Re: Diet Soda (Lengthy Article)

[Guest guest]

I completely one hundred percent agree about the second part how diet coke

disprupts satiety. I have no proof, yet I am so sure of it. It makes me

hungrier, so

even though I love it I try to limit it, BUT, BUT , BUT--- the part about how an

artificial

sweetener elicits an insulin spike is news to me. If anyone has heard that news

before, please say so, because I use plenty of artificial sweetner. But I really

don't

think that it hinders fat loss, just might make you more hungrier.

-jojo (puzzled)

> Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on your fat

loss

efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight. There are two main

reasons for

the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin

spike,

which blocks your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

Diet Coke

disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full.

[Guest guest]

" might make you more hungrier " .

> -jojo (puzzled)

I can't believe I just wrote " more hungrier " . I just get crazy stupid when it

comes to

diet soda....

[Guest guest]

Dont believe everything you read, especially with no scientific

backup. Most reliable articles list its source, studies, and related

materials at the end. This article is like an urban legend that wont

go away and circulates around weightloss websites. The real deal is

that diet sodas (and artificial sweetners) may be a tool to help

people lose weight - and we know that excess weight is a REAL health

problem for millions. And what they said about fruit? OMG! FIBER! is

the key to fatloss and fruits have lots of it - dont drop fruits

because of the natural sugars in them! Be conscience of how quickly

they add up in calories(mmmm fruit salad and fatfree coolwhip!) just

remember, balance/moderation in healthy food choices, not

eliminating them.

Back to the articles claims - in medical studies, 'sweet taste' by

artificial sweetners does NOT ellicit an insulin spike - nor have

they ANY effect on blood sugar or insulin at all - and do not

hinder, in fact assist, in loss of bodyfat by substituting for the

carbs/calories of sugar.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=9062523 & dopt=Abstract

(Hope that link works - gremlins usually wrap it around an

advertisement and cut off long URLs.)

With the average American now consuming over 142 POUNDS of sugar in

a year, I think its safe to say its the SUGAR nad not the sugar

substituters that are keeping us fat! Read up on how sugars are

hidden in just about everything, how to sort them out,how your body

uses them or stores them, and what the alternative sweetners are:

http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/sugar.html

<<joni>>

*knowledge is empowering yourself to stop the insanity of dieting

[Guest guest]

And I was wondering how diabetics could drink diet soda without

> repercussions if it caused an insulin spike? Thanks Joni, for a voice of

> reason!

>

Excellent point lydia!!!!

[Guest guest]

I was a diet pepsi junky...but I am trying to wean myself off

caffine *sniff* I am a major coffee lover. Anyway, I took to

drinking diet rite, its made with splenda. Also shasta grapefruit

soda has splenda as well...AND very good

> I read this article from AtoZ Fitness Newsletter. Any thoughts

from the group as to validity? Kind of bums me out to think I'm

drinking fake soda for nothing. Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> Diet Coke is a Joke

>

> By Shane Ellison M.Sc.

>

> 2004

>

>

> Countless numbers of dieters consume Diet Coke thinking that it is

inert to their diet efforts. After all, it's called Diet Coke,

right? Wrong!

>

>

> Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on

your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight.

There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the

sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks

your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Combined, the

actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle. Understanding

why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.

>

> When it comes to losing fat, it is more about how much sugar (or

sugar substitute) you consume rather than calories or dietary fat

intake. Hence, the goal is to consume as little sugar or sugar

substitute as possible (including fruits and their juices). Why? The

sweet flavor elicits the release of insulin from the pancreas to

enhance the uptake of sugar by the cells so that it doesn't linger

in the bloodstream. Once insulin is released it inhibits your fat

burning hormone called HSL (hormone sensitive lipase). This hormone

is responsible for releasing fat into the bloodstream to be utilized

as fuel. If inhibited, your body is unable to burn fat and will then

begin utilizing amino acids (from muscle) and carbohydrates as fuel.

This will leave you feeling tired, grumpy, and sloth-like toward the

end of the day. Not to mention, you will become abnormally hungry.

Those with large amounts of HSL burn fat all day and look thin and

slim. Those who inhibit it by eating or drinking the wrong

substances grow fat throughout their adult years.

>

> Second, as discovered by Professor Terry son and associate

professor Withers at Purdue University, artificial sweeteners

disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Their results,

published in International Journal of Obesity showed that " mouth

feel " plays a crucial role in the body's ability to count calories

and that when we consume artificial sweeteners we disrupt the body's

ability to count calories based on sweetness. Not able to use mouth

feel to count calories, those who drink diet coke will overeat

without conscious awareness. In other words, you think you're not

eating like a pig, but in reality you are.

