Re: Perfume oil help! Part 2: Essential arsenal

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Sherif wrote:

> This post is strictly about getting information on essential oils that

> i should get that will help bring this humble student's perfume oil to

> another level.

> Sherif, T.o.

>

Hi, you could order the basic kit from Mandy Aftel, it has 18 wonderful essences

to get you

started.

http://www.aftelier.com/coursematerials.html

I found it fantastic, the workbook is good too and is worth every cent of the

375 USD I paid

for it.

HTH

Ruth

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On 9/18/06, openyour3y3s <openyour3y3s@...> wrote:

> 4 New Questions.

1. The floral notes i have are jasmine, ylang ylang, and rose.. what

> other floral notes can fall into the same class as these babies?

>

The other florals I keep going back to are: Neroli (orange blossom

absolute and orange blossom water absolute as well, all three from

Eden Botanicals), Bornia, Pink Lotus, (both EB) Blue Lotus (Essential

oil University), Geranium Bourbon (EOU), and Tuberose (EB). I could

go on and on, but I feel these are the florals I am drawn to again and

again. Being new to this myself, I feel these were a very good

investment.

> 2. Vanilla is great! how's tonka bean? and cocoa absolute? What else

> would be 'essential' to have in this gourmond category? (liberty

> natural)

>

I love Cocoa and use it often, even if it's only to scent the shampoo.

I also love the roasted coffee bean from EOU, although I'm sure it is

available elsewhere. If you like the vanilla try peru balsam for a

different, not so sticky sweet note. It is very affordable as well

and I've found it to be useful as a fixative although I recommend

doing your own research as I'm not very experienced. Although it

might not fall into the " gourmond " category, Lavender Absolute makes

my mouth water and when blended with cocoa, has sent the folks around

me into a frenzy for more. I had a friend pinch a bottle of a blend

this weekend formulated with the two! De-Lish! And in my neck of the

woods, thievery is a sure sign you are on the right track.

Vanilla and Red Mandarin blended smell like dreamsicle. Hmm, gave me

the idea...maybe I'll add that to the cocoa shampoo...

> 3. What attars are good to have in one's collection? From liberty's

> selection i see Agar musk which sounds delicious amongst a flurry of

> others.

>

> 4. Anise star? what blends good with it?

>

Beats me on the last two questions but I hope someone answers so I can

find out!!!

> Thanks everybody once more for your time,

>

> Sherif, T.o.

Don't know how much help I was, but maybe you'll have yet more inspiration.

in North Dallas

>

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Hey Ruth, that sounds like a great idea.. but being a university

student, 375 for a book is just simply not in my budget.. that's why

i'm here, hoping to find free help =]

Sherif

[Guest guest]

Hey Ruth, that sounds like a great idea.. but being a university

student, 375 for a book is just simply not in my budget.. that's why

i'm here, hoping to find free help =]

Sherif

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> The other florals I keep going back to are: Neroli (orange blossom

> absolute and orange blossom water absolute as well, all three from

> Eden Botanicals), Bornia, Pink Lotus, (both EB) Blue Lotus

(Essential

> oil University), Geranium Bourbon (EOU), and Tuberose (EB). I could

> go on and on, but I feel these are the florals I am drawn to again

and

> again. Being new to this myself, I feel these were a very good

> investment.

> I love Cocoa and use it often, even if it's only to scent the

shampoo.

> >

Hey , your responses are quite inspiring and informative!

I have neroli, forgot to mention.. that is definately one that i love

also, definately amazing.. I was just wondering, how different do the

lavenders smell? i have french lavender.. is that somewhat the same

as the one you have? Lavendar absolute?

Also, do you have any experience with resins? I really want to use

benzoin but I have no clue how to go about using it.. it's quite

sticky and i fear i'll lose most of it to glassware.. =]

Ok, i'm going to grab some cocoa, and some beezwax abs, and some

labdanum, tonka bean, per balsam, and i'm going to (hopefully) try

getting some of their musk (all from liberty) .. i'll let you know

how it smells if i ever get em

Sherif

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>

> Also, do you have any experience with resins? I really want to use

> benzoin but I have no clue how to go about using it.. it's quite

> sticky and i fear i'll lose most of it to glassware.. =]

>

> Sherif

>

Hi Sherif -

Elise of the toothpick method here. I keep my thicker stuff au

natural because 1) I'm not comfortable with tincturing them yet, 2) I

like working with the natural stuff and 3) I can do so because I'm

working in small quantities. I already spoke of the toothpick dip

which I use with the thinner oils where I want just a tiny smidge.

