curtain and my soap dish in

the shower which scares me) but I am sick all the time. I really did

not want to face it but I took a trip to north Carolina (near MT.

) and felt great. I could actually read books without

becoming confused. I came back and it hit me just how bad it is here

in this trailer. I was a total vegetable for two days didn't even want

to talk to or email anyone or get out of bed I was so drained. I

have to find another solution. I really have no idea what. Still

thinking about the airstream. Maybe I could go to a campground and

pitch a tent. I really don't know. I have to do something, I can't go

on this way anymore. It's been ten years for me. I can't believe your

brand new home is making you sick! Unbelievable! I am sorry.

>OK, I am having a real hard time now- in 1991 it took me 1 year to recover from

a brief exposure to

>stachy- then for 10 years I suffered fron chronic exposure ending almost in

death a year and a half

>ago- but by last Jan I was healthier than I was in 14 years- then my rental

molded-and my storage

>on the spot was massivly contaminated- then my new house made me deathly sick

in 2 weeks- I

>am back to scratch- staying with a friend-dog in a kennel- trying to rent clean

work space- the

>.place I am living will be available Aug 1 for rent to own- If I can figure out

if it is safe by then- I am

>so reactive to everything now it is hard to tell. Basically-I am tired of going

it alone- it is a very

>>>>lonely place to be- mold hell- to share the house with a like person would

be great--I am 25

>>>min south of Chincoteague on the eastern Shore of VA. Please back channel me

if you think

>>somethig like that might work for you-If there is anyone close to here-would

be great to meet for

>lunch and mutual support- last time lunch was suggested in this area-everyone

was to far away-

>>thought I might try again-getting me down

>

>Thanks,

[Guest guest]

(and ),

What are you referring to when you speak of 'air stream'?

Robt and ,

Could you and others that no matter how clean of an environment you

are in, feel sick...could you have a systemic fungal infection? Has

anyone done blood culture on you to see if you have infection like

that? That would produce toxins in your system no matter where you

are. You may feel worse some places if environment has anything in

it that tilts the scale in your body to too much, when you may be

constantly on the verge of having too many toxins already? Have you

done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

>

> ,

> I am sorry, I know what you are going though. I am looking for a

new

> option, this 2005 trailer is worse than the boat I was living in.

[Guest guest]

It may be the the new stuff that the trailer is made of and not

mold. I get sick in my mom's new apt...I am thinking it is the new

carpet in her place.

I can't even tolerate a house heated with gas heat...it has to be

electricity. Our home has gas and I was finially feeling good again

until we had a cold spell last week and our gas heat came on.

We are moving soon but I can't find a healthy house that I can

afford. I am really sick of being sick and not having a healthy

roof over my head! I want to go back to work and have a life! No

one wants to work near a person with a runny nose, asthma one day

and throwing up the next..it never ends! Plus, on those days, I

can't even make it out of the house! My illness of the day, pain

all over, especially some weird pains in my stomach and asthma

followed by a horrible up-set stomach yesterday...people were not

meant to feel terrible forever! There has got to be a better way

than this!

>

> ,

> I am sorry, I know what you are going though. I am looking for a

new

> option, this 2005 trailer is worse than the boat I was living in.

I

> see no mold anywhere (besides my shower curtain and my soap dish in

> the shower which scares me) but I am sick all the time. I really

did

> not want to face it but I took a trip to north Carolina (near MT.

> ) and felt great. I could actually read books without

> becoming confused. I came back and it hit me just how bad it is

here

> in this trailer. I was a total vegetable for two days didn't even

want

> to talk to or email anyone or get out of bed I was so drained. I

> have to find another solution. I really have no idea what. Still

> thinking about the airstream. Maybe I could go to a campground and

> pitch a tent. I really don't know. I have to do something, I

can't go

> on this way anymore. It's been ten years for me. I can't believe

your

> brand new home is making you sick! Unbelievable! I am sorry.

