Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment Many thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Hi Of course you can attend one of the open days. I'll forward your details to Dan at Programmed Response and they can contact you with an invitation. Thanks for your interest. I'd be interested in your community needs assessment framework because we need that in Fenland. Regards Penny -----Original Message-----From: sandmgraves@... [mailto:sandmgraves@...]Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: family Health PlansPennyAny chance of Thetford HVs visiting for your open day. We are very keen on developing/using electronic Family Health Plans and are going to commence a community needs assessment very soon.Look forward tohearing from you GravesThetford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Hi AlisonAre you interested in the database or the electronic tool? If it's the database then Jon or Dan at Programmed Response would be more knowledgeable tel 01372 371071. If its the tool then I can send you further information or you can visit the website, register and download the tool to have a look at the questions. The website is www.programmedresponse.comLook forward to hearing from you.Penny Re: family Health PlansAn electronic tool sounds interesting Penny. I too should appreciate info.Ruth family Health Plans>>>> We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be> really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to> evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information> from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment> Many thanks, >>>>> _________________________________________________________________> Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Thanks for your help Penny. Alison Re: family Health Plans An electronic tool sounds interesting Penny. I too should appreciate info. Ruth family Health Plans > > > > We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be > really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to > evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information > from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment > Many thanks, > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Could i also receive details of your core HV tasks please Lynn >From: " Margaret Buttigieg " <margaret@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: family Health Plans >Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 19:27:42 +0100 > >Hi Penny > >do you have any details of the HV Core Tasks you could send me - I am >working on those in several places > >Margaret > family Health Plans > > > >We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be >really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to >evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information >from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment >Many thanks, > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 I have been following the emails and the contact details you have given you will follow them up but it may be useful to speak at some point - do you have a contact number? thanks Lynn >From: " Penny " <penny@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: RE: family Health Plans >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:02:33 +0100 > >Hi Lynn >Do you want any additional information or are you happy to follow the >e-mail to Ruth? >Penny > > Re: family Health Plans > >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:55:11 +0100 > > > >An electronic tool sounds interesting Penny. I too should appreciate >info. > >Ruth > > family Health Plans > > > > > > > > > > > > We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and >would > >be > > > really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to > > > evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how > >information > > > from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 > > > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Hi Margaret These are the original core tasks agreed with the PCT but we are working on a light modification because we have merged with East Cambs and their Core programme is very different. Hope this is useful Penny Re: family Health Plans Hi Penny do you have any details of the HV Core Tasks you could send me - I am working on those in several places Margaret family Health Plans We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment Many thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Hi Margaret I have to say that the ante-natal contact isn't in place throughout the whole of Fenland yet as our staffing levels are too low but we will all be doing it soon. In South Fenland it is either an HV or a midwife doing the HNA, employed by Sure Start, or the local HVs. I run the ante-natal group for Sure Start and invite other people to participate, including their local midwife. The assessment of family's needs is agreed following discussion between the HV and the family and is their perceived needs around the wider determinants of health. The HV then offers the range of appropriate services which could be accessed to meet those needs and the family chooses whether to have an intervention or not at that time. If they decide they want a referral the programme has the capability to generate a local referral form and it is completed there and then in the home. This means that the family check its accuracy and content and can sign it if necessary and keep a copy themselves. The only thing we don't do yet is e-mail the referral because of data protection, but I guess that will come in time. The beauty of this system is that you can track the referral and enter the outcome once followed-up to ensure appropriateness, or offer an alternative source of support. Penny Re: family Health Plans Thanks for these Penny. I found it very interesting to see what you were able to do ant natally. In most London Boroughs and elsewhere they do not make ante natal contact any more so the new birth visit is cold - families often new to an area - and no preparation has been done. Is it you or the MW who does the HNA? I note the suggestion that the new birth visit may be done by the skill mix team - I wander how people really feel about that. My thoughts are that for some families the time restriction is inappropriate and HV need to think much more about the reason for the contact and what is best for this family at this time. I am seeing in many areas a paper filling exercise which meets no ones needs. I like the way you have much contact in the first year - do you have a way of assessing the families needs or is it agreed with them according to professional judgement. Margaret family Health Plans We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment Many thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 hi Penny Sorry having a bit a day here will ring you next week if that's ok Lynn >From: " Penny " <penny@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: RE: family Health Plans >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:49:18 +0100 > >Hi Lynn >My phone number is 01354 697906 >Penny > > Re: family Health Plans > > >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:55:11 +0100 > > > > > >An electronic tool sounds interesting Penny. I too should appreciate > >info. > > >Ruth > > > family Health Plans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and > >would > > >be > > > > really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity >to > > > > evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how > > >information > > > > from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment > > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 > > > > > > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Thanks for these Penny. I found it very interesting to see what you were able to do ant