Re: marijuana and something about nuts(peanuts)

[Guest guest]

I have to disagree on this one. haveing lived 10 years(in the 70's-

80's )with a conasuer of this, I can tell you that moldy majawana does

not sell and is not considered a marketable substance, and conasuers of

this are very paticular of dring methods. I believe that cigars are a

different subject and the smell of them wipes me out. I dought if the

tabaco companys give a crap as to how moldy theri tabaco is and even

the undried tabaco leaves are used as rappers.

on the subject of nuts,(privite joke,lol) anyway, seriously, I noticed

that peanuts still in the shell caused my nose to drip, drip, and

realized that the shells(the ones I used to love to lick for the salt)

are moldy. I dont seem to have a allergy to nuts, except for this

reaction to the

shell.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> I would not be surprised if mold exposure/toxicity was one of the

> major factors driving drug use/abuse in this country. (which one would

> then have to look at as self-medication)

>

> After all, we know that mycotoxins can cause depression, ADD/ADHD-like

> symptoms caused by low neurotransmitters, etc.

>

> Think about it...

>

[Guest guest]

>>On Behalf Of who

on the subject of nuts,(privite joke,lol) anyway, seriously, I noticed

that peanuts still in the shell caused my nose to drip, drip, and

realized that the shells(the ones I used to love to lick for the salt)

are moldy. I dont seem to have a allergy to nuts, except for this

reaction to the shell.>>

Peanuts are known for their aflatoxins and I avoid them.

Rosie

Environ Sci Technol. 2004 Aug 1;38(15):4049-55. Related Articles,

Links

Mycotoxin risk assessment for the purpose of setting international

regulatory standards.Wu F.

Department of Environmental and Occupational Health, Graduate School of

Public Health, University of Pittsburgh, A718 Crabtree Hall, 130 DeSoto

Street, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15261, USA. fwu@...

The 2003 Council for Agricultural Science and Technology Mycotoxin report

states that one 21st century goal is the development of uniform regulations

worldwide for foodborne mycotoxin contamination. This study informs that

endeavor by a risk assessment and economic analysis of two important

mycotoxins: fumonisins and aflatoxins. The goals are to identify the nations

that would be most heavily impacted by tighter mycotoxin regulations,

examine costs and benefits as a function of regulatory stringency, and

address risk-risk tradeoffs between health benefits and economic losses from

compliance with those regulations. Among industrial nations, the United

States would experience the heaviest economic losses from more precautionary

mycotoxin standards. Environmental conditions in the developing world,

however, are more conducive to mycotoxin accumulation in crops. Contrary to

concerns expressed among policymakers, the less developed countries that

would likely experience the greatest loss from tighter mycotoxin standards

are not sub-Saharan African nations, but China and Argentina. If a fumonisin

standard of 0.5 mg/kg were adopted worldwide, total export losses from

fumonisins in corn may exceed 300 million dollars annually: 3-fold higher

than if the less stringent U.S. standard of 2 mg/kg were adopted. Likewise,

export losses from aflatoxins in peanuts may exceed 450 million dollars

under the current EU regulatory standard of 4 microg/kg: almost 5-fold

higher than if the U.S. standard of 20 microg/kg were adopted. Stricter

standards are unlikely to improve health significantly. In developing

nations such as China where hepatitis B and C are prevalent, tighter

aflatoxin standards may increase health risks until improved control methods

for aflatoxins are found, as high-quality crops may be exported instead of

being consumed domestically.

PMID: 15352440 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[Guest guest]

this is strange isnt it. you would think that I would have the same

reaction to nuts, as I do with corn, but I dont. I cant say I have no

reaction at all, but its mild compared to corn. a person has to eat

something. mabye the differnce is because nuts are hard and mold is

mainly in the shell, where mold in corn is in the kernels. just a

guess.

>

> >>On Behalf Of who

> on the subject of nuts,(privite joke,lol) anyway, seriously, I

noticed

> that peanuts still in the shell caused my nose to drip, drip, and

> realized that the shells(the ones I used to love to lick for the

salt)

> are moldy. I dont seem to have a allergy to nuts, except for this

> reaction to the shell.>>

>

> Peanuts are known for their aflatoxins and I avoid them.

> Rosie

>

> Environ Sci Technol. 2004 Aug 1;38(15):4049-55. Related

Articles,

> Links

> Mycotoxin risk assessment for the purpose of setting international

> regulatory standards.Wu F.

> Department of Environmental and Occupational Health, Graduate

School of

> Public Health, University of Pittsburgh, A718 Crabtree Hall, 130

DeSoto

> Street, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15261, USA. fwu@...

>

> The 2003 Council for Agricultural Science and Technology Mycotoxin

report

> states that one 21st century goal is the development of uniform

regulations

> worldwide for foodborne mycotoxin contamination. This study informs

that

> endeavor by a risk assessment and economic analysis of two important

> mycotoxins: fumonisins and aflatoxins. The goals are to identify

the nations

> that would be most heavily impacted by tighter mycotoxin

regulations,

> examine costs and benefits as a function of regulatory stringency,

and

> address risk-risk tradeoffs between health benefits and economic

losses from

> compliance with those regulations. Among industrial nations, the

United

> States would experience the heaviest economic losses from more

precautionary

> mycotoxin standards. Environmental conditions in the developing

world,

> however, are more conducive to mycotoxin accumulation in crops.

Contrary to

> concerns expressed among policymakers, the less developed countries

that

> would likely experience the greatest loss from tighter mycotoxin

standards

> are not sub-Saharan African nations, but China and Argentina. If a

fumonisin

> standard of 0.5 mg/kg were adopted worldwide, total export losses

from

> fumonisins in corn may exceed 300 million dollars annually: 3-fold

higher

> than if the less stringent U.S. standard of 2 mg/kg were adopted.

Likewise,

> export losses from aflatoxins in peanuts may exceed 450 million

dollars

> under the current EU regulatory standard of 4 microg/kg: almost 5-

fold

> higher than if the U.S. standard of 20 microg/kg were adopted.

Stricter

> standards are unlikely to improve health significantly. In

developing

> nations such as China where hepatitis B and C are prevalent, tighter

> aflatoxin standards may increase health risks until improved

control methods

> for aflatoxins are found, as high-quality crops may be exported

instead of

> being consumed domestically.

>

> PMID: 15352440 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't mean 'moldy marijuana' - I was actually talking about the

drug usage being a reaction to the brain issues caused by chronic mold

exposure, perhaps starting as a child or even as a fetus (don't know

if mold toxins cross the placental barrier..but I would nt be

surprised)

The point I was trying to make is that tolerance of mold toxins and

resistance to doing something about them can have much more far

reaching effects in society than we realize and that poor people bear

the brunt of those effects.