Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Sounds like a mold hit to me & probably a combination of things. But if you see stained ceiling tiles you need to leave even if you've taken CSM. Just because you take the medication it won't keep you from getting an exposure. It only helps remove the toxins, your body still reacts to the toxic contaminates. What is an asthma attack like? Last night I went out with my family to an Irish Pub. I haven't been out to a bar for awhile because I have been so sick (mycotoxicosis). Anyway, the pub was full of smoke and I assume that the pub was moldy because you could see many water leaks on the ceiling. After about 10 minutes I got a horrible headeache and after 1/2 hour I started having problems breathing. It seemed like I couldn't get enough air into my lungs no matter what I did. I thought maybe I was just going crazy and tried to concentrate and take deep breaths. It didn't help. I thought I was going to pass out. Eventually I just waited outside in the cold until my family was ready to leave. After about 45 minutes I was able to breathe better. This has never happened to me before. I even took my CSM before I left. So is this just a new way of my responding to mold? Could it be asthma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 yes thAT COULD DEFINATLY BE ASTHMA. i HAVE It NOW. nEVER DID BEFORE. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 DIET RELATED TIPS TO HELP NUTRITIONALLY WITH ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA and COPD • The diet should consist of 50 percent raw organically grown foods (start by steaming lightly or juicing, especially if you are not used to eating raw foods). Avoid foods that cause excess mucus to be formed in the gastrointestinal tracts, lungs, sinuses, and nasal cavity. Foods that lead to the formation of mucus are meats, eggs, dairy products, processed foods, tobacco, junk foods, and white flour products (pasta, white rice and white breads). • Consume foods that require less chewing. When experiencing chronic lung disease a person may have difficulty breathing while chewing. Avoid gas-forming foods such as lentils (beans) and cabbage. These foods cause abdominal distention and interfere with breathing. Do not eat a typical American breakfast. Instead sip hot liquids to help clear the mucus. I like a specific drink made from hot water (not boiling, just hot enough to drink but not hot enough to deactivate the enzymes of the drink ingredients), some fresh lemon or lime and some molasses and organic raw honey. It's a warm sweet and sour drink. Excellent way to start the day. After an hour when you become hungry follow the hot drink by eating low sugar fruits like apples (organically grown), pears, oranges, berries and plums. Apples contain well-recognized medicinal and nutritional ingredients that offer profound benefit in protecting the health of, and optimizing lung function (Nick, p.142). A long-term study between 1979 and 1983 " found that lung function was linearly associated with dietary apple intake...The researchers found...that eating five or more apples a week was linked to slightly better lung function. The lung capacity in those individuals who ate apples was 138 millilitres higher, as compared to those who did not eat apples " (p.143). • Chlorophyll is very important. " Chlorophyll is the sun nutrient which is the basis for all plant life activity; the green blood of plants becomes the red blood of animals and humans. " (Alive and Well, June 1990). Since its molecular structure is very similar to hemoglobin in human blood, chlorophyll in green foods can help strengthen the immune system, support healthy blood and circulation, protect lung tissue, as well as help to maintain proper operation of the intestinal tract. The highest concentration of chlorophyll of any food is found in organic blue green algae harvested wild from Upper Klamath Lake, Oregon - http://tinyurl.com/g1iz and http://tinyurl.com/iw4k. Chlorophyll content per 10 grams: Wild blue green algae from Upper Klamath Lake - 300 mg Spirulina - 115 mg Chlorella - 280 mg Barley Grass -149 mg Wheat Grass -55 mg ( " Simply The Best " , 1992, p. 3). • Black cumin seeds are very well known in folk remedies in the Middle East. Traditionally, black cumin seed has been used for a variety of ailments including asthma, bronchitis and ailments of the respiratory tract. Generally, the seeds are added to food or ground and mixed with raw honey. The primary active components of black cumin seeds are certain oils that reduce the release of histamine. Histamine often causes allergic reactions and is associated with respiratory conditions such as bronchial asthma (Nutrition Science News, Jan. 2001, p.28). You can purchase black cumin seeds from Middle Eastern or Indian grocery stores. • Coenzyme Q10 is a very powerful antioxidant needed to protect the lungs. Choose a formula where CoQ10 is micro-blended with organic flax seed oil and wild-crafted blue green algae - http://tinyurl.com/f1f7. • Make sure you are taking enzymes with meals to digest your meals thoroughly. Make sure your enzyme blend is mixed with a whole food. Enzymes need nutrient co-factors in order to function properly, so these