natally. In most London Boroughs and elsewhere they do not make ante natal contact any more so the new birth visit is cold - families often new to an area - and no preparation has been done. Is it you or the MW who does the HNA? I note the suggestion that the new birth visit may be done by the skill mix team - I wander how people really feel about that. My thoughts are that for some families the time restriction is inappropriate and HV need to think much more about the reason for the contact and what is best for this family at this time. I am seeing in many areas a paper filling exercise which meets no ones needs. I like the way you have much contact in the first year - do you have a way of assessing the families needs or is it agreed with them according to professional judgement. Margaret family Health Plans We are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would be really interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity to evaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how information from FHP is linked to wider health needs assessment Many thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental & pgmarket=en-gb & XAPID=186 & DI=1059 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 Hello Penny, I was interested in your writing about not being able to email a referral because of data protection. I am not quite clear on issues surrounding electronic communication. A while ago I had a conversation with someone in UKCC (so that was a while ago!) and the gist of it was that banks are probably more at risk of someone trying to hack into their systems than health or social services. And provided that someone's details are not sent to a group email address and is specifically addressed to one person, the risk to confidentiality is low. At present most email addresses to social services end in .gov.uk and most nhs addresses end in .nhs.uk (correct me if I am wrong). So the risk of sending a patient/client's details to someone who is not bound by the data protection act and confidentiality clause should be minimal. I would like to know more about about the risks involved in communicating with my colleagues electronically whether at interagency level or locally within my Trust. According to people I know who have some IT knowledge, I am told that NHS servors are a secure anyway, so information is sent through secure channels. In this current age of electronic everything e.g: banking, shopping, booking holdays, tickets...etc, I feel I need clear guidelines for work and very good reasons for why we can't communicate electronically. Incidentally, new births details and new registrations are faxed over to me all the time from GPs and colleagues as I cover my patch geographically. Is this so different from receiving information electronically and by phone (would anyone want to bug my line?). Sue Penny <penny@...> wrote: Hi MargaretI have to say that the ante-natal contact isn't in place throughout the whole of Fenland yet as our staffing levels are too low but we will all be doing it soon. In South Fenland it is either an HV or a midwife doing the HNA, employed by Sure Start, or the local HVs. I run the ante-natal group for Sure Start and invite other people to participate, including their local midwife. The assessment of family's needs is agreed following discussion between the HV and the family and is their perceived needs around the wider determinants of health. The HV then offers the range of appropriate services which could be accessed to meet those needs and the family chooses whether to have an intervention or not at that time. If they decide they want a referral the programme has the capability to generate a local referral form and it is completed there and then in the home. This means that the family check its accuracy and content and can sign it if necessary and keep a copy themselves. The only thing we don't do yet is e-mail the referral because of data protection, but I guess that will come in time. The beauty of this system is that you can track the referral and enter the outcome once followed-up to ensure appropriateness, or offer an alternative source of support.Penny-----Original Message-----From: Margaret Buttigieg [mailto:margaret@...]Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: Re: family Health PlansThanks for these Penny.I found it very interesting to see what you were able to do ant natally. Inmost London Boroughs and elsewhere they do not make ante natal contact anymore so the new birth visit is cold - families often new to an area - and nopreparation has been done. Is it you or the MW who does the HNA?I note the suggestion that the new birth visit may be done by the skill mixteam - I wander how people really feel about that. My thoughts are that forsome families the time restriction is inappropriate and HV need to thinkmuch more about the reason for the contact and what is best for this familyat this time. I am seeing in many areas a paper filling exercise whichmeets no ones needs.I like the way you have much contact in the first year - do you have a wayof assessing the families needs or is it agreed with them according toprofessional judgement.Margaret RE: family Health PlansHi ChrisWe've got it approved through the PCT devlopment plan and their StrategicAction Plan. We've also presented a paper to the Exec for the HV Core Tasksas part of the modernisation agenda. The reality is that it saves a lot ofclerical time and gives rich public health data for analysis of local feltneeds which may persuade a PCT to fund the database. There are pots of ITmoney and innovation money for which bids can be made.Penny-----Original Message-----From: Manning [mailto:chris.manning@...]Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: RE: family Health PlansDear PennyThanks for details of this. In terms of implementationand cost of £2000-2500..where does this sit? On thePCT server? Who pays?Chris-----Original Message-----From: Penny [mailto:penny@...]Sent: 04 April 2003 09:34 Subject: RE: family Health PlansHi ChrisThat sounds exciting. Do tell me more, or phone me on 01354 697906.Penny-----Original Message-----From: Manning [mailto:chris.manning@...]Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: RE: family Health PlansImportance: HighDear PennyI would dearly love to be able to include what you are doing in PriMHE'sprimary care mental health resource pack..in devpt with mentality and NIMHE.We very much want also to produce a CDROM with latest work in it so thatpeopleover the whole UK can be enabled by what you are doing?Best WishesManningCE PriMHEwww.primhe.org-----Original Message-----From: Penny [mailto:penny@...]Sent: 03 April 2003 13:39 Subject: RE: family Health PlansH The electronic health needs assessment tool we have developed in Fenland isused to develop the family health plan, which then also informs thecommunity needs assessment. Other information is also required for thecommunity needs assessment from other agengies, but the HNAT is a goodstart. The information is collated in a database and we'll soon havecomparative data from other areas which are rolling it out, such as Cumbriaand then Exeter, through Sure Start.I'd be pleased to give you any information you require.Penny - HV Sure Start south Fenland and Prof Lead for HVs in Fenland-----Original Message-----From: Blakemore [mailto:edwinablakemore@...]Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: family Health PlansWe are forming a working party to look at family health plans and would bereally interested in hearing from anyone who has had an opportunity toevaluate their effectiveness. Would also be interested in how informationfrom FHP is linked to wider health needs assessmentMany thanks, _________________________________________________________________Worried what your kids see online? 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