Re: FREE MOLD BOOK/Schaller, MD

[Guest guest]

Dr.Schaller,

I would just like to thank you for posting these E-books of yours

for those who can not afford, but yet are suffering dearly and may

not understand fully why.

Thank you for being so kind.

KC

--- In , " jschaller " <jschaller@...>

wrote:

>

> Since life is short, I decided to give away my illustrated picture

book about mold illness and mold in buildings.

>

> It is designed for those who have trouble reading or want to learn

how not to get hurt by mold in an easy and fast way.

>

> It uses over a hundred cartoons and color photographs.

>

> I wrote with Dr. Rosen because we were seeing that many of my

pateints and his remediation clients could not read and were making

many remediation errors, and it took too long to teach them without

pictures. This book is VERY STRONG ON COMMON remediation errors and

cautions.

>

>

> http://www.gombach.com/schaller/SimpleMoldSample.pdf This is

the first 80 pages in the newer design

>

> http://www.gombach.com/schaller/SimpleMoldEBook.pdf

>

>

> The first 80 pages or link one is the way the book will be. Due to

it costing about 15.00 for all the color pages in a hard copy, we

will be moving to a 30 color page copy option next month to save

folks money who want it in a hard copy. (Amazon.com)

>

> We all know folks who cannot download an e-book and are making

remediation errors, and need something simple. WHILE THIS IS

COPYRIGHTED, EACH PERSON ON SICKBUILDINGS HAS PERMISSION TO FORWARD

TO 5 PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO SICK OR TOO POOR TO BUY. (If you are a

defense attorney, you will have to buy it).

>

> Why give away? I was watching the MSNBC special on the loss of

almost three states with Katrina and I am just so aware of hundreds

of thousands of folks with limited cognition due to mold exposure.

>

> I would like it to be an easy source of help. Also, I see the

death of various neighbors and friends--life is so short. I will eat

today, have food and my roof does not leak. That is enough.

>

> Please understand this book is very different than Mold Warriors,

and is not meant to compete or replace this immensely sacrificial

book of Dr. Shoemaker. They are completely apples and oranges.

Indeed, we refer to MW 10 times in Mold Illness Made Simple: Fixing

Sick Bodies and Buildings.

>

> Much Peace,

>

> Schaller, MD

> www.personalconsult.com

> www.usmoldphysician.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you soooo much Dr. Shaller. I had heard alot about it, and wanted to

get. However, the funds here are VERY tight. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

[] FREE MOLD BOOK/Schaller, MD

> Since life is short, I decided to give away my illustrated picture book

> about mold illness and mold in buildings.

>

> It is designed for those who have trouble reading or want to learn how not

> to get hurt by mold in an easy and fast way.

>

> It uses over a hundred cartoons and color photographs.

>

> I wrote with Dr. Rosen because we were seeing that many of my pateints and

> his remediation clients could not read and were making many remediation

> errors, and it took too long to teach them without pictures. This book is

> VERY STRONG ON COMMON remediation errors and cautions.

>

>

> http://www.gombach.com/schaller/SimpleMoldSample.pdf This is the first

> 80 pages in the newer design

>

> http://www.gombach.com/schaller/SimpleMoldEBook.pdf

>

>

> The first 80 pages or link one is the way the book will be. Due to it

> costing about 15.00 for all the color pages in a hard copy, we will be

> moving to a 30 color page copy option next month to save folks money who

> want it in a hard copy. (Amazon.com)

>

> We all know folks who cannot download an e-book and are making remediation

> errors, and need something simple. WHILE THIS IS COPYRIGHTED, EACH PERSON

> ON SICKBUILDINGS HAS PERMISSION TO FORWARD TO 5 PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO SICK OR

> TOO POOR TO BUY. (If you are a defense attorney, you will have to buy

> it).

>

> Why give away? I was watching the MSNBC special on the loss of almost

> three states with Katrina and I am just so aware of hundreds of thousands

> of folks with limited cognition due to mold exposure.

