Re: Q: Ulcerative Colitis Patient

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, I would really educate him on the importance of BTG's. These are your foundation. He needs to be doing COP and he can even rub castor oil into his knee to reduce inflammation and pain. He's had this for 10+ years. It's going to take awhile, and if he picks and chooses what treatments he does, it will take even longer. Diet, castor oil packs and routine are all in his budget. With a morning only aggravation, GI may not be the primary system out of balance. I'm sure you will come back to these numbers as he does have some barrier issues, but I would change them this month based on his priority and presentation right now. Trust your instincts and remember that his path to healing is his own - you only are the witness. So,

try not to take personal responsibility for each months outcome. I may just be speaking to myself here. AmyAmy E Chadwick, NDPalmer Naturopathic Medical Center440A W Evergreen AvePalmer, AK 99645907.745.8500amycnd@... Q: Ulcerative Colitis Patient

Hello everyone,

I am new to using UNDAs and would appreciate any help or

receommendations. I have a 27 year old male who has a 10+ year

history of ulcerative colitis. It is quite severe, he has 5-6 bowel

movements daily in the morning, but seems to be fine the rest of the

day. He denies any bleeding however his UC does aggravate

occasionally. Last year he had to be hospitalized and put on IV

corticosteroids and oral predisone. He is currently on Remicade,

Imuran and Minocycline for his acne. He came to my clinic with a

very skeptical and discouraging mindset because he has tried

numerous treatments on his own in the past including probiotics,

elemental diet, slippery elm, etc. but nothing worked. He seems

resistant to treatment although he's coming to see me, and finance

appears to be an issue. I have prescribed so far the hypoallergenic

and sulfur-eliminating diet, castor oil packs, dry skin brushing,

slippery elm powder, Nutrasea fish oils, a multivitamin, HMF

SuperPowder, St. Francis' deep immune, and UNDAs #3, #48 and #50.

He came back for his followup today and he had no improvement

whatsoever after 3 weeks of treatment. His bowel movements have not

diminished. He was only compliant with the UNDA numbers, fish oils,

HMF and slippery elm.

He is also seeing the chiropractor at the clinic for bursitis of the

knee and he also claims there have been no improvement in the knee.

I'm am considering on adding an adrenal support, possible Juglans

regia, and repeating the UNDAs. I'm a little hesitant with this

patient because he doesn't seem to be absolutely compliant. Any

suggestions?

Chan, B.Sc., ND

Toronto

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Thank you Amy,

I think I'll need to sit this patient down on Monday and really talk to him because I think he himself is his greatest obstacle to cure. He's very reluctant with treatments, and he's very pessimistic. Thank you for your advice, I will keep you all updated on how he does.

On 1/5/07, and Amy Chadwick <archerchadwicks@...> wrote:

, I would really educate him on the importance of BTG's. These are your foundation. He needs to be doing COP and he can even rub castor oil into his knee to reduce inflammation and pain. He's had this for 10+ years. It's going to take awhile, and if he picks and chooses what treatments he does, it will take even longer. Diet, castor oil packs and routine are all in his budget. With a morning only aggravation, GI may not be the primary system out of balance. I'm sure you will come back to these numbers as he does have some barrier issues, but I would change them this month based on his priority and presentation right now. Trust your instincts and remember that his path to healing is his own - you only are the witness. So, try not to take personal responsibility for each months outcome. I may just be speaking to myself here. Amy

Amy E Chadwick, NDPalmer Naturopathic Medical Center440A W Evergreen AvePalmer, AK 99645907.745.8500

amycnd@...

Q: Ulcerative Colitis Patient

Hello everyone,I am new to using UNDAs and would appreciate any help or receommendations. I have a 27 year old male who has a 10+ year history of ulcerative colitis. It is quite severe, he has 5-6 bowel movements daily in the morning, but seems to be fine the rest of the day. He denies any bleeding however his UC does aggravate occasionally. Last year he had to be hospitalized and put on IV corticosteroids and oral predisone. He is currently on Remicade, Imuran and Minocycline for his acne. He came to my clinic with a very skeptical and discouraging mindset because he has tried numerous treatments on his own in the past including probiotics, elemental diet, slippery elm, etc. but nothing worked. He seems resistant to treatment although he's coming to see me, and finance appears to be an issue. I have prescribed so far the hypoallergenic and sulfur-eliminating diet, castor oil packs, dry skin brushing,

slippery elm powder, Nutrasea fish oils, a multivitamin, HMF SuperPowder, St. Francis' deep immune, and UNDAs #3, #48 and #50. He came back for his followup today and he had no improvement whatsoever after 3 weeks of treatment. His bowel movements have not diminished. He was only compliant with the UNDA numbers, fish oils, HMF and slippery elm.He is also seeing the chiropractor at the clinic for bursitis of the knee and he also claims there have been no improvement in the knee. I'm am considering on adding an adrenal support, possible Juglans regia, and repeating the UNDAs. I'm a little hesitant with this patient because he doesn't seem to be absolutely compliant. Any suggestions? Chan, B.Sc., NDToronto __________________________________________________

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UC can be very slow and difficult to treat as far as symptom relief. I think Sulphur is the remedy for loose stools on rising (driving out of bed) - not sure if that fits him or not. I think of the AM loose stools as more of a nervous system issue than GI. May more drainage for the NS would help his attitude too. Who knows. He will likely not stay as a patient based on his attitude coming into it. I've found myself putting tons of energy into these types of patients, trying to fins whatever I can to get symptom relief so they stick with me and this is a complete waste of energy! My advice is not to spend more time on this case until you have the serious discussion about expectations and committment. If he responds to that, then put more time into it. I am leaning this from experience and lots of time wasted.

