Re: Re: Anyone else itch underneath their skin/gums...)

May 29, 2006

this is trie. I react now to everything.

Janet

May 29, 2006

I don't think that toxic reactions to molds are necessarily allergies. We

live in a world increasingly saturated with man-made chemicals as well as

the biotoxins in mold. My suspicion is that when its saturated with this

stuff, the body simply says 'No more - its killing me.'

" Its Natures way of telling you somethings wrong " so to speak.

That is what has happened to me, it seems.

May 29, 2006

A few months ago, I was beginning the process of moving out of my moldy

apartment and completely foolishly, I took two long thick sets of wires I

had which had gotten very black from something (it was not direct mold

growth, because these wires were insulated, I think it was particularly

greasy and thick though because they had not been cleaned in a while..they

were behind furniture...) It was in a room which I had found to be the most

reactive room for me at that time..

Anyway, I swabbed some rubbing alcohol on several big pieces of cotton and

used that to clean the black stuff off the wires, wearing gloves for the

first part of the process, but then something happened (phone call, I

think?)

and I am pretty sure I ended up absentmindedly handling the cotton with my

bare hands, because my ears started ringing, then my hands first developed

red spots where the veins go through them on the back, and then turned

*completely* red not long afterward, and that night I woke up and both hands

were completely numb, although I could still move them.

Since then my left arm has been completely screwed up...

Does this sound like an allergic reaction, or something else?

On 5/29/06, erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

>

> LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

> >

> > I don't think that toxic reactions to molds are necessarily

> allergies. We live in a world increasingly saturated with man-made

> chemicals as well as the biotoxins in mold. My suspicion is that when

> its saturated with this stuff, the body simply says 'No more - its

> killing me.<

>

> Right after the preface and on the very first page of Dr. Shoemakers

> book: " Mold Warriors " , there is an important chart depicting

> " The Biotoxin Pathway " which explains the nature of Biotoxin mediated

> illnesses.

> This chart outlines the properties of ionophore toxins for

> binding " Surface (Toll) Receptors " , which in turn causes the

> unregulated release of proinflammatory cytokines which " reprogram "

> immunological responses in genetically susceptible individuals.

> The effects of the chronic inflammation cascade through the

> neuroendocrine system in a sequential progression called: " The

> Biotoxin Pathway " .

> You can trace the " downstream " effects by following the chart.

> The activation of the " innate immune response " by neurotoxins

> is " upstream " of antibody programming, so this chart provides a

> graphic representation of why concepts of classical " allergy " don't

> apply to mycotoxin illness.

> It's partly a matter of " no more " , but even more important, it is a

> matter of " no longer " , explained in chapter 24 " No, It's the immunity,

> Stupid - Innate, Acquired-Both!

> -

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

May 30, 2006

Our people at both DTW (Detroit Tower) and GRR (Grand Rapid) had rashes -- not

all but some. Most were about the size of a quarter or half dollar -- red and

blistery and would leave scars.

I did not develop -- though, what do you all know about ??blothes?? near area

where sideburns are shaves -- I guess most people would call them age spots --

brownish and with some slight rise. I have been told by derma t that it may be

fungal related. Hummm,, just another item to add to the resume.........

tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

Barb,

This burning rash you mentioned, I won't say Sharon had the same

thing, but very similiar. I can't say without seeing pictures. You

can go to www.aspergillus.man.ac.uk/ and they do have several

pictures of rashes and hives. The rash that they show and I do not

have the exact link at this moment, is blood red, about the size of

a pea. Sharon got these when she was still being exposed, they were

located at the back of the knee about a dozen and then more up the

back of the leg and lower buttocks. She would feel the burning from

within before they even appeared and then until they went away. They

went away on their own, but at that time we didn't know what they

were or caused by. When they disappeared they left marks, like

someone took a cigarette to her skin and these scars remained. They

also reappeared several times after re-exposure and if I remember

correctly the cause of these were either from fusarium or

aspergillus. The pictured they showed on the aspergillus website was

identical.

KC

> >

> > It sounds to me like toxin reaction. You remember how many of

> these toxins have

> > neurotoxic effects? Like causing burning and numbness.

> >

>

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May 31, 2006

You should see me if I go to any food stores Restaurants and so on mostly New

Building built in the past 10 years.

WETHEPEOPLE

Elvira

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