Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hi all, If someone has front-to-back beta reversal aaaannnnnndddd lots of slow wave activity in the back and centrally ( and in the front), when I do a 2C windowed squash at c3 and p3, would I still set the window at 12-18? Or, because of the beta reversal, would I set the window at 12-15? Thanks, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Jane, I'd probably start training in the front first. Remember that we go temporals, frontals, THEN posterior. Chances are that if you get the frontals going, the back of the head can relax a bit. You might try alpha or alpha PF training in the back unless there's already a lot of alpha there with appropriate frequency. Pete > > From: " Jane Gurin " <doglover80590@...> > Date: 2006/05/08 Mon PM 01:01:30 EDT > > Subject: Question about 2-channel c3 & p3 windowed squash > > If someone has front-to-back beta reversal aaaannnnnndddd lots of slow wave activity in the back and centrally ( and in the front), when I do a 2C windowed squash at c3 and p3, would I still set the window at 12-18? Or, because of the beta reversal, would I set the window at 12-15? Thanks, Jane Van Deusen http://www.brain-trainer.com 16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157 305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Pete, Thanks for your response. This is about my son, who has lots and lots of theta all over the place. I tried training a windowed squash at f3 and 2C f3 & fz and 2C f3 & c3. He had what I consider to be a bad reaction; he got quick to anger and very reactive, so I backed off. I'm looking for a way to reduce the slow activity, in general, and, in particular, to help him with his reading, which is incredibly, unbelievably slow. So, given that I've tried the frontals, should I go to the old c3 & c4 next, or try p3 & c3? Jane, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Jane, Where the windows in your bad responses? I'd certainly be looking at P3 or P3 and T5 sites for reading problems, both referenced to the left ear or mastoid. Pete > > From: " Jane Gurin " <doglover80590@...> > Date: 2006/05/09 Tue PM 09:24:07 EDT > > Subject: Re: Question about 2-channel c3 & p3 windowed squash > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hi Pete, You asked about the windowes squashes I've tried with . I've tried the following: -f3 2-11 down -2C f3 & c3 ws (12-18 open) -2C f3 & fpz ws (12-18 open) His assessment shows: --beta at f3 is 7.5%; similar at c3; at fz, it's 6.9%. --theta is 26%-29% at those sites. --alpha reversal in the front, front-to-back beta reversal. --alpha 28-29% across the back and blocks great all over. --low SMR eo at C4. I'm primarily concerned with two things: helping him to quell anxiety and to read faster. While our main concern was getting him stable, these other issues were background noise. Now, that he's doing so well, I'd like to help him with these remaining issues. And he's asked specifically for help with reading faster. He's is an extraordinarily, weirdly slow reader. All of his teachers have mentioned it throughout his schooling. I can see it myself . . . he slogs through books. And he sees it, too. (His comprehension and recall is great; he's just very, very slow.) Any ideas? When I did the windowed squashes, he became irritible and quick to anger. Right now, we're training C4, SMR up, theta and hibeta down, with a DVD. He likes it, and I'm going to stick with it for a while. I'm hoping it helps him feel calmer in the face of stress. Hershel suggested doing HEG at f7 and fp1 for slow reading. Because of the bipolar diagnosis (and the need to train on both sides of the head), I've modified Hershel's suggestion and have been alternating HEG training at f7 & f8 with fp1, fp2, fpz. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Jane, Could you explain why you would need to train both sides of the head with a bipolar disorder diagnoses? thanks, Kirk Re: Question about 2-channel c3 & p3 windowed squash Hi Pete,You asked about the windowes squashes I've tried with .I've tried the following:-f3 2-11 down-2C f3 & c3 ws (12-18 open)-2C f3 & fpz ws (12-18 open)His assessment shows:--beta at f3 is 7.5%; similar at c3; at fz, it's 6.9%.--theta is 26%-29% at those sites. --alpha reversal in the front, front-to-back beta reversal.--alpha 28-29% across the back and blocks great all over.