RE: MCS products/Essential oil f/u

March 26, 2006

I REFUSE to EVER recommend EO's for anyone hwo is chemically injured.

It's a temproary fix that *IN MY OPINON* causes more trouble down the

line.

As you are aware the brain is lipophilic and once the BBB is compromised

and the selectivity has been removed, anything hits the brain. The oils

are naturally attracted to the brain and how long they remain is still

questionable. Also, people THINK that EO's are just a *fragnce type

thing* when in fact it is a *chemical/drug8 as it does effect/elict a

response aka relaxation as an example.

Ther are enough safe products that promote the same thing...such as bach

flowers rescue remedy if you want to deal with stress and relax. Works

GREAT for those who are afraid of flying. Safe and more effective than

valium/xanax.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, jschaller wrote:

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:19:41 -0500

> From: jschaller <jschaller@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] MCS products/Essential oil f/u

>

> Angel,

>

> Great lessons.

>

> Any line of essential oils better than others in your veteran experience?

>

> Any essential oils you feel are deathly troublesome?

>

> I use rarely, but just for my info.

>

> I like them in some folks, but do wish practitioner would get the toxicity

> signs books on essential oils.

>

> Best,

>

> Schaller, MD

> Tampa, FL

>

> [] Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

>>>

>>>> Hi Mygla, with me it has been mostly a trail and error . I have

>>>> omitted sugar from my diet, except chocalate, hehe, one of my biggest

>>>> graveings, my body tells me what I can have or not have. if you have

>>>> problems with smells like perfumes, chemicals, gases, exc.MCS,

>>>> multiple chemical sensativitys, you have to make your home as free

>>>> of these things as possable. here we have some shampoos, laudry

>>>> detergents, and soaps with lesser perfume smells, again its a trail

>>>> and error or if you can get a friend to do this shopping for you that

>>>> is not ill from mold, they can smell different products for you, and

>>>> get them for you so you dont have to get sick just trying to find

>>>> these products. no question is stupied here, we all have many

>>>> unanswered questions.

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I hope it is ok to ask you here this silly questions - but I have

>>>> been

>>>>> alone for so long struggling to find out what fits me - because NO

>>>> one

>>>>> can advise me in the whole country - Iceland.

>>>>> I would really like to know if you have a database for what works

>>>> for

>>>>> you and what to avoid - I know that everything doesnt fit all - but

>>>>> can give you a good idea though.

>>>>> Do you have this database or can we make it here?

>>>>>

>>>>> How do you handle aspartame and saccharin - do you use it instead of

>>>>> suger or skip it at all?

>>>>>

>>>>> What do you use to wash laundry or in the dishwasher? Do you make

>>>>> something yourseld - we have no products here in Iceland that I can

>>>> use.

>>>>>

>>>>> Do many of you use tea tree oil? - I use it often for washing and

>>>>> cleaning?

>>>>>

>>>>> What about shampoos and conditioner - can you make a good

>>>> conditioner

>>>>> yourself?

>>>>>

>>>>> Have some of you tried Emu oil - that is the only body lotion i can

>>>>> use - and their facial cream is so great.

>>>>>

>>>>> Kind regards

>>>>> Greetings from the cold in Iceland

>>>>> Mygla

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>>

March 26, 2006

Angel,

What is BBB? I was thinking Better Business Bureau, but that didn't quit

make sense. hehehe And, since we are making our list this week of abbrev.

I will need help with this one. Hope I'm not the only one. But, if I

am-I will now be in the loop.

Thanx,

[] Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

>>>>

>>>>> Hi Mygla, with me it has been mostly a trail and error . I have

>>>>> omitted sugar from my diet, except chocalate, hehe, one of my biggest

>>>>> graveings, my body tells me what I can have or not have. if you have

>>>>> problems with smells like perfumes, chemicals, gases, exc.MCS,

>>>>> multiple chemical sensativitys, you have to make your home as free

>>>>> of these things as possable. here we have some shampoos, laudry

>>>>> detergents, and soaps with lesser perfume smells, again its a trail

>>>>> and error or if you can get a friend to do this shopping for you that

>>>>> is not ill from mold, they can smell different products for you, and

>>>>> get them for you so you dont have to get sick just trying to find

>>>>> these products. no question is stupied here, we all have many

>>>>> unanswered questions.