>

>

>

>

>

> >OK, I am having a real hard time now- in 1991 it took me 1 year

to recover from a brief exposure to

> >stachy- then for 10 years I suffered fron chronic exposure ending

almost in death a year and a half

> >ago- but by last Jan I was healthier than I was in 14 years- then

my rental molded-and my storage

> >on the spot was massivly contaminated- then my new house made me

deathly sick in 2 weeks- I

> >am back to scratch- staying with a friend-dog in a kennel- trying

to rent clean work space- the

> >.place I am living will be available Aug 1 for rent to own- If I

can figure out if it is safe by then- I am

> >so reactive to everything now it is hard to tell. Basically-I am

tired of going it alone- it is a very

> >>>>lonely place to be- mold hell- to share the house with a like

person would be great--I am 25

> >>>min south of Chincoteague on the eastern Shore of VA. Please

back channel me if you think

> >>somethig like that might work for you-If there is anyone close

to here-would be great to meet for

> >lunch and mutual support- last time lunch was suggested in this

area-everyone was to far away-

> >>thought I might try again-getting me down

> >

>

> >Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

What is ALA?

--- In , " barb1283 " <barb1283@...> Have

you

> done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alpha Lipoic Acid. That is what my doctor told me to take to detox

from lead but I know some people are trying it for mycotoxin detox

also.

>

> What is ALA?

>

> --- In , " barb1283 " <barb1283@> Have

> you

> > done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Alpha-lipoic acid is perhaps the best single nutrient you can take to

protect yourself against mycotoxins (and many other toxic chemicals in the

environment.)

There are others. N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) and milk thistle extract also help

a lot.

On 5/18/06, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Alpha Lipoic Acid. That is what my doctor told me to take to detox

> from lead but I know some people are trying it for mycotoxin detox

> also.

>

>

> >

> > What is ALA?

> >

> > --- In , " barb1283 " <barb1283@> Have

> > you

> > > done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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>

>

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:52:00 +0000, you wrote:

>What are you referring to when you speak of 'air stream'?

Barb,

An Airstream is a high quality travel trailer maid out of aluminum:

(that hopefully won't grow any mold and would be less prone to

contamination)

http://www.airstream.com/product_line/travel_trailers/intccd_home.html

>Could you and others that no matter how clean of an environment you

>are in, feel sick..

No, I am convinced (know for fact) if I could escape this

mold/microorganism hell I have brought everywhere with me I could

improve 50 fold over what I am experiencing right now.

I don't know weather that requires a clean room at Intel or going to

the mountains or living in a tent but I know it can be done and I need

to try harder to achieve this. I am tired of wasting away in this

trailer. It might be as simple as moving out of this park. I know

some of the trailers here are mold havens. It could be wafting over

here from other moldy trailers. Sounds far fetched but if my house

could do it to me when I was sleeping in my back yard I don't see why

it couldn't happen here. More than likely though I contaminated my

trailer and now I have to discard it and start all over. I bought and

ran a dehumidifier while I was gone. When I got back I left it

running while I was inside. I think this might be what put me down so

hard for two days. Whatever is in my trailer or in the air could

have been propagated in the dehumidifier in the short time I was gone.

That or the shock of coming back to a moldy environment. Or a

combination of all of these things.

>could you have a systemic fungal infection? Has

>anyone done blood culture on you to see if you have infection like

>that?

I suppose I should see someone but when you are bleeding financially

and not even able to get any help from the agencies you paid taxes

into all of your life you tend to have second thoughts. I saw

specialist's 10 years ago including two environmental Dr's and none

really helped me. No one diagnosed my mold sensitivities. I would have

loved to have seen Dr shoemaker ten years ago. I think he would be of

great help to me. But than I already know what I have to do to treat

myself and that is strict avoidance.

>are. You may feel worse some places if environment has anything in

>it that tilts the scale in your body to too much, when you may be

>constantly on the verge of having too many toxins already? Have you

>done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

I am probably the wrong person to talk to on this subject. I am not

trying to be negative on purpose.

I have always been skeptical of all these treatments and pills (not

necessarily the specific ones you mentioned). Especially when someone

does it in lew of avoiding mold in the first place. I have to admit

out of desperation I have tried vitamins and hot baths, hepa filters,

ozone devices. None of which did a thing for me. Avoiding mold has

always helped immensely.

I also believe that chemical/pesticide exposure needs to be avoided

at all cost's being this is what brought on my illness in the first

place.

