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--- Beverly <bev.wright20@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> You may wish to check out Linaloe wood oil (Bursera

> delpechiana) for

> your blends because it is almost identical in

> chemistry and

> fragrance to rosewood.

>

Bev,

Thanks! I am very interested in trying linaloe wood

oil. Does anyone know of a supplier. I looked it up

and found only European companies that I'm not

familiar with.

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Glazer <juliaglazermail@...> wrote:

--- Beverly wrote:

> ,

>

> You may wish to check out Linaloe wood oil (Bursera

> delpechiana) for

> your blends because it is almost identical in

> chemistry and

> fragrance to rosewood.

>

Bev,

Thanks! I am very interested in trying linaloe wood

oil. Does anyone know of a supplier. I looked it up

Hi

My usual suppliers didn't stock it from what I can see....... I am trying a

new company and have just purchased online...... will let you know.....

Great info Bev ...... I only knew about Ho wood /leaf so when I looked it up

you are absolutely right ......I look forward to receiving it.... The company

from their website looks from appearances v good and have some decent

testimonials and awards........... will keep you posted.... if you want a sample

let me know and post your address offline to me if you like.... and I will post

it to you. Also if anyone else wants to try some I'll send you a sample.....

let me know, again offline if you like.

regards

Janita

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On 15/10/06, Zz's Petals <zzspetals1@...> wrote:

> This may not mean much to this group, but Rosewood

> isn't just used for perfumery, or for it's oil.

> Brazilian Rosewood is a prized tonewood for stringed

> instruments.

Hi

The tree used to make musical instruments is Dalbergia nigra, common

name Brazilian Rosewood. It is also endangered, but not used at all in

EO production.

Dalbergia latifolia (also used for musical instruments) is commonly

known as Indian rosewood.

Aniba roseodora (from Brazil) is taken exclusively for essential oil

production, which involves the distruction of the whole tree - roots

are said to contain a high % of oil.

HTH

LLx

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At 02:41 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:

>On 15/10/06, Zz's Petals <zzspetals1@...> wrote:

> > This may not mean much to this group, but Rosewood

> > isn't just used for perfumery, or for it's oil.

> > Brazilian Rosewood is a prized tonewood for stringed

> > instruments.

>

>Hi

>The tree used to make musical instruments is Dalbergia nigra, common

>name Brazilian Rosewood. It is also endangered, but not used at all in

>EO production.

>Dalbergia latifolia (also used for musical instruments) is commonly

>known as Indian rosewood.

>Aniba roseodora (from Brazil) is taken exclusively for essential oil

>production, which involves the distruction of the whole tree - roots

>are said to contain a high % of oil.

Wow, Liz, that's an eye-opener. That's why it's always good to know

the botanical names.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Chat Group

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> >Hi

> >The tree used to make musical instruments is Dalbergia nigra, common

> >name Brazilian Rosewood. It is also endangered, but not used at all in

> >EO production.

> >Dalbergia latifolia (also used for musical instruments) is commonly

> >known as Indian rosewood.

> >Aniba roseodora (from Brazil) is taken exclusively for essential oil

> >production, which involves the destruction of the whole tree - roots

> >are said to contain a high % of oil.

>

> Wow, Liz, that's an eye-opener. That's why it's always good to know

> the botanical names.

Hi Anya

When I first started researching endangered species the claim from

many suppliers that the RW oil they sold came *only* from wood

chipping left over from furniture trade, kinda got me. I didn't see

that the amount of RW on the market could possibly come from left

overs. Then I landed on one or two sites selling *rosewood* items

referencing Dalbergia nigra - and the penny dropped firmly into place!

Looking up the common name/s for Dalbergia nigra I realised how the

confusion/ misinformation arose.

I checked it out with Barbara (lady in Amazonia who runs the AVIVE

project) and she confirmed Aniba roseodora is the only rosewood used

for oil. (Although some are now selling Ocotea Caudata as *Rosewood*

these days...... think Tony has some info on his site about this as

well.)