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I hope it is ok to ask you here this silly questions - but I have

>>>>> been

>>>>>> alone for so long struggling to find out what fits me - because NO

>>>>> one

>>>>>> can advise me in the whole country - Iceland.

>>>>>> I would really like to know if you have a database for what works

>>>>> for

>>>>>> you and what to avoid - I know that everything doesnt fit all - but

>>>>>> can give you a good idea though.

>>>>>> Do you have this database or can we make it here?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> How do you handle aspartame and saccharin - do you use it instead of

>>>>>> suger or skip it at all?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What do you use to wash laundry or in the dishwasher? Do you make

>>>>>> something yourseld - we have no products here in Iceland that I can

>>>>> use.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do many of you use tea tree oil? - I use it often for washing and

>>>>>> cleaning?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What about shampoos and conditioner - can you make a good

>>>>> conditioner

>>>>>> yourself?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Have some of you tried Emu oil - that is the only body lotion i can

>>>>>> use - and their facial cream is so great.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kind regards

>>>>>> Greetings from the cold in Iceland

>>>>>> Mygla

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>>>

March 26, 2006

Blood Brain Barrier

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, wrote:

> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:48:23 -0500

> From: <eaglestone@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] MCS products/Essential oil f/u

>

> Angel,

> What is BBB? I was thinking Better Business Bureau, but that didn't quit

> make sense. hehehe And, since we are making our list this week of abbrev.

> I will need help with this one. Hope I'm not the only one. But, if I

> am-I will now be in the loop.

> Thanx,

>

> [] Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi Mygla, with me it has been mostly a trail and error . I have

>>>>>> omitted sugar from my diet, except chocalate, hehe, one of my biggest

>>>>>> graveings, my body tells me what I can have or not have. if you have

>>>>>> problems with smells like perfumes, chemicals, gases, exc.MCS,

>>>>>> multiple chemical sensativitys, you have to make your home as free

>>>>>> of these things as possable. here we have some shampoos, laudry

>>>>>> detergents, and soaps with lesser perfume smells, again its a trail

>>>>>> and error or if you can get a friend to do this shopping for you that

>>>>>> is not ill from mold, they can smell different products for you, and

>>>>>> get them for you so you dont have to get sick just trying to find

>>>>>> these products. no question is stupied here, we all have many

>>>>>> unanswered questions.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hope it is ok to ask you here this silly questions - but I have

>>>>>> been

>>>>>>> alone for so long struggling to find out what fits me - because NO

>>>>>> one

>>>>>>> can advise me in the whole country - Iceland.

>>>>>>> I would really like to know if you have a database for what works

>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> you and what to avoid - I know that everything doesnt fit all - but

>>>>>>> can give you a good idea though.

>>>>>>> Do you have this database or can we make it here?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> How do you handle aspartame and saccharin - do you use it instead of

>>>>>>> suger or skip it at all?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What do you use to wash laundry or in the dishwasher? Do you make

>>>>>>> something yourseld - we have no products here in Iceland that I can

>>>>>> use.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Do many of you use tea tree oil? - I use it often for washing and

>>>>>>> cleaning?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What about shampoos and conditioner - can you make a good

>>>>>> conditioner

>>>>>>> yourself?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Have some of you tried Emu oil - that is the only body lotion i can

>>>>>>> use - and their facial cream is so great.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Kind regards

>>>>>>> Greetings from the cold in Iceland

>>>>>>> Mygla

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>>>>

March 26, 2006

You're not the only one who is wondering what

BBB is. :-/ I'd like to know too!

Barb

--- <eaglestone@...> wrote:

> Angel,

> What is BBB? I was thinking Better Business Bureau,

> but that didn't quit

> make sense. hehehe And, since we are making our

> list this week of abbrev.

> I will need help with this one. Hope I'm not the

> only one. But, if I

> am-I will now be in the loop.