So I think this is where I need to put my focus, somehow finding and

maintaining a new safe environment.

It's to bad medical dr's don't take any pride in their jobs,

" diagnosing and treating " their patients we wouldn't have this

problem if that were the case.

[Guest guest]

-robert, sure sounds like you have become chemical sensative. if you

are, a new trailer, with new carpet, glues used on counter tops,

things like that are going to make you ill

too.

-- In

, Christ <antares41-41@...> wrote:

>

> On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:52:00 +0000, you wrote:

>

>

> >What are you referring to when you speak of 'air stream'?

> Barb,

> An Airstream is a high quality travel trailer maid out of aluminum:

> (that hopefully won't grow any mold and would be less prone to

> contamination)

>

http://www.airstream.com/product_line/travel_trailers/intccd_home.html

>

> >Could you and others that no matter how clean of an environment

you

> >are in, feel sick..

> No, I am convinced (know for fact) if I could escape this

> mold/microorganism hell I have brought everywhere with me I could

> improve 50 fold over what I am experiencing right now.

> I don't know weather that requires a clean room at Intel or going

to

> the mountains or living in a tent but I know it can be done and I

need

> to try harder to achieve this. I am tired of wasting away in this

> trailer. It might be as simple as moving out of this park. I know

> some of the trailers here are mold havens. It could be wafting over

> here from other moldy trailers. Sounds far fetched but if my house

> could do it to me when I was sleeping in my back yard I don't see

why

> it couldn't happen here. More than likely though I contaminated my

> trailer and now I have to discard it and start all over. I bought

and

> ran a dehumidifier while I was gone. When I got back I left it

> running while I was inside. I think this might be what put me down

so

> hard for two days. Whatever is in my trailer or in the air could

> have been propagated in the dehumidifier in the short time I was

gone.

> That or the shock of coming back to a moldy environment. Or a

> combination of all of these things.

>

> >could you have a systemic fungal infection? Has

> >anyone done blood culture on you to see if you have infection like

> >that?

> I suppose I should see someone but when you are bleeding financially

> and not even able to get any help from the agencies you paid taxes

> into all of your life you tend to have second thoughts. I saw

> specialist's 10 years ago including two environmental Dr's and none

> really helped me. No one diagnosed my mold sensitivities. I would

have

> loved to have seen Dr shoemaker ten years ago. I think he would be

of

> great help to me. But than I already know what I have to do to

treat

> myself and that is strict avoidance.

>

> >are. You may feel worse some places if environment has anything

in

> >it that tilts the scale in your body to too much, when you may be

> >constantly on the verge of having too many toxins already? Have

you

> >done sauna, CSM, vitamin C IV's, ALA or other things to detoxify?

> I am probably the wrong person to talk to on this subject. I am not

> trying to be negative on purpose.

>

> I have always been skeptical of all these treatments and pills (not

> necessarily the specific ones you mentioned). Especially when

someone

> does it in lew of avoiding mold in the first place. I have to admit

> out of desperation I have tried vitamins and hot baths, hepa

filters,

> ozone devices. None of which did a thing for me. Avoiding mold has

> always helped immensely.

>

> I also believe that chemical/pesticide exposure needs to be

avoided

> at all cost's being this is what brought on my illness in the first

> place.

>

> So I think this is where I need to put my focus, somehow finding

and

> maintaining a new safe environment.

>

> It's to bad medical dr's don't take any pride in their jobs,

> " diagnosing and treating " their patients we wouldn't have this

> problem if that were the case.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 19 May 2006 16:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

>-robert, sure sounds like you have become chemical sensative. if you

>are, a new trailer, with new carpet, glues used on counter tops,

>things like that are going to make you ill

>too.

>

Jeanie,

I think most of the new smell has worn away. I was a little worried

about that when I first moved in. I don't think it's a factor though.

All my experience tells me I am not sensitive to voc's but am deathly

sensitive to mold.

