Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi , It sounds like she's carrying a lot of emotional stuff around this. Many people do. Many many people have herpes. She would probably benefit from Red's suggestions about Herpes and working on the shame, embarassment and anger that she's carrying. Doing so may help her get some acceptance about the virus and her situation and help her come into a place of wanting to treat it long-term. Or she can try the " quick fixes " and you can let her know that you will be there is they don't succeed. maybe she just needs to run that course before she can accept her situation. I think you can let her know everything you have to offer and how you treat the virus, realistically, and then let her chose what she needs right now. Good luck, Lang, ND Brattleboro, VT Chang wrote: > Hi group, > I have a 35yo female patient who contracted genital herpes 6 months > ago after a one-night stand. She's terribly embarrassed about her > situation and possibly even more shamed that the outbreaks occur on > her upper buttocks. > > I have her on: > BTGs > 1st round of UNDAs: 1, 20, 243 > 3g Vitamin C > L-lysine > monolaurin > lemon balm cream > bioflavonoids > > She's compliant on all this as well as dietary recommendations for > arginine/lysine, but is getting antsy. She is looking for a complete > cure - anything that would rid herself of this " dirty " disease. > Having separated from her husband, her primary concern is not being > able to say that she's " STD Free " to a possible new partner. > > I said that we should have a temporary goal of decreasing outbreaks, > then eventually stopping them altogether. This wasn't enough for her, > as she said she wants to be HSV-free completely without having to ever > worry about transmission to a partner. Like most patients with > genital herpes, she hasn't told anyone about it yet. > > I got a call from her yesterday asking about hydrogen peroxide IVs and > she is seeking to have her blood exposed to ozone and I'm a little > uncertain about what to do. Homeopathic cure is very powerful, but > ethically (and legally), what can I tell her about curing HSV-2 and > being able to have unprotected sex without disclosing the virus to her > partner? She gets uncontrollably weepy when anyone tells her that she > will have this for the rest of her life and that there is no known cure. > > I guess I'm looking for what you would say to a patient who initially > agreed to this treatment, but now wants a quick fix (essentially the > fastest treatment possible) to get rid of a virus that lies dormant in > the nerves. Any remedies call out to you? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > Chang, ND > > > Use Photomail > <http://pa./*http://us.rd./evt=38867/*http://photomail.mail.ya\ hoo.com> > to share photos without annoying attachments. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi - I agree with that is seems like she needs some mental/emotional support around her feelings of shame, guilt etc and accepting the disease. I think Red's suggestion about her herpes handbook etc is excellent ... education, education, education. And then perhaps Undas 9,24, 228 or maybe 4, 24, 228 would go a long ways helping her to accept her situation. I don't know that I would go so far as to tell her there is a " cure " for HSV but... definitely treat with Gemmos - Acer and Platanus and you might be able to eliminate outbreaks. --kms Kathy Sweeney, N.D. Family Practice Juneau, AK >From: Lang <relang21@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: A:HSV-2 Cure? >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:05:50 -0500 > > > > >Hi , > >It sounds like she's carrying a lot of emotional stuff around this. Many > >people do. Many many people have herpes. She would probably benefit > >from Red's suggestions about Herpes and working on the shame, > >embarassment and anger that she's carrying. Doing so may help her get > >some acceptance about the virus and her situation and help her come into > >a place of wanting to treat it long-term. Or she can try the " quick > >fixes " and you can let her know that you will be there is they don't > >succeed. maybe she just needs to run that course before she can accept > >her situation. > > > >I think you can let her know everything you have to offer and how you > >treat the virus, realistically, and then let her chose what she needs > >right now. > > > >Good luck, > > Lang, ND > >Brattleboro, VT > > > > Chang wrote: > > > > > Hi group, > > > I have a 35yo female patient who contracted genital herpes 6 months > > > ago after a one-night stand. She's terribly embarrassed about her > > > situation and possibly even more shamed that the outbreaks occur on > > > her upper buttocks. > > > > > > I have her on: > > > BTGs > > > 1st round of UNDAs: 1, 20, 243 > > > 3g Vitamin C > > > L-lysine > > > monolaurin > > > lemon balm cream > > > bioflavonoids > > > > > > She's compliant on all this as well as dietary recommendations for > > > arginine/lysine, but is getting antsy. She is looking for a complete > > > cure - anything that would rid herself of this " dirty " disease. > > > Having separated from her husband, her primary concern is not being > > > able to say that she's " STD Free " to a possible new partner. > > > > > > I said that we should have a temporary goal of decreasing outbreaks, > > > then eventually stopping them altogether. This wasn't enough for her, > > > as she said she wants to be HSV-free completely without having to ever > > > worry about transmission to a partner. Like most patients with > > > genital herpes, she hasn't told anyone about it yet. > > > > > > I got a call from her yesterday asking about hydrogen