> Thanx,

>

__________________________________________________

March 26, 2006

Hi Angel:

>>I REFUSE to EVER recommend EO's for anyone hwo is chemically injured.

It's a temproary fix that *IN MY OPINON* causes more trouble down the

line.>>

It's wonderful that we can lovingly disagree. A high quality, organic

essential oil steam distilled, well diluted and chosen for a specific action

can have healing action on the emotional and physical areas of a body if

they person is tolerant of the essential oil. There are many scientific

studies on medicinal aromatherapy with excellent results. I have over 100

essential oils, used them for many applications and have excellent results.

One of my earliest books on the subject is written by Valnet, M.D.

When working with someone with MCS I always ask first if they can tolerate

the essential oils. Often they will say no because that is what they have

heard but is not always the case with them in actual practice. Much depends

upon their sensitivity and to state they case more trouble down the line

would be and can be scientifically argued in my opinion.

However, the oils must be high quality, steam and not hexane or other

chemicals used to distill them and organic in some cases. Dilution rate is

critical (less not more) and very few should be used internally unless

directed by a professional.

>>As you are aware the brain is lipophilic and once the BBB is compromised

and the selectivity has been removed, anything hits the brain. The oils

are naturally attracted to the brain and how long they remain is still

questionable. Also, people THINK that EO's are just a *fragnce type

thing* when in fact it is a *chemical/drug8 as it does effect/elict a

response aka relaxation as an example.>>

Correct, however in medicinal aromatherapy we do not consider pure essential

oils " fragrance type thing " ; we consider them part of the healing protocol

if used wisely with training. Too many are using incorrect EO's, improper

dilution rates and misused in general.

>>>Ther are enough safe products that promote the same thing...such as bach

flowers rescue remedy if you want to deal with stress and relax. Works

GREAT for those who are afraid of flying. Safe and more effective than

valium/xanax.>>>

Not everyone responds to Bach or similar flower remedies. I've heard

unfortunately the Bach line was sold and the quality of the remedies has

changed. Also some with severe MCS and the universal reactors cannot

tolerate the 25-35% alcohol used in the remedies are preservatives. So

again we have to use caution. Flower remedies can also cause a reaction in

some that is not pleasant which is also well documented.

We also have some wonderful medicinal herbs which can be used to reduce

stress and anxiety both for animals and humans as well as homeopathic

remedies. So many products on the market and since MSCers are unique in

just as those with toxic mold illness we must be careful what we use. I try

not to throw out the baby with the bathwater but prepare the bathwater that

is suitable to the baby's needs.

Rosie

March 26, 2006

> It's wonderful that we can lovingly disagree. A high quality, organic

> essential oil steam distilled, well diluted and chosen for a specific action

> can have healing action on the emotional and physical areas of a body if

> they person is tolerant of the essential oil. There are many scientific

> studies on medicinal aromatherapy with excellent results. I have over 100

> essential oils, used them for many applications and have excellent results.

> One of my earliest books on the subject is written by Valnet, M.D.

It still is a *chemical* that hits the brain if the BBB is comprimised.

If

not it still ACTS like a drug as in order to create *relation* it must go

thru the CNS...againn, the *brain*

03 is used for some medical procedures but it is not beneficial outside of

the extreme alt med protocols. Same, IMO about EO's.

>

> When working with someone with MCS I always ask first if they can tolerate

> the essential oils. Often they will say no because that is what they have

> heard but is not always the case with them in actual practice. Much depends

> upon their sensitivity and to state they case more trouble down the line

> would be and can be scientifically argued in my opinion.

I am *guessing* that you are from your references a aromatherapist wehich

I feel and will stand very stanuch on this, something that is not

applicable to those with chemical injury.

There is no way to prove that the oils ever leave the brain.

>

> However, the oils must be high quality, steam and not hexane or other

> chemicals used to distill them and organic in some cases. Dilution rate is

> critical (less not more) and very few should be used internally unless

I agree that the distillation process has to be steam etc., also they

have to have also been grown organically.