[Guest guest]

--see what your saying robert, I fell the same way, it seams that

everything that gets to me can be traced to molds/toxins. the supposed

allergy's, food allergy's and even most of the MCS irratants(that I've

researched so far) can be traced to mold/mycotoxins, if this is true,

the tiny amount is all it takes. I've said before that I hate putting

names on our illnesses that are other known illnesses as I believe that

we only have " like " symptoms to these illnesses, and ours is one

illness that effects most of our body in several different ways. I like

Dr. Shoemaker calling it " mold illness " . even if other bacteria , rusts

or what ever is envolved, it came from the result of the mold

decomposeing things as it feeds off it, right? so thats part of the

mold illness. when I first took a list of molds exposed to and read

the effects the mycotoxins they produced caused(at mold-help.org) there

the symptoms I had, plain as day. I was positive than and after much

research, Im still positive now. no dought in my mine. being exposoded

in 2 different homes to different main mycotoxins and at different

amounts has proved a lot to

me.

- In

, Christ <antares41-41@...> wrote:

>

> On Fri, 19 May 2006 16:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >-robert, sure sounds like you have become chemical sensative. if you

> >are, a new trailer, with new carpet, glues used on counter tops,

> >things like that are going to make you ill

>

>too.

> >

> Jeanie,

> I think most of the new smell has worn away. I was a little worried

> about that when I first moved in. I don't think it's a factor though.

> All my experience tells me I am not sensitive to voc's but am deathly

> sensitive to mold.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the medical

profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

I really think it's that simple.

On Sat, 20 May 2006 18:40:02 +0000, you wrote:

>--see what your saying robert, I fell the same way, it seams that

>everything that gets to me can be traced to molds/toxins. the supposed

>allergy's, food allergy's and even most of the MCS irratants(that I've

>researched so far) can be traced to mold/mycotoxins, if this is true,

>the tiny amount is all it takes. I've said before that I hate putting

>names on our illnesses that are other known illnesses as I believe that

>we only have " like " symptoms to these illnesses, and ours is one

>illness that effects most of our body in several different ways. I like

>Dr. Shoemaker calling it " mold illness " . even if other bacteria , rusts

>or what ever is envolved, it came from the result of the mold

>decomposeing things as it feeds off it, right? so thats part of the

>mold illness. when I first took a list of molds exposed to and read

>the effects the mycotoxins they produced caused(at mold-help.org) there

>the symptoms I had, plain as day. I was positive than and after much

>research, Im still positive now. no dought in my mine. being exposoded

>in 2 different homes to different main mycotoxins and at different

>amounts has proved a lot to

>me.

> - In

> , Christ <antares41-41@...> wrote:

>>

>> On Fri, 19 May 2006 16:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

>>

>> >-robert, sure sounds like you have become chemical sensative. if you

>> >are, a new trailer, with new carpet, glues used on counter tops,

>> >things like that are going to make you ill

>>

>>too.

>> >

>> Jeanie,

>> I think most of the new smell has worn away. I was a little worried

>> about that when I first moved in. I don't think it's a factor though.

>> All my experience tells me I am not sensitive to voc's but am deathly

>> sensitive to mold.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>FAIR USE NOTICE:

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[Guest guest]

-yes it is that simple. if my doctor would have reconized my first

symptoms, theres no dought I would not be as ill as I am now and

would not have suffered damage to my organs.8 years of hell.and it

doesn't end when you get out. the not so funny thing is that I knew

that something wasn't right and something was causeing these strange

symptoms but because I was the patient and he was the doctor, I

wasn't took serious. grrrr, it pisses me off. and I still believe

that many doctors, if not all of them had to know something about

mold/mycotoxins a long time ago. how long does it take to figure it

out! all these doctors working in these hospitals where people check

in with one illness and die there from something else(like mold) how

long ago was it figured out that operateing tools needed to be

sterle? I'd guess thats about the time that doctors knew that molds

and bacterias could cause infections and death. but gee, what if

prescribed drugs including antibiotics cant touch this and what if

its realized that mold and bacteria causes many diseases of witch the

cause is supposedly unknown. dang, that pill pushing industry would

be s### up a creek and doctors wouldn't get to many pantients if

natural remidies cured all our

illments.