>

> I would like it to be an easy source of help. Also, I see the death of

> various neighbors and friends--life is so short. I will eat today, have

> food and my roof does not leak. That is enough.

>

> Please understand this book is very different than Mold Warriors, and is

> not meant to compete or replace this immensely sacrificial book of Dr.

> Shoemaker. They are completely apples and oranges. Indeed, we refer to MW

> 10 times in Mold Illness Made Simple: Fixing Sick Bodies and Buildings.

>

> Much Peace,

>

> Schaller, MD

> www.personalconsult.com

> www.usmoldphysician.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Schaller you are extraordinary generous. Thank you so much for giving

us your free e-books.

Not long ago I posted to this group that everyone should have a copy of your

" Mold Illness Made Simple " because I believe it's a wonderful introduction

written by a professional about toxic mold. Everyone needs to know the

basic facts about mold illness, how to spot mold and what to do about the

mold. Having this e-book I believe can save lives and so much illness and

frustration.

Of course as you stated your e-book does not replace Mold Warriors and those

who need more in-depth knowledge on the subject should certainly purchase

Mold Warriors.

Again thank you. I know many on this group will take advantage of your kind

offer and learn. I learned thanks to your e-book how to decontaminate

old-moldy books I so want in my library. Because of your teaching, I can

now obtain some.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dr Schaller. A friend of mine has a sister in MO disaster

area and is not feeling well and I am going to send her a copy of

this. barb b from Cinci

--- In , " jschaller " <jschaller@...>

wrote:

>

> Since life is short, I decided to give away my illustrated picture

book about mold illness and mold in buildings.

[Guest guest]

Yes, please pass along. The perfect person. Can she handle a printer? Or

need it printed off and mailed to her?

Dr. J

[] Re: FREE MOLD BOOK/Schaller, MD

> Thank you Dr Schaller. A friend of mine has a sister in MO disaster

> area and is not feeling well and I am going to send her a copy of

> this. barb b from Cinci

>

>

>>

>> Since life is short, I decided to give away my illustrated picture

> book about mold illness and mold in buildings.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr Schaller,

Thank you very much for giving away this book. I intended to buy it

anyway.

If I may suggest only two things in case you decide to update the book

at some point in the future:

1) Could you also include more emphasis on the problem of

cross-contamination through clothing, furniture, other people's

belongings etc. You do mention the problem of cross-contamination when

you speak about remediation and that toxins can be spread through the

air or someone's shoes. However the problem of cross-contamination is,

as you surely know, much more complex. Someone who does not have any

experience with mold might mistakenly conclude that as soon as one

leaves the area where the mold grows one will get better. That is

maybe true for those who are not hypersensitive, but

some of us are not so lucky. Decontamination of one's body and

especially clothes and personal objects can be a nightmarish job,

lasting months instead of a few minutes.

2) Could there also be a chapter about the problem with mold which is

not visible but is still present in huge amounts on object(s). Such

objects can virtually destroy the life of individuals who are

hypersensitive to molds and their toxins. The problem is even more

compounded by the fact that there is no visible mold, and even less

people will pay attention to cases like this. You do mention a way to

decontaminate books with no apparent mold growth, but I feel this

particular problem with objects without visible mold needs to be

tackled more, by giving more examples.

Thanks again, and please do not take these suggestions as a criticism

but simply as suggestions.

[Guest guest]

Yes, THANKS for the Free Book. I sent a copy to our so called Safety

person for our department. Maybe he will get a little education on

MOLD. They are remediating abestos in his building right now and they

should get the mold while they are at it then send them to my

building. They have let those people work in abestos ever since I

have worked in my building for 24+ years and they say it isn't at

harmful levels. Not Harmful for WHO? Lots of dead young people

that worked there too. Some still living with cancers ETC. Rhonda

-- In , " Branislav " <arealis@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Dr Schaller,

>

> Thank you very much for giving away this book. I intended to buy it

> anyway.