>

>>> As you are aware the brain is lipophilic and once the BBB is compromised

> and the selectivity has been removed, anything hits the brain. The oils

> are naturally attracted to the brain and how long they remain is still

> questionable. Also, people THINK that EO's are just a *fragnce type

> thing* when in fact it is a *chemical/drug8 as it does effect/elict a

> response aka relaxation as an example.>>

>

> Correct, however in medicinal aromatherapy we do not consider pure essential

> oils " fragrance type thing " ; we consider them part of the healing protocol

> if used wisely with training. Too many are using incorrect EO's, improper

> dilution rates and misused in general.

I have had this aromatherpy being helpful with too many other

practitioners and I understand what they think is beneficial, but I also

know the physiology that it utilizes and I am not one to add any more

chems albeit natural/synthetic to an already overtaxed system.

Are there any studies that prove that the oils do not take up residence in

the adipose that cushions/protects the internal organs of the body?

In the studies are these independent or industry related? I would be

curious to find out if there were any tests done on how long the oils

actually take to be removed from the system. is there a documented half

life to these?

>

>>>> Ther are enough safe products that promote the same thing...such as bach

> flowers rescue remedy if you want to deal with stress and relax. Works

> GREAT for those who are afraid of flying. Safe and more effective than

> valium/xanax.>>>

>

> Not everyone responds to Bach or similar flower remedies. I've heard

> unfortunately the Bach line was sold and the quality of the remedies has

> changed. Also some with severe MCS and the universal reactors cannot

> tolerate the 25-35% alcohol used in the remedies are preservatives. So

> again we have to use caution. Flower remedies can also cause a reaction in

> some that is not pleasant which is also well documented.

>

There is a very simple way for the universal reactors to use alcohol based

homeopathics.

Placement of 1-2 drops in a full glass of water, stir it up and then take

1-2 drops of it on the inner wrist and rub it in. They can also be placed

in the belly button.

Then again, those who have a semi background in homepthay can just do 1-2

more dilutions and it would work fine.

those who use a homeopath who use an EAV machine can make up the remedy by

imprinting it into a water based solution and that completely removes all

traces of alcohol coming in contact with them.

> We also have some wonderful medicinal herbs which can be used to reduce

> stress and anxiety both for animals and humans as well as homeopathic

> remedies. So many products on the market and since MSCers are unique in

> just as those with toxic mold illness we must be careful what we use. I try

> not to throw out the baby with the bathwater but prepare the bathwater that

> is suitable to the baby's needs.

There are certain treatmeents/remedies that I willnot compromise and those

associated with my foundation know better to even consider bringing them

up for discussion. The 2 main ones are 03 and EO's.

Even with my background in naturopathy and I know the claims of those who

swear by them, I jsut know that they will not work and there is always a

consequence to adding more stress to an overtaoxic system. AKA laten

reactors.

Angel

>

> Rosie

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

March 26, 2006

Thank you Angel.

[] Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hi Mygla, with me it has been mostly a trail and error . I have

>>>>>>> omitted sugar from my diet, except chocalate, hehe, one of my

>>>>>>> biggest

>>>>>>> graveings, my body tells me what I can have or not have. if you have

>>>>>>> problems with smells like perfumes, chemicals, gases, exc.MCS,

>>>>>>> multiple chemical sensativitys, you have to make your home as free

>>>>>>> of these things as possable. here we have some shampoos, laudry

>>>>>>> detergents, and soaps with lesser perfume smells, again its a trail

>>>>>>> and error or if you can get a friend to do this shopping for you

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>> is not ill from mold, they can smell different products for you, and

>>>>>>> get them for you so you dont have to get sick just trying to find

>>>>>>> these products. no question is stupied here, we all have many

>>>>>>> unanswered questions.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I hope it is ok to ask you here this silly questions - but I have

>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>>> alone for so long struggling to find out what fits me - because NO

>>>>>>> one

>>>>>>>> can advise me in the whole country - Iceland.

>>>>>>>> I would really like to know if you have a database for what works

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> you and what to avoid - I know that everything doesnt fit all - but

>>>>>>>> can give you a good idea though.

