Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Edited to correct top post and snipped..... Maggie replied: >> Wow, that's a little alarming. I had no idea one had to be so wary when purchasing sandalwood. Both the Vanatu and the other oil where similar in their difference from what I was expecting, though not entirely identical to each other side-by-side. The gentleman from FPI explained that this oil was sourced from Indian origin, though it was not Mysore, and that this was the last stock they would received from this source. They were currently looking into an alternate source that would be twice as expensive. Thank you for the suggestion for blending. That is in fact what I will experiment with next. Maggie Hello and thanks for letting me join your discussion. I am new to this group, but not to the cosmetics and body care industry. I have been reading along and would like to comment on this subject. Yes, the price of sandalwood has gone through the roof lately. We purchase Santalum album from a trusted source in India -- there is rampant adulteration going on with this oil, usually by mixing with castor and/or cedarwood oils -- and I have reverted from purchasing 5-10 kilos at a time to 500-1000 grams at a time. The increase is incredible. Characteristically, the 'album' has a very smooth scent and is somewhat viscous. I personally have not seen a (real) Mysore sandalwood oil in ages. We used to carry the Santalum austrocaledonicum -- which I believe is the species to which you refer when you mention a spicy characteristic in the oil -- but it too became cost prohibitive. We purchased it directly from the distiller in Tahiti. The wood was from Vanuatu origin. The scent was less sweet than the 'album' species, and also somewhat thinner in viscosity. It does have a somewhat spicy note to it. There is interesting information regarding the shortage of sandalwood oil at http://www.fao.org/documents/show_cdr.asp?url_file=/docrep/008/x4133e/X4 133E15.htm. I think we are going to have to get used to the new pricing structure. Trina Wallace Snowdrift Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > > Wow, that's a little alarming. I had no idea one had to be so wary > when purchasing sandalwood. > > Both the Vanatu and the other oil where similar in their difference > from what I was expecting, though not entirely identical to each > other side-by-side. The gentleman from FPI explained that this oil > was sourced from Indian origin, though it was not Mysore, and that > this was the last stock they would received from this source. They > were currently looking into an alternate source that would be twice > as expensive. > > Thank you for the suggestion for blending. That is in fact what I > will experiment with next. > > Maggie Hi Maggie, It sounds like the supplier has old stock on hand and is still selling it at the old price, even though the repurchase price has doubled. This is the best time to purchase (assuming the oil is good and the quality is acceptable to you). Good sw oil of Indian origin does not need to come from Mysore. Enjoy! Will Eden Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 > Hello and thanks for letting me join your discussion. I am new to this > group, but not to the cosmetics and body care industry. I have been > reading along and would like to comment on this subject. > > Yes, the price of sandalwood has gone through the roof lately. We > purchase Santalum album from a trusted source in India -- there is > rampant adulteration going on with this oil, usually by mixing with > castor and/or cedarwood oils -- and I have reverted from purchasing > 5-10 > kilos at a time to 500-1000 grams at a time. The increase is > incredible. > Characteristically, the 'album' has a very smooth scent and is > somewhat > viscous. I personally have not seen a (real) Mysore sandalwood oil in > ages. > > We used to carry the Santalum austrocaledonicum -- which I believe is > the species to which you refer when you mention a spicy characteristic > in the oil -- but it too became cost prohibitive. We purchased it > directly from the distiller in Tahiti. The wood was from Vanuatu > origin. > The scent was less sweet than the 'album' species, and also somewhat > thinner in viscosity. It does have a somewhat spicy note to it. > > There is interesting information regarding the shortage of sandalwood > oil at > http://www.fao.org/documents/show_cdr.asp?url_file=/docrep/008/ > x4133e/X4 > 133E15.htm. I think we are going to have to get used to the new > pricing > structure. > > Trina Wallace > Snowdrift Farm Hi Trina, Thanks for your input and all your insight! I am interested in the link you gave, but I tried it unsuccessfully. It also seems that (real) Mysore sw oil has also been either adulterated or just poor quality (made from low quality wood) for a long time. Real Mysore sw oil has a seal and stamp from the government on it, but again it hasn't been very good for many years. If the FAO link is still active, please repost it for us. It is hard for everyone to get used to the new pricing structure. Many people are also working on alternatives to sw oil, because of the price, also because it is just not available as a quality oil, and also because they feel the need to not contribute to more trees being lost. Thanks again, Will Eden Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 On 17/05/06, Eden Botanicals <wjl@...> wrote: > > Hi Trina, > > Thanks for your input and all your insight! I am interested in the > link you gave, but I tried it unsuccessfully. It also seems that > (real) Mysore sw oil has also been either adulterated or just poor > quality (made from low quality wood) for a long time. Real Mysore sw > oil has a seal and stamp from the government on it, but again it > hasn't been very good for many years. If the FAO link is still > active, please repost it for us. > http://tinyurl.com/r7wme There you go Will, that should work. Let me know if you have any problems with it. LLx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Edited to correct top post and trimmed..... Hi Trina, Thanks for your input and all your insight! I am interested in the link you gave, but I tried it unsuccessfully. It also seems that (real) Mysore sw oil has also been either adulterated or just poor quality (made from low quality wood) for a long time. Real Mysore sw oil has a seal and stamp from the government on it, but again it hasn't been very good for many years. If the FAO link is still active, please repost it for us. Hi Will, Thanks for your reply. Yes, so much adulteration goes on with sandalwood, it's sad. I agree wholeheartedly that there are several lovely sandalwoods from India besides the mysore -- if we can believe it is really mysore! That FAO link got separated into 2 lines in my last post. Here it is again, but make sure the entire address (between the **'s) is in the box before you press enter: **http://www.fao.org/documents/show_cdr.asp?url_file=/docrep/008/x4133e/ X4133E15.htm ** Trina at Snowdrift Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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