Protein Powders

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Mara,

I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to that either. They have been good

about responding to my e-mails, so maybe they'll get back with soon.

[Guest guest]

and ,

Does the protein from the Protein Factory have aspartame in it? I tried

a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com (you can order individual samples

to find the ones you like) and found about 3 that were okay. However,

I won't use artificial sweetners (sweet and low or equal) so I am stuck

with fewer options (mostly stevia). Maybe your powder would be an option.

Thanks for the info,

Mara

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I am not sure but I e.mailed them this morning to see if they had nutrition

information so I'll let you know.

Re: Protein powders

> and ,

> Does the protein from the Protein Factory have aspartame in it? I tried

> a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com (you can order individual samples

> to find the ones you like) and found about 3 that were okay. However,

> I won't use artificial sweetners (sweet and low or equal) so I am stuck

> with fewer options (mostly stevia). Maybe your powder would be an option.

>

> Thanks for the info,

> Mara

>

>

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Mara,

I just checked the web site and this is one thing it said:

Our proteins are pure, without any added ingredients such as sweeteners,

flavorings, and confectionery ingredients.

That would lead me to believe they do not add anything. The one that I

ordered (which told me to order I should say) says it is 95% protein

and is virtually fat free (I think it said it is 1% fat). I would still

like to know the percentage of sugar (natural I assume) and calories if they

have it. If they get back to me I'll still let you know.

Re: Protein powders

>

>

> > and ,

> > Does the protein from the Protein Factory have aspartame in it? I tried

> > a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com (you can order individual samples

> > to find the ones you like) and found about 3 that were okay. However,

> > I won't use artificial sweetners (sweet and low or equal) so I am stuck

> > with fewer options (mostly stevia). Maybe your powder would be an

option.

> >

> > Thanks for the info,

> > Mara

> >

> >

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Dear Mara, I checked out that site and you have the option of adding

any sweetner you choose or have none at all although they don't

recommend that, their choice is Splenda, but they do have stevia also.

Check it out were you design your own blend.

Hope that helps.

Marjory

Re: Protein powders

> and ,

> Does the protein from the Protein Factory have aspartame in it? I

tried

> a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com (you can order individual

samples

> to find the ones you like) and found about 3 that were okay.

However,

> I won't use artificial sweetners (sweet and low or equal) so I am

stuck

> with fewer options (mostly stevia). Maybe your powder would be an

option.

>

> Thanks for the info,

> Mara

>

>

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In a message dated 10/23/04 12:20:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jp2@... writes:

> Generally I am 'NT nazi' and can tell this is denatured food

_____

~~~~~> What is the definition of " denatured food " ? I've seen Sally use the

phrase in print, but I'm only aware of " denaturation " referring to protein

denaturation, in which case cooked meat would be denatured, while a low-temp

dehydrated protein powder wouldn't be.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them

make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of

the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for

those

who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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,

I once had a doctor " prescribe " protein powder to me to help put on weight

(I have never been able to keep on weight). At the time I was 22, and a

wopping 90 lbs. It made me lose weight.... I have touched it in a long time.

I found that REAL healthy food helps me keep the weight on, and recently I

have discovered that raw foods actually help me put weight on. Just taking

out grains, and adding raw produce, I am now weighing in at 112, at the age

of 34, with three kids... I can't wait to get raw dairy... I think a

substantial amount of raw fat (cream, butter, and whole milk) will help

bring that up a few more pounds. I have been trying to get up to 115 or 120

for about 13 years...so far I have only hit that weight in pregnancy (lol).

Anyways, for muscle growth, I would be eating meat... as raw as you can

stand it, raw eggs (they are great in shakes), and lots of raw fat to keep

your body lubricated (inside) and for the extra energy you use.

>For those of you working out, what is your opinion on protein

>powders? Generally I am 'NT nazi' and can tell this is denatured food

>and don't like the artificial taste but had 1 serving last night and

>1 this morning and i do feel like better recovery and muscle growth.

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>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> For those of you working out, what is your opinion on protein

> powders? Generally I am 'NT nazi' and can tell this is denatured food

> and don't like the artificial taste but had 1 serving last night and

> 1 this morning and i do feel like better recovery and muscle growth.

>

> I'm using BioPro, highly recommended by the store where purchased.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

I would conjecture that if you notice more muscle growth in one day than you

normally notice in one day, we are entirely operating on placebo effect.

Back when I used to use this stuff, I gravitated towards Goatein -

expensive, but, I figured I'd probably be doing the least harm by using it.

I've since stopped doing sports supplements and noticed no difference at all

in my progress (of course, making sure I get enough high quality protein in

my diet). I took this as a sign that, while for strength purposes, protein

powder is better than inadequate protein, you'd be better off in the long

run by eating real food.

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Hey,

I can't answer for Sally but to me de-natured means processed and out

of its natural context. You do have a point here. Whey protein

poweder is much better than soy isolate or other veggie isolates. But

i think adding the powder to kefir helps. Who knows about the milk

quality, however.

cheers,

> In a message dated 10/23/04 12:20:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> jp2@s... writes:

>

> > Generally I am 'NT nazi' and can tell this is denatured food

> _____

>

> ~~~~~> What is the definition of " denatured food " ? I've seen Sally

use the

> phrase in print, but I'm only aware of " denaturation " referring to

protein

> denaturation, in which case cooked meat would be denatured, while a

low-temp

> dehydrated protein powder wouldn't be.

>

> Chris

>

> ____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion?

It is a

> heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings,

birds, and

> animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the

sight of them

> make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion,

> which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear

the sight of

> the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they

pray

> ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those

> who do them wrong. "

>

> --Saint Isaac the Syrian

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In a message dated 10/25/04 11:58:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jp2@... writes:

> Who knows about the milk

> quality, however.

_____