>>>>>>>> Do you have this database or can we make it here?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> How do you handle aspartame and saccharin - do you use it instead

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>> suger or skip it at all?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What do you use to wash laundry or in the dishwasher? Do you make

>>>>>>>> something yourseld - we have no products here in Iceland that I can

>>>>>>> use.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Do many of you use tea tree oil? - I use it often for washing and

>>>>>>>> cleaning?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What about shampoos and conditioner - can you make a good

>>>>>>> conditioner

>>>>>>>> yourself?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Have some of you tried Emu oil - that is the only body lotion i can

>>>>>>>> use - and their facial cream is so great.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Kind regards

>>>>>>>> Greetings from the cold in Iceland

>>>>>>>> Mygla

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>>>>>>>

March 26, 2006

Oh good. hehehe

Re:Re: [] MCS products/Essential oil f/u

> You're not the only one who is wondering what

> BBB is. :-/ I'd like to know too!

>

> Barb

>

> --- <eaglestone@...> wrote:

>

>> Angel,

>> What is BBB? I was thinking Better Business Bureau,

>> but that didn't quit

>> make sense. hehehe And, since we are making our

>> list this week of abbrev.

>> I will need help with this one. Hope I'm not the

>> only one. But, if I

>> am-I will now be in the loop.

>> Thanx,

>>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

March 26, 2006

On Behalf Of Angel!!

>>>>I have had this aromatherpy being helpful with too many other

practitioners and I understand what they think is beneficial, but I also

know the physiology that it utilizes and I am not one to add any more

chems albeit natural/synthetic to an already overtaxed system.>>>

Smiles and good morning Angel. It's a gorgeous day today, almost perfect.

We are just going to lovingly disagree on the use and safety of essential

oils. That's ok and I'll not discuss further with you after this post since

we are in such disagreement and certainly don't need to go further.

My only response to your statement above is that you are adding chemicals to

the overtaxed systems since the products you are recommending contain many

synthetic chemicals to which MCSers have reacted and would not use in my

" circle " . Smiles, giggles and let's shake hands and stay friends.

>>>>>Are there any studies that prove that the oils do not take up residence

in the adipose that cushions/protects the internal organs of the body?>>>

Smiles again...do have any double blind scientific studies conducted over

decades to show that the synthetic chemicals in the products you sell and

use are not harmful long term in the human body as some studies are showing?

>>There is a very simple way for the universal reactors to use alcohol based

homeopathics.

Placement of 1-2 drops in a full glass of water, stir it up and then take

1-2 drops of it on the inner wrist and rub it in. They can also be placed

in the belly button.>>

Smiles again. Homeopathics are prescribed as you know not only by their

name but also potency such as 6X, 30C, 200C and higher. When we dilute them

such as you suggested we change their potency and their expected action in

the body.

Flower remedies are also high dilutions of the flowers. The original

finished product is the stock and further dilutions is the remedy itself.

So, we change the potency again with further dilutions.

>>Then again, those who have a semi background in homepthay can just do 1-2

more dilutions and it would work fine.>>>

Well, a qualified homeopath is usually very careful in selecting potency

he/she prescribes and doing a 1-2 dilution is not like adding 1+1=2 in

homeopathy so I don't usually recommend this to people.

>>those who use a homeopath who use an EAV machine can make up the remedy by

imprinting it into a water based solution and that completely removes all

traces of alcohol coming in contact with them.>>

That is true however not everyone has access to a homeopath (money) who has

this EAV machine. For me it's easier ordering pellets from a homeopath

company for those who cannot tolerate alcohol if they do not have access to

a homeopath or cannot afford to see one. Course I only suggest low potency

remedies which are over the counter for general acute things such as Apis

for a bee sting, ledum for insect bite, arnica for bruises and so forth.

The rest I'll leave to the experts.

>>>There are certain treatmeents/remedies that I willnot compromise and

those associated with my foundation know better to even consider bringing

them up for discussion. The 2 main ones are 03 and EO's.>>>

Thanks for sharing. It's ok, it's a beautiful world and there are so many

protocols available to all of us that sometimes it can become overwhelming

and I've found it's best to focus on several different protocols and learn

as much about their use. Peace on this subject Angel.