I believe Ficus and Lonicera are helpful remedies and I'd use Ribes as well. I push probiotics in a big way with these patients. I personally do not think he will improve while he is on the antibiotics for his skin. Check for C. diff. They are more susceptible to it. Maybe use something like BioInflammatory Plus (Biogenesis) or UltraInflamX (Metagenics) to see if he may get some sx relief. Glutamine alse. Kim E. Saxe, ND Vice-President, Wisconsin Naturopathic Physicians Association www.milwaukeenaturopathic.com "Study nature, love nature, stay close to nature. It will never fail you." ~ lloyd Seven Stones Center for Wellness1924 N. Farwell Ave. Milwaukee, WI 53202414.224.1074Family Practice Clinic11803 W. North Ave.Wauwatosa, WI 53226414.258.5522

Q: Ulcerative Colitis Patient

Hello everyone,I am new to using UNDAs and would appreciate any help or receommendations. I have a 27 year old male who has a 10+ year history of ulcerative colitis. It is quite severe, he has 5-6 bowel movements daily in the morning, but seems to be fine the rest of the day. He denies any bleeding however his UC does aggravate occasionally. Last year he had to be hospitalized and put on IV corticosteroids and oral predisone. He is currently on Remicade, Imuran and Minocycline for his acne. He came to my clinic with a very skeptical and discouraging mindset because he has tried numerous treatments on his own in the past including probiotics, elemental diet, slippery elm, etc. but nothing worked. He seems resistant to treatment although he's coming to see me, and finance appears to be an issue. I have prescribed so far the hypoallergenic and sulfur-eliminating diet, castor oil packs, dry skin brushing,

slippery elm powder, Nutrasea fish oils, a multivitamin, HMF SuperPowder, St. Francis' deep immune, and UNDAs #3, #48 and #50. He came back for his followup today and he had no improvement whatsoever after 3 weeks of treatment. His bowel movements have not diminished. He was only compliant with the UNDA numbers, fish oils, HMF and slippery elm.He is also seeing the chiropractor at the clinic for bursitis of the knee and he also claims there have been no improvement in the knee. I'm am considering on adding an adrenal support, possible Juglans regia, and repeating the UNDAs. I'm a little hesitant with this patient because he doesn't seem to be absolutely compliant. Any suggestions? Chan, B.Sc., NDToronto__________________________________________________

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Thank you Kim, he is coming in this morning so I am going to have a talk with him. I will let you know how it goes...

On 1/8/07, Kim Saxe <drkimsaxe@...> wrote:

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UC can be very slow and difficult to treat as far as symptom relief. I think Sulphur is the remedy for loose stools on rising (driving out of bed) - not sure if that fits him or not. I think of the AM loose stools as more of a nervous system issue than GI. May more drainage for the NS would help his attitude too. Who knows. He will likely not stay as a patient based on his attitude coming into it. I've found myself putting tons of energy into these types of patients, trying to fins whatever I can to get symptom relief so they stick with me and this is a complete waste of energy! My advice is not to spend more time on this case until you have the serious discussion about expectations and committment. If he responds to that, then put more time into it. I am leaning this from experience and lots of time wasted.

I believe Ficus and Lonicera are helpful remedies and I'd use Ribes as well. I push probiotics in a big way with these patients. I personally do not think he will improve while he is on the antibiotics for his skin. Check for C. diff. They are more susceptible to it. Maybe use something like BioInflammatory Plus (Biogenesis) or UltraInflamX (Metagenics) to see if he may get some sx relief. Glutamine alse.

Kim E. Saxe, ND Vice-President, Wisconsin Naturopathic Physicians Association www.milwaukeenaturopathic.com

" Study nature, love nature, stay close to nature. It will never fail you. " ~ lloyd Seven Stones Center for Wellness1924 N. Farwell Ave. Milwaukee, WI 53202414.224.1074

Family Practice Clinic11803 W. North Ave.Wauwatosa, WI 53226414.258.5522

Q: Ulcerative Colitis Patient

Hello everyone,I am new to using UNDAs and would appreciate any help or receommendations. I have a 27 year old male who has a 10+ year history of ulcerative colitis. It is quite severe, he has 5-6 bowel movements daily in the morning, but seems to be fine the rest of the day. He denies any bleeding however his UC does aggravate occasionally. Last year he had to be hospitalized and put on IV corticosteroids and oral predisone. He is currently on Remicade, Imuran and Minocycline for his acne. He came to my clinic with a very skeptical and discouraging mindset because he has tried numerous treatments on his own in the past including probiotics, elemental diet, slippery elm, etc. but nothing worked. He seems resistant to treatment although he's coming to see me, and finance appears to be an issue. I have prescribed so far the hypoallergenic and sulfur-eliminating diet, castor oil packs, dry skin brushing,

slippery elm powder, Nutrasea fish oils, a multivitamin, HMF SuperPowder, St. Francis' deep immune, and UNDAs #3, #48 and #50. He came back for his followup today and he had no improvement whatsoever after 3 weeks of treatment. His bowel movements have not diminished. He was only compliant with the UNDA numbers, fish oils, HMF and slippery elm.He is also seeing the chiropractor at the clinic for bursitis of the knee and he also claims there have been no improvement in the knee. I'm am considering on adding an adrenal support, possible Juglans regia, and repeating the UNDAs. I'm a little hesitant with this patient because he doesn't seem to be absolutely compliant. Any suggestions? Chan, B.Sc., NDToronto

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