enzymes are micro-blended with a mineral-rich whole food which supplies those needed co-factors - http://tinyurl.com/mkwo. Also take acidophilus (http://tinyurl.com/24ajq) and bifidus (http://tinyurl.com/26rur) so you can get rid of excess mucus and reduce gas and distention. • In addition to taking enzymes with your meals to digest your cooked foods, use your enzymes in between meals to reduce excess mucus and inflammation. " Systemic enzyme therapy is used to reduce swelling and inflammation. Enzyme therapy stimulates the immune system, improves circulation, and helps speed tissue repair by bringing nutrients to the damaged area and removing waste products....Enzymes stimulate the body's own natural enzymatic processes without causing the immune system to be suppressed. They increase tissue permeability, as well as the rate of degradation of inflammatory and toxic products, and increase the rate of microthrombi breakdown, therefore reducing swelling. Consequently, they improve the supply of nutrients and oxygen to the tissues and the removal of the end products of normal metabolism. Therefore, the duration of the inflammatory process is reduced, ...and the healing process progresses more quickly ... " (Cichoke, pgs. 384-385). • Use castor oil packs on the chest. These packs are so soothing for emphysema and asthma. Directions for applying castor-oil packs over any area that has inflammation and discomfort: Buy cold-pressed castor-oil. Choose a quiet place where you can lie down. To make a castor-oil pack, you will need: cotton - flannel sheet pieces (four of them) measuring 1 foot by 3 feet, castor oil, a plastic sheet or plastic bag, a heating pad and a towel. Place the flannel sheets on top of each other. Pour castor oil into a large bowl (enough for soaking the sheets). Soak the cloth in it. Squeeze out the excess oil and lay the saturated cloth over the affected region. Place the plastic over the cloth. Put the heating pad(low heat) over the plastic. The towel is just in case you need to wipe any oil. Lie down and relax and leave the castor-oil packs in place for 30 minutes. Repeat three to seven times per week, for one to two months. You can store the oil-drenched cloth in a plastic bag between uses. You don't need to soak the cloth every time. Use the cloth three to four times and then throw it out and make a new one. • Avoid air pollution. Change jobs if necessary because your present environment may be dirty, dusty, and toxic to inhale. Do not use aerosol products. • Rest and avoid stress. Get plenty of fresh air. • Drink at least 8-10 glasses of water daily. Don't drink with meals, just in between meals (small sips of water). • Juicing is very helpful. Use carrot, parsley, celery, kale and different green leafy vegetables like kale and parsley. Smoothies provide raw ingredients that have lots of nutrients. Also, use brightly colored fruits such as blueberries, cherries, mangoes, etc. My favorite machine for making smoothies is the Vita Mix, because the resulting drink includes the very valuable fiber. It's an easy and enjoyable way to get your daily servings of fruits and vegetables, with no messy clean-up. You can get free ground shipping worth $25.00 if you use this code ~ 06-001715. • Take a clove or two of fresh organic garlic when you go to sleep at night. Cut it in small pieces and swallow it with a glass of water. Garlic is a natural antibiotic to help prevent infection. Garlic is a strong medicinal food. Therefore, make sure you don't take raw garlic more than 3 weeks in a row. • A folk remedy for asthma is ginger. Make a tea of freshly grated ginger root. Even just chewing a small part of the root can work literal wonders. • Celery seeds are believed to be a tonic for asthma. An infusion of the seeds in water in the ratio 1:20 is thought to calm the nerves and relief asthmatic wheezing. • A fast on cayenne powder mixed with fresh lemon juice and organic maple syrup should help with clearing inflammation in lungs. Drink 8 to 12 glasses of the above ingredients mixed with water throughout the day. Continue this fast for up to 20 days. I'm told by people who have done this fast that emphysema or asthma would clear up. References: Cichoke, . (1994). Enzymes and Enzyme Therapy. New Canaan, Connecticut: Keats publishing, Inc. Nick, . (June 2004). " Whole Foods Bestow Lung Cancer Protection and Improve Lung Function " . Townsend Letter for Doctors and patients. pgs. 142-144. Check http://www.bluegreensolutions.com, and click on " Test Drive Your New Body " for a 15 minute video of how health works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Duncan, I'm new to this forum so I'm not sure of all the players. Are you a ND, nutritionist, or nutritional researcher? Gayle ________________________________ From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 1:15:16 PM Subject: Re: Asthma Question Hi ; no, whey doesn't necessarily cause mucous. I get a little mucousy from homogenised milk and cheese but I don't seem to from whey even though the solids content is about 100 times higher in a whey drink than in milk. According to the PDR for prescription drugs, a whey isolate (Immunocal) is well tolerated even by severely milk sensitive individuals. A risk:benefit analysis to compare your personal reaction with the huge and well-detailed benefits of such an anti-aging tool will show you and most others that using it is better than not using it, even if you do make more mucous. Unless you are allergic to bovine proteins, undenatured whey should figure prominently in both your cure and your subsequent health maintenance/anti-aging program. In fact you can't do a strong program without attention to glutathione elevation so you'll want to do it however you can. all good, Duncan > > > Duncan, > > Doesn't dairy cause more mucous? Wouldn't more mucous aggravate asthma, runny >nose, nasal drip? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Yes, it does - it has glutathione, it has cysteine, it has glycine, it has GLA, it has amino acids, it has glutamic acid - and what's great about this is that it is all naturally occurring in there. There's no isolated substances, so your body actually recognizes it as food. I'm not calling Byron a liar - I'm just stating a fact that it is impossible to be allergic to algae - there are no allergens present. If you go back and re-read what I said - it could have been a cleansing, it could have been a reaction to degraded chlorophyll. It would not be a reaction to the algae. And there has never been found, in the past 30 years, any microcystins in the algae I was referring to. And no, I'm not confused. Carol > > Please don't lump me in with your vague comments Carol. If you have a point to make on my post, please just make it. I made mine about glutathione's role in asthma and other lung issues, and supplied references. Since algae doesn't contain glutathione precursors it can not produce the benefits listed in glutathione research: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Hi Gayle, As a background, I've been keeping up on nutritional and longevity research for about 20 years since my introduction to Durk and Sandy's book Life Extension in 1982 and subsequent LEF magazine subscription until around 1995 when I got Internet and better access to research via Pubmed, Medscape, online industry journals and such. I had to revisit all that during my five year health column in the local paper, which got yanked after dentists pulled their advertising following my mercury fillings articles As a wholistic consultant about half of my output is about edifying clients on what the research says, something like health coaching but backing it up like I usually do on the list. Besides the nutritional and anti-aging data I use detox methods, ozone therapy, Beck blood electrification, Beck magnetic pulser, cranial electrostimulation, binaural beat/hemi-sync, colloidal silver (I make high-volume colloidal silver makers for people too and I take electromagnetic radiation readings in homes and businesses. About half my clients are referrals from other health professionals including regulated ones, for things like drug-resistent ulcers, osteomyelitis, bowel issues, multiple chemical sensitivity, but some come just for the ozone saunas. Sounds pretty sober but I do have a fun side all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > > I'm new to this forum so I'm not sure of all the players. Are you a ND, > nutritionist, or nutritional researcher? > Gayle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Duncan, Thanks, you have certainly kept up in the field of nutrition. Life Extension has some great products. I am also a nutritional researcher for some natural heath radio shows and certain Physicians. I'm a nutritionist/chef so most of my research is more on food than on supplements. I was the Executive chef for MacNut Oil for many years until it was sold. I still love the product. I do like coconut oil for so many things. I'm writing a Human/Canine Cookbook and I use Coconut oil in many of the recipes. the best, Gayle ________________________________ From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 3:33:43 PM Subject: Re: Asthma Question Hi Gayle, As a background, I've been keeping up on nutritional and longevity research for about 20 years since my introduction to Durk and Sandy's book Life Extension in 1982 and subsequent LEF magazine subscription until around 1995 when I got Internet and better access to research via Pubmed, Medscape, online industry journals and such. I had to revisit all that during my five year health column in the local paper, which got yanked after dentists pulled their advertising following my mercury fillings articles As a wholistic consultant about half of my output is about edifying clients on what the research says, something like health coaching but backing it up like I usually do on the list. Besides the nutritional and anti-aging data I use detox methods, ozone therapy, Beck blood electrification, Beck magnetic pulser, cranial electrostimulation, binaural beat/hemi-sync, colloidal silver (I make high-volume colloidal silver makers for people too and I take electromagnetic radiation readings in homes and businesses. About half my clients are referrals from other health professionals including regulated ones, for things like drug-resistent ulcers, osteomyelitis, bowel issues, multiple chemical sensitivity, but some come just