Re: Does Kombucha really repopulate gut bacteria as well as kefir, kimchi, etc?

[Guest guest]

No, it can't because it can't survive the temperature of your gut.

Does Kombucha really repopulate gut bacteria as well as kefir,

kimchi, etc?

> Hi,

>

> I was wondering if the bacteria in kombucha repopulates your gut as

> well as kefir, kimchi, fermented cabbage juice and other lacto-

> fermented foods?

>

> I mean, it is not the same bacteria in kombucha as these foods,

> right? (I think)

>

> My understanding is that there are 2 kinds of bacteria... bacteria

> that lodges into your gut and stays there and reproduces (like

> acidophilus and bifidus (sp?) and transient bacteria. Transient

> bacteria may also be helpful but it doesn't stick around, right? So

> you would always need a fresh new source of the transient stuff.

>

> So:

>

> 1) Is kombucha's bacteria transient or do they make a home for

> themselves in your gut?

>

> 2) Do the powerful pill probiotics like Primal Defense contain much

> more useful bacteria than in home-made kombucha, home-made kefir,

> kimchi bought from korean stores, etc?

>

> Also, please correct me on any aspects of this message which may be

> incorrect.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Are you sure of these facts? I know that Kombuch does not survive 103F as

" kombucha " but that is more than 98F - the temperature of your gut - and the

question was about the _bacteria_ only.

There are clains from commercial kombucha suppliers that their KT is probiotic.

This woould be false if the bacteria did not survive. It doesn't matter what

happens to the yeasts.

I know no more than the next guy but there's a contradiction somewhere.

Does Kombucha really repopulate gut bacteria as well as kefir,

kimchi, etc?

> Hi,

>

> I was wondering if the bacteria in kombucha repopulates your gut as

> well as kefir, kimchi, fermented cabbage juice and other lacto-

> fermented foods?

>

> I mean, it is not the same bacteria in kombucha as these foods,

> right? (I think)

>

> My understanding is that there are 2 kinds of bacteria... bacteria

> that lodges into your gut and stays there and reproduces (like

> acidophilus and bifidus (sp?) and transient bacteria. Transient

> bacteria may also be helpful but it doesn't stick around, right? So

> you would always need a fresh new source of the transient stuff.

>

> So:

>

> 1) Is kombucha's bacteria transient or do they make a home for

> themselves in your gut?

>

> 2) Do the powerful pill probiotics like Primal Defense contain much

> more useful bacteria than in home-made kombucha, home-made kefir,

> kimchi bought from korean stores, etc?

>

> Also, please correct me on any aspects of this message which may be

> incorrect.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> 2) Do the powerful pill probiotics like Primal Defense contain much

> more useful bacteria than in home-made kombucha, home-made kefir,

> kimchi bought from korean stores, etc?

I used to be a regular consumer of Garden Of Life's Primal Defense

probiotic combination. Indeed it has 12-14 different strains.

Quite a powerhouse. However, as a member of the kefir list, I

was warned against the strain Bacillus licheniformis. Here are

some links with more information:

http://www.fungalresearchgroup.com/abstracts/abstracts2.html

http://www.frequencyresearch.org/2005/04/avoid-probiotics-with-

bacillus.html

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/probiotic_disinformation.html

The last two links are maybe not from the most reputable advisors,

but the second does make ref. to an article in the Lancet Oncology

journal. I contacted Garden Of Life, and they said only a

" component " of this strain was used, not the whole organism.

I do not know if this should assuage our fears. Anyone else have

any thoughts/info? I still have half a big bottle left. So far,

it has gone untouched since reading the above.

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