Re: FREE MOLD BOOK/Schaller, MD ERIC

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there you go again, putting those of us here, that are sick from

mold, in the same class as your sister. there is no one here that is

ignorant, all of us have studied different aspects of this ordeal,

and there are so many. I practice mold advoidence, the best I can.

some of us here have been exposed long term where we no longer have a

choise of staying in our homes and trying to fight it by eating

healthy, air cleaners, exc. some of us didn't even know what was

makeing us ill until it was to late to do anything but get out.

please drop the filling sorry for your self because everyone doesn't

see things your way. the purpose here is to share info. and recieve

it. none of it, alone is going to cure anybody, there is no cure, but

all of it together will help us all. I dont think one single person

has said that advoidence is not a good thing, its just not possable

for everyone to

do.

>

> > If you wanted to point out that you already figured out the

answers

> to these questions (I'd say you have, and I have too to some

degree,

> but that's beside the point here), I must say I don't understand

why

> you are citing them here as a reply to my suggestion to Dr Shaller?

> >

> > Dr Shaller certainly knows about these problems as well. My

> suggestion was made simply due to a well known fact that people

> ignorant about mold will NOT believe someone who is writing on a

> group, be that me or you, but there is a lot more chance they WILL

> believe if a certified doctor writes about the same topic,

describing

> his work on the subject, patients, and citing all the resources and

> references.<

> >

>

> Absolutely!

> I pointed it out because Mold Lifestyling and Extreme Avoidance

are

> the measures that this group has consistently and vehemently

rejected

> by saying " You keep insisting that your way is the only way " and

> a " One size fits all " strategy, because of my unpleasant

repetitions

> that these concepts are relevant and applicable under a wide range

of

> circumstances.

>

> I'll repeat the premise for refining this strategy of a more

> concerted effort at mold avoidance, but I want to make it TOTALLY

> clear that I am not trying to impose this concept on anyone who

> doesn't feel it applies to their situation - " Personal Impact

Rating " ,

> or even upon those who wish to avoid it for ANY reason at all, such

as

> according a lack of credibility and humility to the source.

> This is just an concept that I found to be quite helpful.

>

> The heightened sensitivity experienced by " getting clear " , also

> referred to as " running to the hills " (I LIKE those hills) allows a

> better perception of sources of exposure when the irritant is re-

> introduced.

> Making a concerted and conscious effort to " break the response "

and

> then going directly to the area or object to be " perceptified "

means

> the difference between just knowing that you feel generally crappy,

> and knowing that you feel especially crappy as a direct result of

> controlled proximity to the item being tested.

> This concept works regardless of HLA susceptibility - and applies

> only to ones PIR at the time of " re-exposure assessment " .

> This is useful because PIR's change over time - according to

duration

> of exposure.

> Moving directly from lowest possible response to testable sites

makes

> perception of " lesser " contamination zones more precise.

> Since biotoxin illness is not an allergy resolved by just

avoidance,

> but is more of a a long term strategy of controlling exposures, the

> more information that allows you to " push " toward decreased

exposure,

> the sooner you arrive at the desired goal.

>

> And you are certainly correct in that even concepts that are self

> evident tend to be rejected from uncredentialed sources, regardless

of

> the logic or inherent value contained in the basic premise.

> As I told Rick back in 1998 when he warned me how badly he

had

> been slamdunked and rejected by sufferers for trying to present

this

> information in the early 1990's, " They won't do that to me. They

can't

> just disregard my information. I'm a original Incline Village

survivor

> and prototype for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome who walked out of the

> ampligen program and returned to mountain climbing as a result of a

> strategy of mold avoidance. Only a brain dead moron could overlook

a

> story like that " .

> Rick laughed, and told me that he didn't think anyone would listen

to

> me.

> Well, Rick was right. Mold victims sure put him through it until

he

> just gave up trying to help them!

> And only now are they starting to learn that it was the sufferers

> themselves who took the lead in suppressing the information that

they

> so desperately needed.

> I have shown people pictures and had them say " But where's you

PROOF? "

> meaning that my physical demonstration of recovery meant nothing -

but

> if a doctor writes it down somewhere - that is much more acceptable

as

> being " real evidence " .

> I've even taken people into moldy places and had them react, but

then

> come back later and say " I really thought you were on to something -

> because I could feel it myself. But my doctor says that mold

> reactivity is impossible, so I guess you must be wrong. "

>

> Remember my story about insisting that mold was really making me

sick

> and my sister rhetorically said " So, you are saying that YOU are

> right, and ALL the doctors are wrong " and when I replied " Yes. That

is

> exactly what I am saying " , she responded " Well! You're an Arrogant

> Bastard! "

>

> What? She didn't care whether I was right or wrong. Just the

fact

> that I possessed such " audacity " that I dared to contradict the

> authority of doctors was enough to make me " arrogant " .

>

> Heck, if it turns out that I'm correct - wouldn't the verification

of

> my assertion mean that SHE was was the arrogant one for dismissing

an

> accurate concept merely because it came from a " nobody " ?

>

> But assertions of arrogance STILL doesn't detract from the veracity

of

> a concept. And it sure would be silly for someone who needs

> information to reject it because of who it came from, instead of

> whether the idea makes any sense or not.

>

> " The Truth is the Truth - Be it spake by the Devil himself "

>

> - the Devil himself.

>