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Okay Everyone,

I am in need of help. We have some prelinary test results back. But, the

school is going to use them against me. Penicillium was found inside the

school. There was also trace amounts back in September before the clean up.

But, now the number has grown. Also, there was the same type of mold found

outdoors, with numbers that are close. So, the mold inside could be coming

from the outside. We have not been able to find the mold physically growing

in the school, or in the HVAC which the ducts were cleaned in September.

Each class room runs on it's own furnace unit, then the large unit on the

roof assists. However, it does not seem to recirculate the indoor air from

each room. They have to call and find out how that works, they have no

clue. But, each room does not have air returns. So, for now that is a

mystery. Seems to me that the air just stays in the room and lays stagnant.

Let's pretend that there is just one big air return, which I believe is in

the gym. Problem: the mold is still in the building, which is making my

daughter very sick. They will tomorrow say that there is NO problem because

the same stuff is outside.

I am curious what your responses to this would be. How would you go about

handling this situation. We are needing to find a solution, or a way to

counter back to them. After, we cleaned the mold up last time she was fine

for a few months. So, I know that it is mold making her sick.

Your thoughts, conclusions, suggestions, or the ways you would handle this

would be helpful. My brain is just literally hurting right now. So, your

help will be greatly appreciated.

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As Dr Shoemaker says, the true indicator of a sick building are sick

people.

Need to do his 5 step exposure assessment protocols.

The demonstrable immunological reaction by controlled exposure to the

environment is what makes the case.

They can argue mold exposure data and projected toxicity values for

the rest of eternity, but it's hard to deny when someones C4a goes

shooting through the roof inside a bad building.

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What a great idea! Maybe we could have a member profile each month so

we get to know each other a bit better.

in NC - home from the hospital - doing ok

>

> Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

> thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

> what

> kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

> help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies that

> are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching exercises

> 6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

> information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

> can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

> market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

> up

> with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

> in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

> the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas of

> what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So please

> either post a note about this or send me a email at

> darkstarzz1019@... Also if everyone could send me their

> birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and date

> it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

> month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

> something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

> they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

> be really good information all in one place for people to read and

> we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

> your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the next

> week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

> and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

> asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

> me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

> possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

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What a great idea! Maybe we could have a member profile each month so

we get to know each other a bit better.

in NC - home from the hospital - doing ok

>

> Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

> thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

> what

> kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

> help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies that

> are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching exercises

> 6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

> information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

> can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

> market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

> up

> with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

> in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

> the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas of

> what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So please

> either post a note about this or send me a email at

> darkstarzz1019@... Also if everyone could send me their

> birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and date

> it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

> month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

> something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

> they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

> be really good information all in one place for people to read and

> we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

> your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the next

> week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

> and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

> asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

> me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

> possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

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i like the newsletter idea as the daily reports got to be too much to read. My

Bday is Oct. 25. Thank you for all of your time. My brace is off and i am doing

much better after the 2 surgeries this year. Thanks to all who offered their

advice.

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i like the newsletter idea as the daily reports got to be too much to read. My

Bday is Oct. 25. Thank you for all of your time. My brace is off and i am doing

much better after the 2 surgeries this year. Thanks to all who offered their

advice.

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i really like the idea about the exercises and the one about who will be in

the hospital for surgeries. all of it sounded really good though.

rob sept, 8th, 1974

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Need everyone's help

>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:44:29 -0000

>

>Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

>thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

>what

>kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

>help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies that

>are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching exercises

>6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

>information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

>can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

>market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

>up

>with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

>in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

>the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas of

>what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So please

>either post a note about this or send me a email at

>darkstarzz1019@.... Also if everyone could send me their

>birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and date

>it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

>month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

>something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

>they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

>be really good information all in one place for people to read and

>we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

>your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the next

>week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

>and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

>asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

>me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

>possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

>

>

>

>

>

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i really like the idea about the exercises and the one about who will be in

the hospital for surgeries. all of it sounded really good though.

rob sept, 8th, 1974

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Need everyone's help

>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:44:29 -0000

>

>Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

>thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

>what

>kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

>help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies that

>are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching exercises

>6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

>information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

>can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

>market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

>up

>with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

>in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

>the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas of

>what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So please

>either post a note about this or send me a email at

>darkstarzz1019@.... Also if everyone could send me their

>birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and date

>it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

>month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

>something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

>they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

>be really good information all in one place for people to read and

>we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

>your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the next

>week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

>and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

>asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

>me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

>possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

>

>

>

>

>

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HI SHARON,The idea of a news letter is a good one. One way that you

could get it to everyone would be to form a seperate group just for

the newsletter. That way it could be sent to everyone that wanted to

be a part of it and it wouldn't clog up the group's space or

everyones email box.It should be easy to get those that want to be a

part of it to sign up like they did for the group.