>

>

>

>

>

> Diet Coke is not the only substance having these abilities.

Makers of health food bars and protein supplements are either not

aware or ignore the ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar.

This can be seen by the fact that most every health food bar and

protein supplement is loaded with sugar or artificial sweeteners.

The belief that these bars and supplements are healthy for you is a

perfect example of how marketing strategies can supersede medical

science and common sense.

>

>

> In closing, Diet Coke is a joke. Stay away from it and other sugar

sources if you're serious about losing fat and keeping it off

forever. Regardless of your diet and/or training efforts, the

aforementioned ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar will

greatly hinder them.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if it's just me, but I don't find the caffeine-versions

of sodas that different. I usually buy a case of diet pepsi and a

case of caffeine free diet pepsi for the days I overdo it with my

coffee...give it a try! Oh yeah, Diet Rite is good also, but I see

that you know that )

Good luck!

> > I read this article from AtoZ Fitness Newsletter. Any thoughts

> from the group as to validity? Kind of bums me out to think I'm

> drinking fake soda for nothing. Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Diet Coke is a Joke

> >

> > By Shane Ellison M.Sc.

> >

> > 2004

> >

> >

> > Countless numbers of dieters consume Diet Coke thinking that it

is

> inert to their diet efforts. After all, it's called Diet Coke,

> right? Wrong!

> >

> >

> > Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc

on

> your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain

weight.

> There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the

> sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks

> your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

> Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Combined,

the

> actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle.

Understanding

> why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.

> >

> > When it comes to losing fat, it is more about how much sugar (or

> sugar substitute) you consume rather than calories or dietary fat

> intake. Hence, the goal is to consume as little sugar or sugar

> substitute as possible (including fruits and their juices). Why?

The

> sweet flavor elicits the release of insulin from the pancreas to

> enhance the uptake of sugar by the cells so that it doesn't linger

> in the bloodstream. Once insulin is released it inhibits your fat

> burning hormone called HSL (hormone sensitive lipase). This

hormone

> is responsible for releasing fat into the bloodstream to be

utilized

> as fuel. If inhibited, your body is unable to burn fat and will

then

> begin utilizing amino acids (from muscle) and carbohydrates as

fuel.

> This will leave you feeling tired, grumpy, and sloth-like toward

the

> end of the day. Not to mention, you will become abnormally

hungry.

> Those with large amounts of HSL burn fat all day and look thin and

> slim. Those who inhibit it by eating or drinking the wrong

> substances grow fat throughout their adult years.

> >

> > Second, as discovered by Professor Terry son and associate

> professor Withers at Purdue University, artificial

sweeteners

> disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Their results,

> published in International Journal of Obesity showed that " mouth

> feel " plays a crucial role in the body's ability to count calories

> and that when we consume artificial sweeteners we disrupt the

body's

> ability to count calories based on sweetness. Not able to use

mouth

> feel to count calories, those who drink diet coke will overeat

> without conscious awareness. In other words, you think you're not

> eating like a pig, but in reality you are.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Diet Coke is not the only substance having these abilities.

> Makers of health food bars and protein supplements are either not

> aware or ignore the ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar.

> This can be seen by the fact that most every health food bar and

> protein supplement is loaded with sugar or artificial sweeteners.

> The belief that these bars and supplements are healthy for you is

a

> perfect example of how marketing strategies can supersede medical

> science and common sense.

> >

> >

> > In closing, Diet Coke is a joke. Stay away from it and other

sugar

> sources if you're serious about losing fat and keeping it off

> forever. Regardless of your diet and/or training efforts, the

> aforementioned ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar will

> greatly hinder them.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Why does it only mention DIET COKE. What about saying all diet sodas?

I gave up soda 100% when I started this challenge. I don't miss it

one bit. I was not impressed by all the fructose in it. Yuck! I drink

1-2 glasses of crystal lite tea per day to get the caffine that is a

natural fat burner. I use some splenda to sweeten it.

> I read this article from AtoZ Fitness Newsletter. Any thoughts

from the group as to validity? Kind of bums me out to think I'm

drinking fake soda for nothing. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I understand why this might cause folks to take notice. All I've

ever heard about diet soda actually doing is triggering cravings in

some BFLers. I haven't noticed any difficulty in my own ability to

keep fat off but I really have no frame of reference because there

was never a time I wasn't a diet soda drinker. Don't give the

article too much credo. Keep a weekly calorie deficit. That will be

the cornerstone of fat burning.

Stasia