With the very thick oils I also dip in the toothpick but I let it drip

off the end of the toothpick a drop at a time into my mixture (this

takes patience because some drip *very* slowly). It may take practice

and could get messy but I don't get huge quantities of the stuff stuck

in a dropper and I can wipe the extra stuff off the toothpick back

into the original bottle. However, once in the mix there are some of

the thicker essences that just don't want to dissolve so I've ended up

filtering a couple of perfumes.

Hope this helps -

Elise

http://www.tambela.com

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> Hi Sherif -

>

> Elise of the toothpick method here. I keep my thicker stuff au

> natural because 1) I'm not comfortable with tincturing them yet, 2)

I

> like working with the natural stuff and 3) I can do so because I'm

> working in small quantities.

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> Hope this helps -

>

> Elise

> http://www.tambela.com

>

Hey Elise =] Thanks for the reply, and i may just give the toothpick

(or needle?) a shot. I figure wood is more porous, may absorb some

of the oil but i am not certain. What is tincturing? and just out of

curiosity, do you think that it would be wise to dilute it in oil?

Thanks for the help E.

Sherif

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Edited to correct Top Post!!

, thanks for the input on the lavendar.

I'm very interested in trying a lavender absolute, i really like the

way lavender smells fresh

Also, your resin advice is very good. As far as natural perfumery

goes, i want to stick to using non-alcoholic base as much as i can..

so i tend to stick to carrier base oils, such as almond sweet.

If i want to dilute the benzoin like you did, except using oil, do

you think i should make like a 50% dilution and see?

How does diluting in alcohol differ from using oil?

I guess i'm just going to have to be patient eh.. i thought about

diluting the whole benzoin EO i have, and just using a dropper from

then on whenever i wanted to try it in a natural perfume.. thoughts?

I have got some coin on me, so i have it in mind to grab some of that

agar musk attar.. For sure, if i ever smell it, i'll let you know a

detailed description.

How is the sandalwood absolute different from the eo?

Thanks again J,

Sherif

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> Sherif,

> I pour boiling water into a little bowl and let the

> jar of benzoin (or other resin) warm in the hot water

> to get it more workable. Then I use a measuring spoon

> which has to sit in perfumer's alcohol until the

> benzoin dissolves. I also use the toothpick or wooden

> BBQ skewer method sometimes. Maybe someone has a

> better method?

that technique sounds perfect.. I'm just wondering, after i make it

liquid like, do you think it would be a good idea to just dilute it

all? My natural perfumes are all oil based.. so i guess i could just

melt down the benzoin and dilute it all?

Is this wise or unwise?

I'm only doing this to make it easier to work with. Knowing that,

what kind of concentration would be good? 50%? Would that make it

able to just dropper it?

Thanks for your time ,

Sherif

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> All the best in your fragrant endeavors and I'm glad I could help!

> in north Dallas

>

Hey Jess, you also mentioned that these: Bornia, Pink Lotus, (both

EB) Blue Lotus (Essential

oil University), Geranium Bourbon (EOU), and Tuberose (EB)

are nice floral notes. I was wondering, could you rate them in terms

of how nice they smell? I don't have enough coin for them all, a

simple rating would be GREATLY appreciated.

Also, do you think labdanum is one i should grab? let me know.

Tonka bean?

Thanks ,

Sherif.

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(edited to approve this announcement on a non-AD day)

I am a producer of Helichrysum Essential Oil, right here in California USA

I have wonderful Helichrysum italicum oil, with a high Neryl Acetate content

(46.5%) in my last GC/MS report.

Let me know how I can best announce this to the group.

S

Sandy Messori

Rivendell Aromatics

805 649-2476

http://www.rivendellaromatics.com/

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> I am a producer of Helichrysum Essential Oil, right here in California USA

> I have wonderful Helichrysum italicum oil, with a high Neryl Acetate content

> (46.5%) in my last GC/MS report.

> Let me know how I can best announce this to the group.

> S

>

> Sandy Messori

Hi Sandy,

Thursday is AD day - you can post your own ad for your oils any Thursday.

By the way folks, Sandy is a neighbor who grows her own plants and distils her

own oils.

Tisserand