Re: Air conditioner makeing me sick.

[Guest guest]

>>On Behalf Of Christ

Most air conditioners having set all winter have had ample time to

grow a colony in the drying coils and pan. Now would be a good time

to service them as described above.

Another problem this will solve is the drains that empty the drip pans

often get algae in them and they plug up. By spraying an

antibacterial on your coils it will collect in the pan and run down

the drain you are inadvertently killing the algae in the drain thus

preventing the disaster of the pan overflowing and saturating your

drywall with water. >>

Great report and thanks so much. You are so correct we need to do

maintenance on our A/C systems and the coils periodically to keep them

clean. We have two full systems in our two-story home and I have my year

A/C check-up each Spring.

We had to get new systems, new ducts, etc after our home was damaged in

2002. I asked them to make an opening for me going directly into the drain

lines so I could pour bleach, etc every 3-4 months into the drain lines to

keep them clean and prevent overflow.

Week or so ago had my Spring checkup. The technician reported our systems

are very clean, blew out the drain lines with pressure and then he did

something totally uncalled for. He put 2/3rds of a bottle of concentrated

bleach directly into the coils. Within minutes my entire house was full of

Clorox. Whatever goes into the coils goes into the system, into the ducts

and air vents into the home. I had a major reaction from Clorox (was

poisoned by it a few years ago major overdose). No need to go into the

details of my reaction and all I did.

The technician was horrified when he saw me reacting and immediately went

upstairs into the attic to remove the covering to the coils and start

flushing with massive amounts of water. He kept apologizing and said he'll

never do this again in another home after seeing my reaction. He also stated

many like the " clean " smell of Clorox (but then people like the " new car "

smell not realizing what chemicals they are smelling). He said he would

also advise his supervisors to warn the technicians to ask before putting

bleach into the coils. Seems to be standard maintenance down here; or at

least with the company.

Bottom line if we have sensitivities, compromised bodies, multiple chemical

sensitivities, respiratory problems, etc we need to be very careful what

goes into our coils.

My vehicle had mold in the A/C system and our Carl Grimes taught me what to

use and it works perfectly. Will use the GSE in the A/C system every 3

months as a preventative and I might suggest to the A/C Technician next year

to do the same with our home A/C coils. Perhaps the GSE mixed with a mild

detergent could be safely applied to the coils and then rinsed with water.

Just my thoughts; would love one of our experts to give their

recommendations on this subject.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Rosie,

Not only did the HVAC tech violate NADCA ACR2002 thru 2006 standards

for duct cleaning, but he violated EPA FIFRA law. Chlorox is not

registered with the EPA for application in forced air ducts or A/C

coils. Only a few products are and the label (which is the law)

specifies HOW they are to be used. One of the few companies that have

chemicals with EPA registration for A/C coils is BBJ Environmental

http://www.bbjenviro.com/

These are not solvent or other chemically based but are still

" chemicals " so care should be used. Most can tolerate but not all.

Note also that EPA says they are to be applied only AFTER the coils

and associated componnents have been cleaned. They are not intended

to do the cleaning.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> >>On Behalf Of Christ

> Most air conditioners having set all winter have had ample time to

> grow a colony in the drying coils and pan. Now would be a good time

> to service them as described above.

>

> Another problem this will solve is the drains that empty the drip pans

> often get algae in them and they plug up. By spraying an

> antibacterial on your coils it will collect in the pan and run down

> the drain you are inadvertently killing the algae in the drain thus

> preventing the disaster of the pan overflowing and saturating your

> drywall with water. >>

>

> Great report and thanks so much. You are so correct we need to

> do maintenance on our A/C systems and the coils periodically to keep

> them clean. We have two full systems in our two-story home and I have

> my year A/C check-up each Spring.

>

> We had to get new systems, new ducts, etc after our home was damaged

> in 2002. I asked them to make an opening for me going directly into

> the drain lines so I could pour bleach, etc every 3-4 months into the

> drain lines to keep them clean and prevent overflow.

>

> Week or so ago had my Spring checkup. The technician reported our

> systems are very clean, blew out the drain lines with pressure and

> then he did something totally uncalled for. He put 2/3rds of a bottle

> of concentrated bleach directly into the coils. Within minutes my

> entire house was full of Clorox. Whatever goes into the coils goes

> into the system, into the ducts and air vents into the home. I had a

> major reaction from Clorox (was poisoned by it a few years ago major

> overdose). No need to go into the details of my reaction and all I

> did.

>

> The technician was horrified when he saw me reacting and immediately

> went upstairs into the attic to remove the covering to the coils and

> start flushing with massive amounts of water. He kept apologizing and

> said he'll never do this again in another home after seeing my

> reaction. He also stated many like the " clean " smell of Clorox (but

> then people like the " new car " smell not realizing what chemicals they

> are smelling). He said he would also advise his supervisors to warn

> the technicians to ask before putting bleach into the coils. Seems to

> be standard maintenance down here; or at least with the company.

>

> Bottom line if we have sensitivities, compromised bodies, multiple

> chemical sensitivities, respiratory problems, etc we need to be very

> careful what goes into our coils.

>

> My vehicle had mold in the A/C system and our Carl Grimes taught me

> what to use and it works perfectly. Will use the GSE in the A/C

> system every 3 months as a preventative and I might suggest to the A/C

> Technician next year to do the same with our home A/C coils. Perhaps

> the GSE mixed with a mild detergent could be safely applied to the

> coils and then rinsed with water.

>

> Just my thoughts; would love one of our experts to give their

> recommendations on this subject.

> Rosie

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>Week or so ago had my Spring checkup. The technician reported our systems

>are very clean, blew out the drain lines with pressure and then he did

>something totally uncalled for. He put 2/3rds of a bottle of concentrated

>bleach directly into the coils. Within minutes my entire house was full of

>Clorox. Whatever goes into the coils goes into the system, into the ducts

>and air vents into the home. I had a major reaction from Clorox (was

>poisoned by it a few years ago major overdose). No need to go into the

>details of my reaction and all I did.

Sounds like he had no idea what he was doing. Just a few ounces of

bleach in a pint of water would have done the same thing.

>

>The technician was horrified when he saw me reacting and immediately went

>upstairs into the attic to remove the covering to the coils and start

>flushing with massive amounts of water. He kept apologizing and said he'll

>never do this again in another home after seeing my reaction. He also stated

>many like the " clean " smell of Clorox (but then people like the " new car "

>smell not realizing what chemicals they are smelling). He said he would

>also advise his supervisors to warn the technicians to ask before putting

>bleach into the coils. Seems to be standard maintenance down here; or at

>least with the company.

even before I got sick ten years ago, even as a kid I hated prolonged

exposure to bleach, it gave me a headache. I can relate to the clean

smell though when all of the fumes have cleared out.

>

>Bottom line if we have sensitivities, compromised bodies, multiple chemical

>sensitivities, respiratory problems, etc we need to be very careful what

>goes into our coils.

If anyone knows of an antibacterial/mold killing solvent approved for

use in evaporator coils I would love to know what it is. Until than I

am going to take my chances with the mild bleach solution or ammonia.

I use an exhaust fan while I am applicating it to the coils.

I think Jeff's post on having the proper filtration is the most

logical solution to the problem though. I am going to try to figure

out a way to modify my cheesy filter.

>

>My vehicle had mold in the A/C system and our Carl Grimes taught me what to

>use and it works perfectly. Will use the GSE in the A/C system every 3

>months as a preventative and I might suggest to the A/C Technician next year

>to do the same with our home A/C coils. Perhaps the GSE mixed with a mild

>detergent could be safely applied to the coils and then rinsed with water.

What is GSE?