Just an idea I thought that I'd pass on to you for your

consideration.Just my 2 cents worth .

TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE.

LARRY

>

> Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

> thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

> what

> kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

> help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies

that

> are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching

exercises

> 6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

> information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

> can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

> market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

> up

> with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

> in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

> the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas

of

> what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So

please

> either post a note about this or send me a email at

> darkstarzz1019@... Also if everyone could send me their

> birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and

date

> it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

> month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

> something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

> they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

> be really good information all in one place for people to read and

> we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

> your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the

next

> week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

> and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

> asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

> me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

> possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

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HI SHARON,The idea of a news letter is a good one. One way that you

could get it to everyone would be to form a seperate group just for

the newsletter. That way it could be sent to everyone that wanted to

be a part of it and it wouldn't clog up the group's space or

everyones email box.It should be easy to get those that want to be a

part of it to sign up like they did for the group.

Just an idea I thought that I'd pass on to you for your

consideration.Just my 2 cents worth .

TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE.

LARRY

>

> Hello everyone I would like your opinion on an idea I had. I was

> thinking we should have a group newletter, maybe once a month ? And

> what

> kind of information would you like to see in one?? 1)exercises to

> help with your back, 2)ideas for sleeping better,3) new studies

that

> are out, 4)new surgeries for backs and necks 5) stretching

exercises

> 6) yoga or pilates exercises 7)Links to new sites with helpful

> information 8)I'd like to put birthdays for the month in there if I

> can get everyone's. 9) new medicines that are coming out on the

> market 10) even people who have surgery coming up so we could keep

> up

> with who is in the hospital.There are many other things that can go

> in one but mostly I want it to be helpful information to people in

> the group. But I need feedback from everyone so I have some ideas

of

> what you would find helpful in a newsletter for the group. So

please

> either post a note about this or send me a email at

> darkstarzz1019@... Also if everyone could send me their

> birthday, you don't have to include the year just the month and

date

> it would be nice to celebrate peoples birthdays in the group each

> month and put them on the calender. And if anyone came across

> something they thought would be good in the newsletter that month

> they could email it to me so I could include it. I think this would

> be really good information all in one place for people to read and

> we could even put some funny stuff in it too. So everyone I need

> your help on this, please think about it and let me know in the

next

> week or so what you would want to read about in this and I will try

> and get it put together for next month. So I need any October bd's

> asap all you Libra's out there speak up, raise your hands and give

> me a date :) Best wishes to all for as painfree day as

> possible.Sharon Group Owner

>

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HI Larry thanks I hadn't thought of that idea. I do know it won't work

in the post form because there is only so much you can actully put in

one before it says full. The other thing I thought of was just putting

it in a folder and those who wanted to read it could get to it there

or ask me and I'd email it to them. Because I know not everyone knows

alot about computers and finding a folder is not hard but if you don't

know anything about your way around the group it would be. I am still

going to think some more on it since I have a few weeks at least to

come up with a way to do it. Buut thanks for the note I was worried

about everyones mailboxes. Sharon Group Owner

>

> HI SHARON,The idea of a news letter is a good one. One way that you

> could get it to everyone would be to form a seperate group just for

> the newsletter. That way it could be sent to everyone that wanted to

> be a part of it and it wouldn't clog up the group's space or

> everyones email box.It should be easy to get those that want to be a

> part of it to sign up like they did for the group.

> Just an idea I thought that I'd pass on to you for your

> consideration.Just my 2 cents worth .

> TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE.

> LARRY

>

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HI Larry thanks I hadn't thought of that idea. I do know it won't work

in the post form because there is only so much you can actully put in

one before it says full. The other thing I thought of was just putting

it in a folder and those who wanted to read it could get to it there

or ask me and I'd email it to them. Because I know not everyone knows

alot about computers and finding a folder is not hard but if you don't

know anything about your way around the group it would be. I am still

going to think some more on it since I have a few weeks at least to

come up with a way to do it. Buut thanks for the note I was worried

about everyones mailboxes. Sharon Group Owner

>

> HI SHARON,The idea of a news letter is a good one. One way that you

> could get it to everyone would be to form a seperate group just for

> the newsletter. That way it could be sent to everyone that wanted to

> be a part of it and it wouldn't clog up the group's space or

> everyones email box.It should be easy to get those that want to be a

> part of it to sign up like they did for the group.

> Just an idea I thought that I'd pass on to you for your

> consideration.Just my 2 cents worth .

> TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE.

> LARRY

>

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