-- In , Christ

<antares41-41@...> wrote:

>

>

> A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the

medical

> profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

> I really think it's that simple.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sat, 20 May 2006 18:40:02 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >--see what your saying robert, I fell the same way, it seams that

> >everything that gets to me can be traced to molds/toxins. the

supposed

> >allergy's, food allergy's and even most of the MCS irratants(that

I've

> >researched so far) can be traced to mold/mycotoxins, if this is

true,

> >the tiny amount is all it takes. I've said before that I hate

putting

> >names on our illnesses that are other known illnesses as I believe

that

> >we only have " like " symptoms to these illnesses, and ours is one

> >illness that effects most of our body in several different ways. I

like

> >Dr. Shoemaker calling it " mold illness " . even if other bacteria ,

rusts

> >or what ever is envolved, it came from the result of the mold

> >decomposeing things as it feeds off it, right? so thats part of

the

> >mold illness. when I first took a list of molds exposed to and

read

> >the effects the mycotoxins they produced caused(at mold-help.org)

there

> >the symptoms I had, plain as day. I was positive than and after

much

> >research, Im still positive now. no dought in my mine. being

exposoded

> >in 2 different homes to different main mycotoxins and at different

> >amounts has proved a lot to

>

>me.

> > - In

> > , Christ <antares41-41@> wrote:

> >>

> >> On Fri, 19 May 2006 16:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

> >>

> >> >-robert, sure sounds like you have become chemical sensative.

if you

> >> >are, a new trailer, with new carpet, glues used on counter

tops,

> >> >things like that are going to make you ill

> >>

>

>>too.

> >> >

> >> Jeanie,

> >> I think most of the new smell has worn away. I was a little

worried

> >> about that when I first moved in. I don't think it's a factor

though.

> >> All my experience tells me I am not sensitive to voc's but am

deathly

> >> sensitive to mold.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Christ wrote:

> A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the medical

profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

I really think it's that simple.

>

They aren't going to do it for you.

Better start checking out those Airstreams.

You've got all summer to get your " plan B " ready.

-

[Guest guest]

I disagree. I feel that it is the building industry. There is an epidemic in

this country, and it

is the buildings rotting out right from under us. If the buildings were made

properly, there

would be very little mold illness for doctors to have to recognise.

The building codes need a drastic change, and it seems there is little financial

incentive for

them to undertake the undoubtedly expensive process.

If the gov't got involved in fixing the problem, maybe it would happen.

>

>

> A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the medical

> profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

> I really think it's that simple.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:49:00 +0000, you wrote:

>

> They aren't going to do it for you.

>Better start checking out those Airstreams.

>You've got all summer to get your " plan B " ready.

>-

I suppose I have to get off of my ass and do something.

50,000 is a lot of cash, I hope it works.

I am scared to bring the trailer back to this park though. Or any

park for that matter. I liked it out in the mountains in North

Carolina.

Florida is just to conducive of an environment for mold. I think I

have to leave this state.

I am thinking about going to North Carolina in the mountains. I

remember you saying that once you reach a certain altitude you get no

more mold hits. I would think it would get sparser the higher you go.

If I leave it all behind this time maybe I can keep from ruining

another brand new trailer.

The other candidate is Arizona on new Mexico or somewhere where it's

dry. I think I read a article here on this list about Arizona having

mold problems of all places though.

[Guest guest]

Christ wrote:

> I suppose I have to get off of my ass and do something.

> 50,000 is a lot of cash, I hope it works.

> I am scared to bring the trailer back to this park though. Or any

> park for that matter. I liked it out in the mountains in North

> Carolina.

> Florida is just to conducive of an environment for mold. I think

I have to leave this state.

I am thinking about going to North Carolina in the mountains. I

remember you saying that once you reach a certain altitude you get

no more mold hits. I would think it would get sparser the higher you

go.

If I leave it all behind this time maybe I can keep from ruining

another brand new trailer.

> The other candidate is Arizona on new Mexico or somewhere where

it's dry. I think I read a article here on this list about Arizona

having mold problems of all places though.

>

I wouldn't recommend buying a new Airstream. I'm talking about

getting an old one, gutting it, and completely redesigning the

interior. Even aluminum trailers aren't mold proof if the

condensation can reach anything that mold can grow on.

