A: Breast biopsy after thermography?

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, Im not completely sure about the Biopsy and protocol and look forward to input from others with more experience as well. But, I am wondering if the Thermography report used the Marseilles classifaction system, TH1-TH5. Sounds like she is in the TH3-4f range, at 50%risk with the f for fibrosistic hx, so likely a TH3f. Do you know? In that situation, I have seen docs and thermography docs recommend an ultrasound, and immediately get on a treatment plan that includes calcium-d-glucarate, Indoplex with DIM, Recancostat (glutathione) and lymph drainage/BTG's. UNDA #'s____ ?? NOt usre, but perhaps look into Conium 200c or similar depending on her presentation. Blessings,Brad Dr Bradley West (ND)PO Box 1434Felton, CA 95018 Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Hi Brad,Thanks for your response.Yes, it is a TH4 on the affected breast and a TH3 on the other. I already have her on DIM, glutathione, BTGs since she found the lump (which I took as a sign of estrogen dominance). I'm confident in that treatment, but am still hoping to find out about protocol with this stuff and to cover my bases in the event that it is malignant.Thanks again, Chang, ND On 11/8/06, Brad West, ND <BradWestND@...> wrote: , Im not completely sure about the Biopsy and protocol and look forward to input from others with more experience as well. But, I am wondering if the Thermography report used the Marseilles classifaction system, TH1-TH5. Sounds like she is in the TH3-4f range, at 50%risk

with the f for fibrosistic hx, so likely a TH3f. Do you know? In that situation, I have seen docs and thermography docs recommend an ultrasound, and immediately get on a treatment plan that includes calcium-d-glucarate, Indoplex with DIM, Recancostat (glutathione) and lymph drainage/BTG's. UNDA #'s____ ?? NOt usre, but perhaps look into Conium 200c or similar depending on her presentation. Blessings,Brad Dr Bradley West (ND) PO Box 1434Felton, CA 95018 Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Deanna,Thanks for the info - I would assume the u/s would be positive as there is a 1" diameter mobile mass. Repeated breast exam after 1 month, the mass seems to have increased in size by 0.5", though still mobile. I've suggested giving it another month to see if there are any changes, but is it not possible to have a biopsy based on an obvious lump? Or do you in fact need to have mammogram and/or u/s?Thanks again, Chang, ND , I don't know about protocol, but I can do any testing. I would have get an ultrasound first or a mammogram. An ultrasound will not distinguish between a benign or malignant mass. If the U/S is positive, then get a mammogram. As long as she has insurance, I would do everything else before a biopsy. Unless she is worried, then just do a biopsy. I would not however do a biopsy based on a thermography and I don't think an MD would. Deanna

Berman, ND, CM Ithaca, NY At 02:10 PM 11/8/2006, you wrote: Hi Brad, Thanks for your response. Yes, it is a TH4 on the affected breast and a TH3 on the other. I already have her on DIM, glutathione, BTGs since she found the lump (which I took as a sign of estrogen dominance). I'm confident in that treatment, but am still hoping to find out about protocol with this stuff and to cover my bases in the event that it is malignant. Thanks again, Chang, ND On 11/8/06, Brad West, ND <BradWestND@...> wrote: , Im not completely sure about the Biopsy and protocol and look forward to input from others with more experience as well. But, I am wondering if the Thermography report used the Marseilles

classifaction system, TH1-TH5. Sounds like she is in the TH3-4f range, at 50%risk with the f for fibrosistic hx, so likely a TH3f. Do you know? In that situation, I have seen docs and thermography docs recommend an ultrasound, and immediately get on a treatment plan that includes calcium-d-glucarate, Indoplex with DIM, Recancostat (glutathione) and lymph drainage/BTG's. UNDA #'s____ ?? NOt usre, but perhaps look into Conium 200c or similar depending on her presentation. Blessings, Brad Dr Bradley West (ND) PO Box 1434 Felton, CA 95018 Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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, The U/S simply shows if it is fluid or not. If not, they will want to do a biopsy or mamogram. Obviously, the biopsy is most accurate, but penetrates the walled in env't and if positive can always "spread" cancer cells. Mamograms are practically worthless and with an 80% false positive, yes 80%, they often unessarily scare people. Most breast health experts who do thermography will do the protocols for a TH4 and then retest in 3 months, usually now down to a TH2 with much less vasculature to that area. Also, is the lump hard and fixed, growing? How bout her local lymph nodes? Blessings,Brad Dr Bradley West (ND)PO Box 1434Felton, CA 95018 Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Hi everyone,Thanks for all your help on this. Not playing much of a role in the standard Western medical operating procedures, this was a tough one. I tried calling hospitals and other doctors offices, to no avail.It's this group that got me the answers I needed, and I thank you all for your participation.Cheers Chang, ND----------------,The protocol is for a mammo first then U/S if the mammo is suspicious.The mammo would show that there is something there. It can'tdifferentiate what it is. Calcification on mammos are highly suspiciousfor cancer but not confirmatory. That's where the U/S comes in. The U/Sis used to help differentiate whether it is a cystic or a solid mass.If it is a solid mass, the U/S may or may not be able to tell if it isa fibroadenoma or a more serious cancerous lesion (although there arecertain classic signs for a fibroadenoma). So rather than

speculatewhat a solid mass is, the next step is a biopsy which is definitive.Also, if the breast is very dense and glandular, the mammo is useless.This occasionally happens in young woman (<35-40 yrs old)So for your patient I would recommend an U/S first and based on theresults, a biopsy may or may not be warranted. I would not do the mammo.Johan Ghazali NDVancouver, BC

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