>

>

> If I may suggest only two things in case you decide to update the

book

> at some point in the future:

>

>

> 1) Could you also include more emphasis on the problem of

> cross-contamination through clothing, furniture, other people's

> belongings etc. You do mention the problem of cross-contamination

when

> you speak about remediation and that toxins can be spread through

the

> air or someone's shoes. However the problem of cross-contamination

is,

> as you surely know, much more complex. Someone who does not have any

> experience with mold might mistakenly conclude that as soon as one

> leaves the area where the mold grows one will get better. That is

> maybe true for those who are not hypersensitive, but

> some of us are not so lucky. Decontamination of one's body and

> especially clothes and personal objects can be a nightmarish job,

> lasting months instead of a few minutes.

>

>

> 2) Could there also be a chapter about the problem with mold which

is

> not visible but is still present in huge amounts on object(s). Such

> objects can virtually destroy the life of individuals who are

> hypersensitive to molds and their toxins. The problem is even more

> compounded by the fact that there is no visible mold, and even less

> people will pay attention to cases like this. You do mention a way

to

> decontaminate books with no apparent mold growth, but I feel this

> particular problem with objects without visible mold needs to be

> tackled more, by giving more examples.

>

>

>

> Thanks again, and please do not take these suggestions as a

criticism

> but simply as suggestions.

>

[Guest guest]

Branislav, you mean like " Mold Lifestyling " and " Extreme Avoidance " ?

-

(To Lin - Yes. As described in the book., six months of extreme

mold avoidance and the chemical sensitivities were no longer a huge

problem for me. I thought that a few MCSers might want to know

about this - but it only made them angry to hear about it.)

" Branislav " wrote:

>

> Dear Dr Schaller,

>

> Thank you very much for giving away this book. I intended to buy it

> anyway.

>

>

> If I may suggest only two things in case you decide to update the

book

> at some point in the future:

>

>

> 1) Could you also include more emphasis on the problem of

> cross-contamination through clothing, furniture, other people's

> belongings etc. You do mention the problem of cross-contamination

when

> you speak about remediation and that toxins can be spread through

the

> air or someone's shoes. However the problem of cross-contamination

is,

> as you surely know, much more complex. Someone who does not have

any

> experience with mold might mistakenly conclude that as soon as one

> leaves the area where the mold grows one will get better. That is

> maybe true for those who are not hypersensitive, but

> some of us are not so lucky. Decontamination of one's body and

> especially clothes and personal objects can be a nightmarish job,

> lasting months instead of a few minutes.

>

>

> 2) Could there also be a chapter about the problem with mold which

is

> not visible but is still present in huge amounts on object(s). Such

> objects can virtually destroy the life of individuals who are

> hypersensitive to molds and their toxins. The problem is even more

> compounded by the fact that there is no visible mold, and even less

> people will pay attention to cases like this. You do mention a way

to

> decontaminate books with no apparent mold growth, but I feel this

> particular problem with objects without visible mold needs to be

> tackled more, by giving more examples.

>

>

>

> Thanks again, and please do not take these suggestions as a

criticism

> but simply as suggestions.

>

[Guest guest]

, why would any one get mad ?, maybe you should explain your

version of extreme advoidence, I thought this is what I have been

doing for the last year, but my MCS is not better. yes, I can fell

better as long as im not exposed and lock myself in my apartment. but

i have to go get groceries and whatever, and as you had a bad

reaction to something just a few days ago, i dont think you can say

your MCS is all

better.

> >

> > Dear Dr Schaller,

> >

> > Thank you very much for giving away this book. I intended to buy

it

> > anyway.