Yep - botanical names are the only way to research plant

information..or buy oils ;-)

LLx

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At 06:00 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:

> > >Hi

> > >The tree used to make musical instruments is Dalbergia nigra, common

> > >name Brazilian Rosewood. It is also endangered, but not used at all in

> > >EO production.

> > >Dalbergia latifolia (also used for musical instruments) is commonly

> > >known as Indian rosewood.

> > >Aniba roseodora (from Brazil) is taken exclusively for essential oil

> > >production, which involves the destruction of the whole tree - roots

> > >are said to contain a high % of oil.

> >

> > Wow, Liz, that's an eye-opener. That's why it's always good to know

> > the botanical names.

>

>Hi Anya

>When I first started researching endangered species the claim from

>many suppliers that the RW oil they sold came *only* from wood

>chipping left over from furniture trade, kinda got me. I didn't see

>that the amount of RW on the market could possibly come from left

>overs. Then I landed on one or two sites selling *rosewood* items

>referencing Dalbergia nigra - and the penny dropped firmly into place!

>Looking up the common name/s for Dalbergia nigra I realised how the

>confusion/ misinformation arose.

>I checked it out with Barbara (lady in Amazonia who runs the AVIVE

>project) and she confirmed Aniba roseodora is the only rosewood used

>for oil. (Although some are now selling Ocotea Caudata as *Rosewood*

>these days...... think Tony has some info on his site about this as

>well.)

>Yep - botanical names are the only way to research plant

>information..or buy oils ;-)

Hi Liz

More confused! If the D. nigra is not used for EO production (which

you stated earlier) (yet endangered by manufacturing

demands)....follow me now... then you found that the RW oil being

sold came from wood chips from the furniture trade...then....via your

contact with Barbara with AVIVE we see maybe O caudata is now being

sold as RW, and maybe that's also from wood chips, like the D. nigra?

Yow. Not logical, I know.

OK, another take: some saying that the RW oils IS from the chips of

D. nigra. O. caudata not used in process that produces wood chips,

but is source of doppelganger RW oil.

Wikipedia, NOT a very reliable source on info, never mentions Aniba

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood

Tony on Aniba

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nodice/new/magazine/products/products.htm

Off to make dinner with hopefully, no endangered anything in the pot.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Chat Group

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i have an old rosewood that i bought 12 years ago. it is still

smelling great. i love it so much.

i use it in a few recipes. i do not design with it anymore, and use

it on the rare occasion personally. it does have an amazing

vibration. i saw some recommendations fly by in this thread of

replacements. i think i will check some of them out, thank you.

can you tell me, what other plants are on the endangered lists?

maybe that went by also, but i have been busy for a week....putting

together a portfolio.

thanks for all you do.

xoxoooxoxo

L

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Zz's Petals <zzspetals1@...> wrote: >>>>. The musician is more likely to

see

themselves as getting something very special, sacred

even.

I am not sure that one thinks in those terms when

purchasing a bottle of oil..

>>>>>>>`non text portions etc so true...............as a musician one cherishes

something that has been hand made and created to contribute to music in tone

colour and warmth.... the musician looks for an instrument that will best

express his soul, essence through that instrument in sound. Just like the

perfumer looks for that tone in a clear floating top note,,, deep warm bass or

expressive heart....... for a rosewood guitar......that would be held in regard

for many many years and hopefully passed on......

Janita

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Zz's Petals <zzspetals1@...> wrote: >>>>. The musician is more likely to

see

themselves as getting something very special, sacred

even.

I am not sure that one thinks in those terms when

purchasing a bottle of oil..

>>>>>>>`non text portions etc so true...............as a musician one cherishes

something that has been hand made and created to contribute to music in tone

colour and warmth.... the musician looks for an instrument that will best

express his soul, essence through that instrument in sound. Just like the

perfumer looks for that tone in a clear floating top note,,, deep warm bass or

expressive heart....... for a rosewood guitar......that would be held in regard

for many many years and hopefully passed on......

Janita

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