Efficacy of neurofeedback for developmental disorders

[Guest guest]

I've seen sites that claim 80 sessions is enough for autism. The

maximum figure I've seen in the studies is 200.

As someone with Asperger's, ADD and PTSD and as one who has done

probably more than 500 sessions by now, I can say that number is

ridicilous unless seasoned practitioners have some magic tools I don't

have access to.

I have achieved symptom remediation but OTOH I have done several other

things than NFB so there's no way of telling how much of the effect is

due to it.

T

[Guest guest]

Hey, Tommi,

I'm interested in how this is going for you. My son has done a lot

of sessions, too. Maybe not 500. 200+ in 2005 & 2006. I never

thought we could train him to " be like other people, " but I'm pretty

sure there's more to be done with attention and learning eventually.

Don't you wonder where these people are at the end of training, be

it 80 or 200 sessions, if 200 is " enough? " If you begin with clear

goals that you can measure I suppose when they're met, you're done.

Do you have goals you've been unable to meet so far in training?

One of my goals was to feel normal again. Ha ha! You can't measure

that. You can measure the number of times something occurs, though

or periods when something doesn't occur.

Many people do have ways of getting results quicker than figuring it

out on your own. That's why we have to pay them!

Hoping you're getting closer,

Rah

(not born in 1982)

>

> I've seen sites that claim 80 sessions is enough for autism. The

> maximum figure I've seen in the studies is 200.

>

> As someone with Asperger's, ADD and PTSD and as one who has done

> probably more than 500 sessions by now, I can say that number is

> ridicilous unless seasoned practitioners have some magic tools I

don't

> have access to.

>

> I have achieved symptom remediation but OTOH I have done several

other

> things than NFB so there's no way of telling how much of the

effect is

> due to it.

>

> T

>

[Guest guest]

I am doing everything I can to make sure I can become neurotypical and

possibly even beyond that. Neurofeedback can only solve a rather small

part of the equation, although deep brain HEG could be a promising

avenue. I expect more from things like rTMS.

I know that the people in the studies haven't become neurotypical

after the 80 to 200 sessions. What I think is pretty tough for parents

is the price they may pay for those sessions (I don't know - $5000 and

up?) and get quite meager results.

But I know, the world ain't perfect.

I hope I make it clear I'm not complaining so much for myself but

others. NFB is a valuable tool (it's been for me too) that deserves

more popularity but neither should it be hyped.

Btw, it is possible to see the functioning of different areas of the

brain in an fMRI. There are certain markers for levels of emotional

integration for example. The line of normality may not lie at the top

of that...

> (not born in 1982)

Oh... *turns face to the ground and turns the other foot nervously*

>

> Hey, Tommi,

>

> I'm interested in how this is going for you. My son has done a lot

> of sessions, too. Maybe not 500. 200+ in 2005 & 2006. I never

> thought we could train him to " be like other people, " but I'm pretty

> sure there's more to be done with attention and learning eventually.

>

> Don't you wonder where these people are at the end of training, be

> it 80 or 200 sessions, if 200 is " enough? " If you begin with clear

> goals that you can measure I suppose when they're met, you're done.

> Do you have goals you've been unable to meet so far in training?

> One of my goals was to feel normal again. Ha ha! You can't measure

> that. You can measure the number of times something occurs, though

> or periods when something doesn't occur.

>

> Many people do have ways of getting results quicker than figuring it

> out on your own. That's why we have to pay them!

>

> Hoping you're getting closer,

>

> Rah

> (not born in 1982)