> >

> >

> > If I may suggest only two things in case you decide to update the

> book

> > at some point in the future:

> >

> >

> > 1) Could you also include more emphasis on the problem of

> > cross-contamination through clothing, furniture, other people's

> > belongings etc. You do mention the problem of cross-contamination

> when

> > you speak about remediation and that toxins can be spread through

> the

> > air or someone's shoes. However the problem of cross-

contamination

> is,

> > as you surely know, much more complex. Someone who does not have

> any

> > experience with mold might mistakenly conclude that as soon as one

> > leaves the area where the mold grows one will get better. That is

> > maybe true for those who are not hypersensitive, but

> > some of us are not so lucky. Decontamination of one's body and

> > especially clothes and personal objects can be a nightmarish job,

> > lasting months instead of a few minutes.

> >

> >

> > 2) Could there also be a chapter about the problem with mold

which

> is

> > not visible but is still present in huge amounts on object(s).

Such

> > objects can virtually destroy the life of individuals who are

> > hypersensitive to molds and their toxins. The problem is even more

> > compounded by the fact that there is no visible mold, and even

less

> > people will pay attention to cases like this. You do mention a

way

> to

> > decontaminate books with no apparent mold growth, but I feel this

> > particular problem with objects without visible mold needs to be

> > tackled more, by giving more examples.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks again, and please do not take these suggestions as a

> criticism

> > but simply as suggestions.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Branislav, you mean like " Mold Lifestyling " and " Extreme Avoidance " ?

> -

I checked at the Amazon.com and there are no books with such titles.

If you wanted to point out that you already figured out the answers to

these questions (I'd say you have, and I have too to some degree, but

that's beside the point here), I must say I don't understand why you

are citing them here as a reply to my suggestion to Dr Shaller?

Dr Shaller certainly knows about these problems as well. My suggestion

was made simply due to a well known fact that people ignorant about

mold will NOT believe someone who is writing on a group, be that

me or you, but there is a lot more chance they WILL believe if a

certified doctor writes about the same topic, describing his work on

the subject, patients, and citing all the resources and references.

[Guest guest]

" Branislav " wrote:

> If you wanted to point out that you already figured out the answers

to these questions (I'd say you have, and I have too to some degree,

but that's beside the point here), I must say I don't understand why

you are citing them here as a reply to my suggestion to Dr Shaller?

>

> Dr Shaller certainly knows about these problems as well. My

suggestion was made simply due to a well known fact that people

ignorant about mold will NOT believe someone who is writing on a

group, be that me or you, but there is a lot more chance they WILL

believe if a certified doctor writes about the same topic, describing

his work on the subject, patients, and citing all the resources and

references.<

>

Absolutely!

I pointed it out because Mold Lifestyling and Extreme Avoidance are

the measures that this group has consistently and vehemently rejected

by saying " You keep insisting that your way is the only way " and

a " One size fits all " strategy, because of my unpleasant repetitions

that these concepts are relevant and applicable under a wide range of

circumstances.

I'll repeat the premise for refining this strategy of a more

concerted effort at mold avoidance, but I want to make it TOTALLY

clear that I am not trying to impose this concept on anyone who

doesn't feel it applies to their situation - " Personal Impact Rating " ,

or even upon those who wish to avoid it for ANY reason at all, such as

according a lack of credibility and humility to the source.

This is just an concept that I found to be quite helpful.

The heightened sensitivity experienced by " getting clear " , also

referred to as " running to the hills " (I LIKE those hills) allows a

better perception of sources of exposure when the irritant is re-

introduced.

Making a concerted and conscious effort to " break the response " and

then going directly to the area or object to be " perceptified " means

the difference between just knowing that you feel generally crappy,

and knowing that you feel especially crappy as a direct result of

controlled proximity to the item being tested.

This concept works regardless of HLA susceptibility - and applies

only to ones PIR at the time of " re-exposure assessment " .

This is useful because PIR's change over time - according to duration

of exposure.

Moving directly from lowest possible response to testable sites makes

perception of " lesser " contamination zones more precise.