--low SMR eo at C4.I'm primarily concerned with two things: helping him to quell anxietyand to read faster.While our main concern was getting him stable, these other issues werebackground noise. Now, that he's doing so well, I'd like to help himwith these remaining issues. And he's asked specifically for help withreading faster. He's is an extraordinarily, weirdly slow reader. Allof his teachers have mentioned it throughout his schooling. I can seeit myself . . . he slogs through books. And he sees it, too. (Hiscomprehension and recall is great; he's just very, very slow.)Any ideas? When I did the windowed squashes, he became irritible andquick to anger.Right now, we're training C4, SMR up, theta and hibeta down, with aDVD. He likes it, and I'm going to stick with it for a while. I'mhoping it helps him feel calmer in the face of stress.Hershel suggested doing HEG at f7 and fp1 for slow reading. Because ofthe bipolar diagnosis (and the need to train on both sides of thehead), I've modified Hershel's suggestion and have been alternatingHEG training at f7 & f8 with fp1, fp2, fpz.Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Jane, I have also had a few reading problems. Hershel's recommendations did help me. Perhaps it may take someone "with" these problems to notice the subtlety of also adding HEG at T3,T4,T5 & T6, for reading. And HEG all the way around the head can't hurt. I've adjusted to alternating quadrants Left/Right/Front/Back/Top, which I train every third day (from lister suggestions). If you do too much at one part of your head it feels like your brain is bubbling. I noticed this once or twice at the beginning of training. The Alpha Symm protocol seems to get the right amount of stuff going so both reading and other "logical / sequential / focus" things go easier. F3/4, F3/P3 see notes. I've always wondered how people could sit down and enjoy reading the paper everyday, now I'm starting to. Just the small local paper with happy news, not the WSJ or NYT, yet. I case you missed/ignored my previous mentions of reading training, I've been helped by a few things in addition to BF. I used the Eyeport to train/confirm close distance bi-ocular (two eye together) acquisition (reading distance). And in combination with a laser light level for leveling exercises. The unit is getting cheaper all the time. I think people don't realized how much good it can do. Available at http://www.sharperimagebest.com/ey400.html EyeQ is great for eye vision expansion, the clean windshield effect. http://www.infmind.com/ But the "catch" is the without both eyes seeing the same "level" it doesn't work well. You can easily test "level" by looking at any wide level bright object and cross your eyes. If you need to struggle to get them to overlap, Voila! A laser light line is easier, just cross your eyes a bit and see if you maintain one line. If you are not level then you'll need to read out of ONE eye at a time which is very difficult each time you re-focus, along with other difficulties. Good luck. HTH. ~ A Do Something Useful ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Gurin >>--alpha reversal in the front, front-to-back beta reversal.<< >>Hershel suggested doing HEG at f7 and fp1 for slow reading. Because ofthe bipolar diagnosis (and the need to train on both sides of thehead), I've modified Hershel's suggestion and have been alternatingHEG training at f7 & f8 with fp1, fp2, fpz.Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Jane, It seems to me that problems with reading decoding speed would be much more likely helped by training at P3 and T4 rather than in the front. That's where the work is done. You might try Dan Maust's original squash: F7/CP5 (Broca's and Wernicke's areas) on the left (yes, that's a bipolar montage) and F8/CP6 on the right, squashing 2-38 Hz. Pete > > From: " Jane Gurin " <doglover80590@...> > Date: 2006/05/12 Fri PM 01:30:23 EDT > > Subject: Re: Question about 2-channel c3 & p3 windowed squash > > You asked about the windowes squashes I've tried with . I've tried the following: -f3 2-11 down -2C f3 & c3 ws (12-18 open) -2C f3 & fpz ws (12-18 open) His assessment shows: --beta at f3 is 7.5%; similar at c3; at fz, it's 6.9%. --theta is 26%-29% at those sites. --alpha reversal in the front, front-to-back beta reversal. --alpha 28-29% across the back and blocks great all over. --low SMR eo at C4. I'm primarily concerned with two things: helping him to quell anxiety and to read faster. While our main concern was getting him stable, these other issues were background noise. Now, that he's doing so well, I'd like to help him with these remaining issues. And he's asked specifically for help with reading faster. He's is an extraordinarily, weirdly slow reader. All of his teachers have mentioned it throughout his schooling. I can see it myself . . . he slogs through books. And he sees it, too. (His comprehension and recall is great; he's just very, very slow.) Any ideas? When I did the windowed squashes, he became irritible and quick to anger. Right now, we're training C4, SMR up, theta and hibeta down, with a DVD. He likes it, and I'm going to stick with it for a while. I'm hoping it helps him feel calmer in the face of stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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