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I was reading through the database for this group and noticed that someone was

looking

for tomato leaf. That's probably from a long time ago but I'm ordering tomato

leaf

absolute from New Directions (newdirectionsaromatics.com) in case you are still

looking.

Also, thanks to all the people who responded to my questions about this company!

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Rose <certellier@...> wrote: Does anyone know where I can get some

tomato leaf absolute? New

Directions seems to be perpetually out-of-stock

Rose

Hi Rose

If you are in the US you could try one of their outlets global ie Australia,

UK ... they might have some in stock....

HTH

Every good wish, Janita

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> I've often wondered about tomato leaf....it's poisonous...so how can it

> be safe to use in perfumery?

>

> Ambrosia

>

In the same way that tobacco absolute can be used... nicotine is

highly poisonous and highly absorbable through the skin, so

manufacturers remove it. I don't know about their processes, but they

also remove the toxic alkaloids in tomato leaf (one of the

nightshades) during processing. I guess that the toxic componants of

these plants are alcohol-soluble. Alas, that's why tincturing them

can be dangerous.

It's also interesting to note that castor beans are poisonous, but the

oil derived from them isn't. The toxic components must not be

oil-soluble. Anyway, hope this helps. G'night,

Rose

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>

> Does anyone know where I can get some tomato leaf absolute? New

> Directions seems to be perpetually out-of-stock, and I've never seen

> it for sale anywhere else. Or perhaps someone out there has excess

> they would like to get rid of? It's one of my very favorite scents,

> and it's killing me that I can't tincture it!! (alkaloid content...

> don't want to kill myself!) Thanks a lot,

>

> Rose

>

just ran across it at wellnaturally.com in BC, Canada

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>just ran across it at wellnaturally.com in BC, Canada

Hello ,

Thought I would give you and others on this group a heads up about Well

Naturally. I had a very bad experience with her last year. I ordered 5

pounds of dried Orange blossoms from her and she never shipped them to me.

Months of emailing and excuses went on between me and her and she basically

gave me the run around the whole time. I don't think she ever even had

Orange Blossoms in stock for sale to begin with. I highly suspect she is

having financial difficulties. In the end, I had to contact my credit card

company and go through the charge back process which entailed a lot more of

my time and energy. Therefore, I hope you and other list members think

carefully before doing business with her.

Mark

Renaissance Aromas, Inc.

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> Hello ,

>

> Thought I would give you and others on this group a heads up about Well

> Naturally. I had a very bad experience with her last year. I ordered 5

> pounds of dried Orange blossoms from her and she never shipped them to me.

> Months of emailing and excuses went on between me and her and she basically

gave me the run around the whole time. I don't think she ever even had Orange

Blossoms in stock for sale to begin with. I highly suspect she is having

financial difficulties. In the end, I had to contact my credit card company

and go through the charge back process which entailed a lot more of my time and

energy. Therefore, I hope you and other list members think carefully before

doing business with her.

>

> Mark

> Renaissance Aromas, Inc.

Thank you thank you thank you!

I will NEVER do business with Well, Naturally again.

I went through exactly the same ordeal with her last summer. Email

after email for 6 WEEKS with no response from her! I called her in

the middle of this and got " That's been shipped. I will send you a

tracking number right away, " then a hurried " sorry and goodbye " *CLICK*

Never saw a package or heard anything from her again. Two weeks later I called

my credit card and had them reverse the charges.

After years of working in customer service and running my own business I have

learned this: I don't care what kind of hot water you're in, you DON'T treat

your customers like that (unless you want your

business to fail miserably). I would have been fine waiting a little

bit longer for the items I ordered if I had had some explanation. As

far as I can tell, the woman is running a scam. Charging my card and

then blatantly lying to me about shipment on my package. Even if

you're having a hard time, that's totally unethical.

I would advise everyone to order from a reputable supplier -- and

steer clear of Well, Naturally.

Ok, I'm through with my rant. Thanks for listening!

Rose

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Rose <certellier@...> wrote: >

> Hello ,

>

> Thought I would give you and others on this group a heads up about Well

> Naturally. I had a very bad experience with her last year. I ordered 5

> pounds of dried Orange blossoms from her and she never shipped them to me.