I talked to someone who rebuilds Airstreams for MCSers and he said

that even though the ribs are metal, the panel is still too close to

the walls to be mold proof - and he has seen a lot of mold in

conventional Airstreams.

I just looked at an Airstream the other day that had mold on the

foam carpet backing. They can be as bad as anything else, if they

aren't modified.

As for the mountains, I don't see where altitude makes any

difference in terms of mold potential. This stuff is where it is.

I've been through Arizona and parts of Florida, and some places

were OK and others were not. I don't try to predict where mold is.

Been proven wrong too many times. I just " perceptify " it to feel

mold hits, and act accordingly. Like I say, I can live inside Reno

and bicycle to work, but I cannot park in a mold plume specifically.

If that trailer park you are in is suspect, are you sure that the

problem is inside your trailer? I've been forced out of a number of

RV parks, but had no mold growing in my custom-mold-unfriendly RV

and it soon settled down again and felt good when I moved to a safe

zone.

-

[Guest guest]

-thats true too, and I'm sure theres doctor that dont know and

doctors that have been trying to change things too. another factor of

mold is the crop industries and the herbicides they use, round up is

proven to cause fusarium growth in corn, and any other crops its used

on. all countrys need to make serious change now on this may get the

best of us

all.

-- In , " kl_clayton "

<kl_clayton@...> wrote:

>

> I disagree. I feel that it is the building industry. There is an

epidemic in this country, and it

> is the buildings rotting out right from under us. If the buildings

were made properly, there

> would be very little mold illness for doctors to have to recognise.

>

> The building codes need a drastic change, and it seems there is

little financial incentive for

> them to undertake the undoubtedly expensive process.

>

> If the gov't got involved in fixing the problem, maybe it would

happen.

>

> --- In , Christ <antares41-41@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the

medical

> > profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

> > I really think it's that simple.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:19:39 +0000, you wrote:

>I disagree. I feel that it is the building industry. There is an epidemic in

this country, and it

>is the buildings rotting out right from under us. If the buildings were made

properly, there

>would be very little mold illness for doctors to have to recognise.

>

>The building codes need a drastic change, and it seems there is little

financial incentive for

>them to undertake the undoubtedly expensive process.

>

>If the gov't got involved in fixing the problem, maybe it would happen.

>

>

>>

>>

>> A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the medical

>> profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

>> I really think it's that simple.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

But if doctors had only recognized the problem and put out health

bulletins, (which incidentally is their responsibility) the building

industry's, rental property industries, and office building complexes

would have had no choice but to conform. Instead doctors (with the

exception of a few) do the opposite to this day, they generate papers

dispelling mold as a serious health threat and implicating us as slip

and fall artist's with a psychological problem trying to make the big

bucks.

I can't argue your point that if all buildings were only safe than no

one would be sick.

But that's highly unlikely to happen in our lifetimes.

Getting the medical profession to do what we pay them for " diagnosis

and treatment " is possible.

[Guest guest]

Right Onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn :-)

Elvira

Re: [] Re: seeking mold friend

On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:19:39 +0000, you wrote:

>I disagree. I feel that it is the building industry. There is an epidemic in

this country, and it

>is the buildings rotting out right from under us. If the buildings were made

properly, there

>would be very little mold illness for doctors to have to recognise.

>

>The building codes need a drastic change, and it seems there is little

financial incentive for

>them to undertake the undoubtedly expensive process.

>

>If the gov't got involved in fixing the problem, maybe it would happen.

>

>

>>

>>

>> A lot of people could lead close to normal lives if only the medical

>> profession gave us the tools we need to avoid mold exposure.

>> I really think it's that simple.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

But if doctors had only recognized the problem and put out health

bulletins, (which incidentally is their responsibility) the building

industry's, rental property industries, and office building complexes

would have had no choice but to conform. Instead doctors (with the

exception of a few) do the opposite to this day, they generate papers

dispelling mold as a serious health threat and implicating us as slip

and fall artist's with a psychological problem trying to make the big

bucks.

I can't argue your point that if all buildings were only safe than no

one would be sick.

But that's highly unlikely to happen in our lifetimes.

Getting the medical profession to do what we pay them for " diagnosis

and treatment " is possible.

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