peroxide IVs and > > > she is seeking to have her blood exposed to ozone and I'm a little > > > uncertain about what to do. Homeopathic cure is very powerful, but > > > ethically (and legally), what can I tell her about curing HSV-2 and > > > being able to have unprotected sex without disclosing the virus to her > > > partner? She gets uncontrollably weepy when anyone tells her that she > > > will have this for the rest of her life and that there is no known cure. > > > > > > I guess I'm looking for what you would say to a patient who initially > > > agreed to this treatment, but now wants a quick fix (essentially the > > > fastest treatment possible) to get rid of a virus that lies dormant in > > > the nerves. Any remedies call out to you? > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chang, ND > > > > > > > > > Use Photomail > > > ><http://pa./*http://us.rd./evt=38867/*http://photomail.mail.y\ ahoo.com> > > > to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi , I think I am remembering DT using an interesting combination during an acute flare...8 or 9, 33 (to direct treatment to a specific organ) & 710 (thinking of the closed spaces of nerves where the virus resides). I've never tried it but liked the approach. Good luck! Shaun Riddle, ND Calgary, AB --- Kathy Sweeney <kmst07@...> wrote: > Hi - > > I agree with that is seems like she needs some > mental/emotional > support around her feelings of shame, guilt etc and > accepting the disease. > I think Red's suggestion about her herpes handbook > etc is excellent ... > education, education, education. And then perhaps > Undas 9,24, 228 or maybe > 4, 24, 228 would go a long ways helping her to > accept her situation. I > don't know that I would go so far as to tell her > there is a " cure " for HSV > but... definitely treat with Gemmos - Acer and > Platanus and you might be > able to eliminate outbreaks. --kms > > Kathy Sweeney, N.D. > Family Practice > Juneau, AK > > > > >From: Lang <relang21@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: A:HSV-2 Cure? > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:05:50 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Hi , > > > >It sounds like she's carrying a lot of emotional > stuff around this. Many > > > >people do. Many many people have herpes. She would > probably benefit > > > >from Red's suggestions about Herpes and working on > the shame, > > > >embarassment and anger that she's carrying. Doing > so may help her get > > > >some acceptance about the virus and her situation > and help her come into > > > >a place of wanting to treat it long-term. Or she > can try the " quick > > > >fixes " and you can let her know that you will be > there is they don't > > > >succeed. maybe she just needs to run that course > before she can accept > > > >her situation. > > > > > > > >I think you can let her know everything you have to > offer and how you > > > >treat the virus, realistically, and then let her > chose what she needs > > > >right now. > > > > > > > >Good luck, > > > > Lang, ND > > > >Brattleboro, VT > > > > > > > > Chang wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi group, > > > > > I have a 35yo female patient who contracted > genital herpes 6 months > > > > > ago after a one-night stand. She's terribly > embarrassed about her > > > > > situation and possibly even more shamed that the > outbreaks occur on > > > > > her upper buttocks. > > > > > > > > > > I have her on: > > > > > BTGs > > > > > 1st round of UNDAs: 1, 20, 243 > > > > > 3g Vitamin C > > > > > L-lysine > > > > > monolaurin > > > > > lemon balm cream > > > > > bioflavonoids > > > > > > > > > > She's compliant on all this as well as dietary > recommendations for > > > > > arginine/lysine, but is getting antsy. She is > looking for a complete > > > > > cure - anything that would rid herself of this > " dirty " disease. > > > > > Having separated from her husband, her primary > concern is not being > > > > > able to say that she's " STD Free " to a possible > new partner. > > > > > > > > > > I said that we should have a temporary goal of > decreasing outbreaks, > > > > > then eventually stopping them altogether. This > wasn't enough for her, > > > > > as she said she wants to be HSV-free completely > without having to ever > > > > > worry about transmission to a partner. Like > most patients with > > > > > genital herpes, she hasn't told anyone about it > yet. > > > > > > > > > > I got a call from her yesterday asking about > hydrogen peroxide IVs and > > > > > she is seeking to have her blood exposed to > ozone and I'm a little > > > > > uncertain about what to do. Homeopathic cure is > very powerful, but > > > > > ethically (and legally), what can I tell her > about curing HSV-2 and > > > > > being able to have unprotected sex without > disclosing the virus to her > > > > > partner? She gets uncontrollably weepy when > anyone tells her that she > > > > > will have this for the rest of her life and that > there is no known cure. > > > > > > > > > > I guess I'm looking for what you would say to a > patient who initially > > > > > agreed to this treatment, but now wants a quick > fix (essentially the > > > > > fastest treatment possible) to get rid of a > virus that lies dormant in > > > > > the nerves. Any remedies call out to you? > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Chang, ND > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use Photomail > === message truncated === Shaun Riddle, ND Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine #120, 602-12th Ave SW Calgary, AB T2R 1J3 (403) 225-3842 www.drshaunriddle.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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