Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hi all -- I'm new to this group and relatively new to drainage, and am so excited to learn more about UNDA's. I feel like I'm on an island! I'm working with a 37 year old woman with a long history of digestive difficulties -- basically, IBS type symptoms. Over the past several years we've done several rounds of oral chelation (she had high mercury and lead), antimicrobial/GI healing protocols, digestive enzymes, problotics, and all kinds of adrenal support. She always gets a bit better for a short while, then goes back to where she initially was. Several months ago we did her first drainage protocol of UNDA 3, 20, 43. She had an aggravation that lasted about a week, then felt much better. We followed up with UNDA 2, 17, 258 and she complained of pain in her left kidney area, as well as lots of joint pains. Also her digestion was quite sluggish after she stopped the drops. We then did Unda 1, 20, 243 and she claimed she didn't feel much movement. Next was 6, 2, 24 -- bowels improved, skin worsened. Her stress response, which usually is explosive bowel movements, virtually disappeared! But she is still having bloating and looser stools overall. Then 3, 14, 50. She complained of a bitter taste in her mouth while on the drops and now low back/kidney pain and increased frequency of stool. I know that a lot of this is emotional for her, so my question is at what point should I move from the " obvious " organs -- liver, kidney, colon -- to the brain/emotional sphere? I'm thinking that her kidneys may need some more work, but I'm not quite clear where to go from here. I also think 24 is a good number for her. Her chiropractor, who I work with frequently, thinks that the center of her imbalance has moved from her pancreas to her stomach. I can't figure out how to get on top of this bloating once and for all, and to calm down her anxiety about it all. I don't have a lot of experience with UNDA prescribing yet, so I don't know if I'm putting together the numbers in the most meaningful or useful way. Looking forward to your input! Tara Levy, ND Concord and Berkeley, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 When I feel like conditions are emotional, I might add 24 or 9 to a set of remedies. I have had one patient that in between her sets of undas, she always keeps 24 on hand in case she has stomach upset from emotions and she uses it as needed and I don't mind her doing that. Also, I like to have people make a tea with equal parts lemon balm, passion flower, and St. 's wort and drink 3 cups daily. This really tends to settle down the nervous system and anyone with emotional complaints can get through their unda's easier without aggravation and with more positive results. Jessie Black, N.D.Family Practice, Chronic DiseaseA Family Healing Center, LLC2270 NE Mc Ln. Suite AMcMinnville, OR 97128Phone: (503) 883-0333 Fax: (503) 883-0330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hi Tara, I know that you hae bee working with her for a while but I'm not if she is doing the BTG's- often doing consistent foundational work will stablize the person and allivated aggrevations in a way that sheds light on the direction of the UNDA's- otherwise it is easy to just chase symptoms. Getting off of gluten could be helpful as well as ficus carica Nina Paroo Seattle WA chronic diseaseTara Levy <drtarand@...> wrote: Hi all -- I'm new to this group and relatively new to drainage, and am so excited to learn more about UNDA's. I feel like I'm on an island! I'm working with a 37 year old woman with a long history of digestive difficulties -- basically, IBS type symptoms. Over the past several years we've done several rounds of oral chelation (she had high mercury and lead), antimicrobial/GI healing protocols, digestive enzymes, problotics, and all kinds of adrenal support. She always gets a bit better for a short while, then goes back to where she initially was. Several months ago we did her first drainage protocol of UNDA 3, 20, 43. She had an aggravation that lasted about a week, then felt much better. We followed up with UNDA 2, 17, 258 and she complained of pain in her left kidney area, as well as lots of joint pains. Also her digestion was quite sluggish after she stopped the drops. We then did Unda 1, 20, 243 and she claimed she didn't feel much movement. Next was 6, 2, 24 -- bowels improved, skin worsened. Her stress response, which usually is explosive bowel movements, virtually disappeared! But she is still having bloating and looser stools overall. Then 3, 14, 50. She complained of a bitter taste in her mouth while on the drops and now low back/kidney pain and increased frequency of stool. I know that a lot of this is emotional for her, so my question is at what point should I move from the "obvious" organs -- liver, kidney, colon -- to the brain/emotional sphere? I'm thinking that her kidneys may need some more work, but I'm not quite clear where to go from here. I also think 24 is a good number for her. Her chiropractor, who I work with frequently, thinks that the center of her imbalance has moved from her pancreas to her stomach. I can't figure out how to get on top of this bloating once and for all, and to calm down her anxiety about it all. I don't have a lot of experience with UNDA prescribing yet, so I don't know if I'm putting together the numbers in the most meaningful or useful way. Looking forward to your input! Tara Levy, ND Concord and Berkeley, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Try the classic Dan Maust squashF7/CP5/g/F8/CP6 (broca's and wernicke's areas on both sides), inhibiting the whole band.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM, mtlindsey2002 <mtlindsey@...> wrote: Hello Pete and others, I could use some input on the following case: 20 year old female with history of depression and dissociation --both of these have responded well to nft. However she also reports: " I wanted to tell you about school. When I'm doing homework for example, it takes me a long time to finish something. I feel so scatter brained and its hard to put things together. I was working on an assignment today and its really easy and i know i can do it but its now past midnight and I've only written two sentences. I know what I want to write but I just can't get it out or put everything together. All the info will just float around in my head and I get overwhelmed. There's a lot of good stuff in there but its hard to get it on paper or verbalize it. It feels kinda like trying to live somewhere where u don't know the language. P.S, this e mail took me half an hour to write even though I already knew want I wanted to say " She has high amplitudes of 2-7hz waves. No history of head injury or TBI--dissociation due to invasive medical procedures when age 3 - 5 years old. -- I have started training her at F7 inhibiting 2-10 and 23-38 while rewarding 15-20--I would appreciate ideas. Thank you. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hi Pete, Pardon me for breaking in here. By "the whole band" do you mean 2-38Hz? Jill Re: help with case Try the classic Dan Maust squashF7/CP5/g/F8/CP6 (broca's and wernicke's areas on both sides), inhibiting the whole band.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlcgmailhttp://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM, mtlindsey2002 <mtlindseyca (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Hello Pete and others,I could use some input on the following case: 20 year old female with historyof depression and dissociation --both of these have responded well to nft.However she also reports:"I wanted to tell you about school. When I'm doing homework for example, ittakes me a long time to finish something. I feel so scatter brained and its hardto put things together. I was working on an assignment today and its really easyand i know i can do it but its now past midnight and I've only written twosentences. I know what I want to write but I just can't get it out or puteverything together. All the info will just float around in my head and I getoverwhelmed. There's a lot of good stuff in there but its hard to get it onpaper or verbalize it. It feels kinda like trying to live somewhere where udon't know the language. P.S, this e mail took me half an hour to write eventhough I already knew want I wanted to say"She has high amplitudes of 2-7hz waves. No history of head injury orTBI--dissociation due to invasive medical procedures when age 3 - 5 years old.-- I have started training her at F7 inhibiting 2-10 and 23-38 while rewarding15-20--I would appreciate ideas. Thank you. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Yep.-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Jill Ripley <voyager@...> wrote: Hi Pete, Pardon me for breaking in here. By " the whole band " do you mean 2-38Hz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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