Rosie

March 27, 2006

> We are just going to lovingly disagree on the use and safety of essential

> oils. That's ok and I'll not discuss further with you after this post since

> we are in such disagreement and certainly don't need to go further.

> My only response to your statement above is that you are adding chemicals to

> the overtaxed systems since the products you are recommending contain many

> synthetic chemicals to which MCSers have reacted and would not use in my

> " circle " . Smiles, giggles and let's shake hands and stay friends.

ok, but those I stated are not lipophilic and don't stay in the brain

>

>>>>>> Are there any studies that prove that the oils do not take up residence

> in the adipose that cushions/protects the internal organs of the body?>>>

>

> Smiles again...do have any double blind scientific studies conducted over

> decades to show that the synthetic chemicals in the products you sell and

> use are not harmful long term in the human body as some studies are showing?

>

But that did not answer the queastion....are there studies where the brain

is not absorbing and harboring the EO's?

>>> There is a very simple way for the universal reactors to use alcohol based

>

> homeopathics.

> Placement of 1-2 drops in a full glass of water, stir it up and then take

> 1-2 drops of it on the inner wrist and rub it in. They can also be placed

> in the belly button.>>

>

> Smiles again. Homeopathics are prescribed as you know not only by their

> name but also potency such as 6X, 30C, 200C and higher. When we dilute them

> such as you suggested we change their potency and their expected action in

> the body.

Nope, this is the standard protocol from Board Certified homeopaths that I

deal with inorder to get thier clients to take them.

Again, EAV can imprint the remedy into a vial of water that would satisfy

any potnetial for changing the potency.

I have literaly over 200 homeopathic remedies both in pellets, tablets,

water and alcohol base. I have not had anyone have a problem using them

via the imprint system of their naturopath.

>

> Flower remedies are also high dilutions of the flowers. The original

> finished product is the stock and further dilutions is the remedy itself.

> So, we change the potency again with further dilutions.

>

>>> Then again, those who have a semi background in homepthay can just do 1-2

> more dilutions and it would work fine.>>>

>

> Well, a qualified homeopath is usually very careful in selecting potency

> he/she prescribes and doing a 1-2 dilution is not like adding 1+1=2 in

> homeopathy so I don't usually recommend this to people.

>

I did not say 1+1=2. I have a board certified homepath on my board and

also one as a consult and these are their recommendations basedon their

qualifications.

>>> those who use a homeopath who use an EAV machine can make up the remedy by

>

> imprinting it into a water based solution and that completely removes all

> traces of alcohol coming in contact with them.>>

>

> That is true however not everyone has access to a homeopath (money) who has

> this EAV machine. For me it's easier ordering pellets from a homeopath

> company for those who cannot tolerate alcohol if they do not have access to

> a homeopath or cannot afford to see one. Course I only suggest low potency

> remedies which are over the counter for general acute things such as Apis

> for a bee sting, ledum for insect bite, arnica for bruises and so forth.

> The rest I'll leave to the experts.

>

There are always homepaths who can imprint a remedy and will do it via a

telephone consult. You are aware of the NEW system that they are using

where you literally do not have to be in the practiioners office for a

treatment/consult. There is a hand held device analogous to a computer

moue tht is read and it can be done long distance. I was exposed to this

at the annual naturopaths conference. It's a company out of Utah (I

think).

My personal homeopath is getting the system and I will b eusing it for

both myself and her other clients in this area.

Accessibility is only limited to restrictions placed by the individual.

>

>>>> There are certain treatmeents/remedies that I willnot compromise and

> those associated with my foundation know better to even consider bringing

> them up for discussion. The 2 main ones are 03 and EO's.>>>

>

> Thanks for sharing. It's ok, it's a beautiful world and there are so many

> protocols available to all of us that sometimes it can become overwhelming

> and I've found it's best to focus on several different protocols and learn

> as much about their use. Peace on this subject Angel.

> Rosie

Rosie...it's easy to sum it up...we both agree and disagree

Sooner or later someone somewhere is gonna find the key to unlock this

malady and these discussions hopefully will be a thing of the past

Angel

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

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