> Months of emailing and excuses went on between me and her and she basically

gave me the run around the whole time. I don't think she ever even had Orange

Blossoms in stock for sale to begin with. I highly suspect she is having

financial difficulties. In the end, I had to contact my credit card company and

go through the charge back process which entailed a lot more of my time and

energy. Therefore, I hope you and other list members think carefully before

doing business with her.

>

> Mark

> Renaissance Aromas, Inc.

Thank you thank you thank you!

I will NEVER do business with Well, Naturally again.

I went through exactly the same ordeal with her last summer. Email

after email for 6 WEEKS with no response from her! I called her in

the middle of this and got " That's been shipped. I will send you a

tracking number right away, " then a hurried " sorry and goodbye " *CLICK*

Never saw a package or heard anything from her again. Two weeks later I called

my credit card and had them reverse the charges.

After years of working in customer service and running my own business I have

learned this: I don't care what kind of hot water you're in, you DON'T treat

your customers like that (unless you want your

business to fail miserably). I would have been fine waiting a little

bit longer for the items I ordered if I had had some explanation. As

far as I can tell, the woman is running a scam. Charging my card and

then blatantly lying to me about shipment on my package. Even if

you're having a hard time, that's totally unethical.

I would advise everyone to order from a reputable supplier -- and

steer clear of Well, Naturally.

Ok, I'm through with my rant. Thanks for listening!

Rose

Hi and Rose

Shouldn't she be reported? Her conduct is unacceptable and shouldn't be

allowed to continue... Here is just two examples from you two.. how many more

people has she duped. Do you guys over there have something like a better

business bureau or some thing that can report spams like this?

It's great to know at least the people here on the group will be safe thanks

to letting us know about it....

Every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume http://www.hayspace.co.uk temp new tba

Project http://www.flowersofmyddfaiproject.blogspot.com

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Hi and Rose

Shouldn't she be reported? Her conduct is unacceptable and shouldn't be allowed

to continue... Here is just two examples from you two.. how many more people has

she duped. Do you guys over there have something like a better business bureau

or some thing that can report spams like this?

It's great to know at least the people here on the group will be safe thanks to

letting us know about it....

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Shouldn't she be reported? Her conduct is unacceptable and

shouldn't be allowed to continue... Here is just two examples from you

two.. how many more people has she duped. Do you guys over there have something

like a better business bureau or some thing that can report spams like this?

>

> It's great to know at least the people here on the group will be

safe thanks to letting us know about it....

>

> Every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume http://www.hayspace.co.uk

I'm not sure how one would go about that. I think she is based in

Canada, and I live in Michigan. We have a BBB to report to but I

don't know about the great white north.

I normally don't report things like this to the authorities anyway

(more like, I always mean to but never get around to it). The

universe will kick you in the ass if you're screwing up. She will

hopefully get the message anyway when she loses her customers -- and when we

have conversations like these that prevent her from gaining new ones.

By the way, I think I sounded more vicious than I meant to in my post

about her. I'm sure she's not a terrible person, but you're right...

she can't continue this nonsense.

Has anyone else had any experience with her, positive or negative?

Rose

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--- Jaqueline <j_er04@...> wrote:

> Hi and Rose

>

> Shouldn't she be reported? Her conduct is

> unacceptable and shouldn't be allowed to continue...

> Here is just two examples from you two.. how many

> more people has she duped. Do you guys over there

> have something like a better business bureau or some

> thing that can report spams like this?

>

> It's great to know at least the people here on the

> group will be safe thanks to letting us know about

> it....

>

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Hi

Patty, NP Moderator here.

Sorry about this. It looks like your message was

edited because you top-posted. Only thing is they left

out YOUR part of the message. So here it is ( I hope

this is OK to re-post it, since I've never had to do

this before):

Janita <heartinmymouth@...> wrote: Hi Rose

& ..

Jackie from Livermore, Calif. here..

I am sorry you had to go through this...I have ben

through a similar

situation before(different individual) and I can

relate to what

happened to you. I've been reading your unpleasant

experiencies with this

" supplier " ...very upseting to my stomach I can say!

One thing I am glad:

you got your money back on your credit card :o)

Yes, I agree, this " smells " fishy... " scampy scam " .

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