Since biotoxin illness is not an allergy resolved by just avoidance,

but is more of a a long term strategy of controlling exposures, the

more information that allows you to " push " toward decreased exposure,

the sooner you arrive at the desired goal.

And you are certainly correct in that even concepts that are self

evident tend to be rejected from uncredentialed sources, regardless of

the logic or inherent value contained in the basic premise.

As I told Rick back in 1998 when he warned me how badly he had

been slamdunked and rejected by sufferers for trying to present this

information in the early 1990's, " They won't do that to me. They can't

just disregard my information. I'm a original Incline Village survivor

and prototype for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome who walked out of the

ampligen program and returned to mountain climbing as a result of a

strategy of mold avoidance. Only a brain dead moron could overlook a

story like that " .

Rick laughed, and told me that he didn't think anyone would listen to

me.

Well, Rick was right. Mold victims sure put him through it until he

just gave up trying to help them!

And only now are they starting to learn that it was the sufferers

themselves who took the lead in suppressing the information that they

so desperately needed.

I have shown people pictures and had them say " But where's you PROOF? "

meaning that my physical demonstration of recovery meant nothing - but

if a doctor writes it down somewhere - that is much more acceptable as

being " real evidence " .

I've even taken people into moldy places and had them react, but then

come back later and say " I really thought you were on to something -

because I could feel it myself. But my doctor says that mold

reactivity is impossible, so I guess you must be wrong. "

Remember my story about insisting that mold was really making me sick

and my sister rhetorically said " So, you are saying that YOU are

right, and ALL the doctors are wrong " and when I replied " Yes. That is

exactly what I am saying " , she responded " Well! You're an Arrogant

Bastard! "

What? She didn't care whether I was right or wrong. Just the fact

that I possessed such " audacity " that I dared to contradict the

authority of doctors was enough to make me " arrogant " .

Heck, if it turns out that I'm correct - wouldn't the verification of

my assertion mean that SHE was was the arrogant one for dismissing an

accurate concept merely because it came from a " nobody " ?

But assertions of arrogance STILL doesn't detract from the veracity of

a concept. And it sure would be silly for someone who needs

information to reject it because of who it came from, instead of

whether the idea makes any sense or not.

" The Truth is the Truth - Be it spake by the Devil himself "

- the Devil himself.

[Guest guest]

Heh . Youre lucky no huge MCS problems cause you avoid mold. Also lucky

you dont have have the real MCS like so many do. guess ya cant help explain it.

Its ok.

Lin

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

Branislav, you mean like " Mold Lifestyling " and " Extreme Avoidance " ?

-

(To Lin - Yes. As described in the book., six months of extreme

mold avoidance and the chemical sensitivities were no longer a huge

problem for me. I thought that a few MCSers might want to know

about this - but it only made them angry to hear about it.)

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Lin wrote:

>

> Heh . Youre lucky no huge MCS problems cause you avoid mold.

Also lucky you dont have have the real MCS like so many do. guess ya

cant help explain it.

Its ok.

> Lin

Is a demonstrable disabling reaction to various chemicals not " real

MCS " ?

Dr was convinced that it was, at least enough for him to

diagnose me as a " Universal Reactor " .

I can't explain it very well - it's way over my head.

It took Dr Shoemaker to create a scientific explanation for what I

could only observe. So I just tell the story and let him do the

explaining.

-

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Schaller,

You may want to consider publishing your book under an 'Open Source'

icense -perhaps like the Creative Commons one..

Its a great way to encourage sharing of useful information, similar

to the GPL, (derived from the 'open source' software licenses that are

used to publish so much great free software like Apache, The Gimp,

PostgreSQL, Linux, etc.)

If you don't know what I'm talking about please check out

http://www.creativecommons.org

(There's also a lot of other great stuff listed there that is free to use..)

AND YES, ***PUBLISHING IT VIA AN OPEN SOURCE LICENSE WILL HELP OUR

VISIBILITY AND CREDIBILITY***