~~~~> Would it matter? I think the better filtration technologies would

remove any toxins (I don't know this for sure, but it seems so), and if the

protein is hydrolyzed, the A1/A2 thing, trace gluten worries, etc, probably

shouldn't be an issue either.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them

make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of

the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for

those

who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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From: panhandlepeddlers

Sent: Friday, 2006.4.28 6:32 PM

Subject: [] Re: Insurance Appeal letter

I use a Weight loss drink mix called Slimstyles. It is a Whey

protien supplement with something called PGX.

* Whey is the watery part of milk and contains the protein lactalbumin.

Lactalbumin is a small protein, but still has allergic potential. Are you able

to consume any dairy products? Does the Slimstyles label say whether the whey

proteins have been hydrolyzed, or what PGX is?

I still have some bloating after ingesting this product, but it is by

far the best thing my body will tolerate and not cause me severe

fatigue and I will stay full for about 4 hours.

I have tried food eliminations for a couple of years and no matter

what solid foods I eat I have reactions to. I believe my worst

reactions comes from my body actually having to digest food. I take

digestive enzymes to help me some. During digestion my gut is very

loud with grinding and churning.

That is interesting about the protien.

Debbie

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There is a lot of evidence that a high protein diet protects against

some of the negative effects of some mycotoxins. Whey protein is one

of the highest quality proteins.

Just another data point..

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Sally Fallon's tape said all protein powders, and especially whey

powders, are dangerous in that they are extruded and thus have the

protein molecules broken apart, which is neurotoxic, and also the

resulting tiny particles have a mass to outer layer ration that causes

the only type of bad cholesterol there is due to the stickiness that

happens. Whey is so much more fragile than other proteins that they are

all the more dangerous.

Does anyone know of powders that are simply dried proteins that are

perhaps then broken up or some process that's not so dangerous?

Also, keep in mind the fact that too much protein without the fat is

dangerous and is another reason why dried cereals are bad and

especially why organic cereals found in health food stores are even

worse due to their higher protein concentration.

On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Ives wrote:

> Does anyone have any other ideas for protein drinks that are not soy

> based?  I tried a whey protein, and it gave me horrible bowel issues

> (apparently whey bothers me?) 

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I think I would check with Mercola on his

drink because I doubt he would advocate it being extruded. I also have been drinking a protein drink

from Lepti Trim that is only whey from colostrum first milking. It is not extruded it is dried. I have not said much about it because I have

only been drinking it for a week or so and I drink it for the Leptin for weight

control. I did check into this product

pretty thoroughly and it appears to be pretty good.

Allyn

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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006

8:19 AM

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Subject: Re: Protein

powders

Sally Fallon's tape said

all protein powders, and especially whey powders, are dangerous in that they

are extruded and thus have the protein molecules broken apart, which is

neurotoxic, and also the resulting tiny particles have a mass to outer layer

ration that causes the only type of bad cholesterol there is due to the

stickiness that happens. Whey is so much more fragile than other proteins that

they are all the more dangerous.

Does anyone know of powders that are simply dried proteins that are perhaps

then broken up or some process that's not so dangerous?

Also, keep in mind the fact that too much protein without the fat is dangerous

and is another reason why dried cereals are bad and especially why organic

cereals found in health food stores are even worse due to their higher protein

concentration.

On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Ives wrote:

Does anyone have any other ideas for

protein drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein, and it

gave me horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?)

Parashis

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>From: Linn <linnmiller@...>

> You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from

>eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't the

>taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella.

I've tried raw eggs. I don't know how familiar you are with Mercola's

website, but he talks about the right type of diet for your body. (Protein

type, carb type, or mixed.) Anyways, on the questionare I came out as a

protein type, and supposedly we don't do as well on eggs, and I always

wondered why I didn't like them better. Also explained why I like the dark

meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is from iron.)

MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of flavor and

quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full.

Skipper

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Well, actually it was from one of the people responding to something on this website. He is a Chiropractor and under his name he had some websites so I checked them out. Then I contacted him and then went to the website. It is made by Immune Tree and I had checked into the colostrum over a year ago because they have just about the best colostrum on the market. So, I got the info and I have started on it. I have also in the past read two books on leptin which is the hormone that was discovered in the early 90's that helps our bodies to tell us when we are full, etc. It is in the adipose tissues and when you have been on the SAD diet you really screw up this hormone, especially if you the ab gene (the obese gene) which I believe as my whole family tends to be heavy. My brother is over 400 pounds and I am no where near that but still very overweight. I have struggled all my life with it and now can't even lose weight. Anyhow, I have lost over 11 inches in 1 week and I have not measured this week. So far no weight loss but my clothes are definitely bigger. Check out the wesite at www.yourwellnesscompany.com/aferris. I really think they have an exceptional product as far as the quality ingredients. I swore I would never try another diet but it works for me because I just put the shakes in my kefir or raw milk with coconut oil. I have not really changed what I eat as I am really committed to the traditional foods as I have seen so many good results in other areas-except weight loss.

Allyn

Re: Protein powders

I'm pretty interested in this product if it's not extruded. How did you discover that? Did you call the company? I would not only like it for myself but for my football playing grandson.On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:11 AM, ALLYN FERRIS wrote:

I think I would check with Mercola on his drink because I doubt he would advocate it being extruded. I also have been drinking a protein drink from Lepti Trim that is only whey from colostrum first milking. It is not extruded it is dried. I have not said much about it because I have only been drinking it for a week or so and I drink it for the Leptin for weight control. I did check into this product pretty thoroughly and it appears to be pretty good.

Allyn

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From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ParashisSent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:19 AMiodine Subject: Re: Protein powders Sally Fallon's tape said all protein powders, and especially whey powders, are dangerous in that they are extruded and thus have the protein molecules broken apart, which is neurotoxic, and also the resulting tiny particles have a mass to outer layer ration that causes the only type of bad cholesterol there is due to the stickiness that happens. Whey is so much more fragile than other proteins that they are all the more dangerous.Does anyone know of powders that are simply dried proteins that are perhaps then broken up or some process that's not so dangerous?Also, keep in mind the fact that too much protein without the fat is dangerous and is another reason why dried cereals are bad and especially why organic cereals found in health food stores are even worse due to their higher protein concentration.On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Ives wrote:Does anyone have any other ideas for protein drinks that are not soy based? I tried a whey protein, and it gave me horrible bowel issues (apparently whey bothers me?) Parashis artpages@...zine:artpagesonline.comportfolio:http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Parashis artpages@...zine:artpagesonline.comportfolio:http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html

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Weston Price Foundation doesn't believe in types. On their site they

have a link to an article " The Right Type Hype "

On Jul 5, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Skipper Beers wrote:

>> From: Linn <linnmiller@...>

>

>

>

>> You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from

>> eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't

>> the

>> taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella.

>

> I've tried raw eggs. I don't know how familiar you are with Mercola's

> website, but he talks about the right type of diet for your body.

> (Protein

> type, carb type, or mixed.) Anyways, on the questionare I came out as

> a

> protein type, and supposedly we don't do as well on eggs, and I always

> wondered why I didn't like them better. Also explained why I like the

> dark

> meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is from

> iron.)

> MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of flavor

> and

> quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full.

>

> Skipper

>

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no, they don't but I know it works for some people. I have checked into the metabolic typing and the blood type. Both were way off for me but sometime people it is not. I think you have to make your own decision on that.

Allyn

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Weston Price Foundation doesn't believe in types. On their site they have a link to an article "The Right Type Hype"On Jul 5, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Skipper Beers wrote:>> From: Linn <linnmillerentouchonline (DOT) net>>>>>> You don't have any problems with eating raw eggs, ever get sick from>> eating them? That's the only reason I'm such a wuss about it isn't >> the>> taste, I'm really leery of getting salmonella.>> I've tried raw eggs. I don't know how familiar you are with Mercola's> website, but he talks about the right type of diet for your body. > (Protein> type, carb type, or mixed.) Anyways, on the questionare I came out as > a> protein type, and supposedly we don't do as well on eggs, and I always> wondered why I didn't like them better. Also explained why I like the > dark> meat and my wife likes the white meat. (FWIW the dark color is from > iron.)> MY wife and son love white meat, I eat it and find it devoid of flavor > and> quite dry when they call it juicy and flavor full.>> Skipper>> __________________________________________________________> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE!> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/>>>>>>