for the ozone saunas. Sounds pretty sober but I do have a fun side all good, Duncan > > Duncan, > > I'm new to this forum so I'm not sure of all the players. Are you a ND, > nutritionist, or nutritional researcher? > Gayle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 i just got an email that bioactive nutrients is selling a grass fed whey protien powder. maybe something to look into? Re: Asthma Question Your site recommends 40-60 grams of whey protein per day for glutathione production, which makes me wonder if there would be any effect at all on glutathione production from taking the recommended 4 algae capsules per day (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz), which contain less than one gram of protein. For all the hype about algae being a superfood, the recommended dosage contains only negligible amounts of nutrients. > > Please don't lump me in with your vague comments Carol. If you have a point to make on my post, please just make it. I made mine about glutathione's role in asthma and other lung issues, and supplied references. Since algae doesn't contain glutathione precursors it can not produce the benefits listed in glutathione research: > http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references > > Calling Byron a liar for thinking algae caused his allergic reaction is not discussion designed to investigate the reason. Maybe he's sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 hes about 23 lbs... 9 kg or so? Re: Re: Asthma Question Any idea how much your child weighs in kilograms? " Animal data indicates signs of toxicity can occur with ingestion of 0.5 mg/kg (20,000 IU/kg ) " http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml Cannell MD Executive Director Vitamin D Council 2003.09.05 updated 2009.06.20 Cannell's biography here: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/cannellBiography.shtml A while back,I checked into vitamin D3 toxicity. I have no links handy but I learned that 50,000 IU per day for an adult (usually meaning someone who weighs 180 pounds) should not be taken for more than a week at a time, but 25,000 IU was a safe daily dose. I took 25,000 IU per day all last winter with no negative side effects. Alobar On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, julia lowers. <cocheesie420@...> wrote: > i have an 18 month old and have been giving him 1000 d3 for a while every day. he has been sick only one time. does anyone know if this is an appropriate dose? the rda is ridiculous, but i dont wanna ove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Your site recommends 40-60 grams of whey protein per day for glutathione production, which makes me wonder if there would be any effect at all on glutathione production from taking the recommended 4 algae capsules per day (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz), which contain less than one gram of protein. For all the hype about algae being a superfood, the recommended dosage contains only negligible amounts of nutrients. > > > > Funny Byron, and Duncan -- I knew I'd get a rise from you, as usual...yes, we do disagree on whole foods vs. isolated/synthetic substances. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 , What helped stop asthma/allergy attacks was the purchase of the Ionic Pro Turbo Negative Generator. It cleans the air even of mold spores and even turns the ozone into oxygen. It gives me undisturbed sleep. No asthma, no allergy. I keep it behind me wherever i am in the house. Also someone mentioned take magnesium to bowel tolerance. It helps stop allergies. > > > > Hello: > > Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night. Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions would appreciated. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 A lot of people think that, because they are in the " more is better " way of thinking - if some is good, then more must be better. That certainly isn't always the case. Algae is a food - that's the difference, and it has all the nutrients in a balanced form. The most nutrient-dense food on the planet. It doesn't have mega-doses of anything, like what you will get with isolated and/or synthetic ingredients. Carol > > Your site recommends 40-60 grams of whey protein per day for glutathione production, which makes me wonder if there would be any effect at all on glutathione production from taking the recommended 4 algae capsules per day (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz), which contain less than one gram of protein. For all the hype about algae being a superfood, the recommended dosage contains only negligible amounts of nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Alobar, I recall Dr Joe Prendergast, an endocrinologist out of CA, talks about taking 50,000 IU of D3 per day himself for years w/o adverse effects. Not that I am recommending it, but also believe the toxicity concerns occur after several months on 50,000. Sorry, don't recall where I read that. A while back,I checked into vitamin D3 toxicity. I have no links handy but I learned that 50,000 IU per day for an adult (usually meaning someone who weighs 180 pounds) should not be taken for more than a week at a time, but 25,000 IU was a safe daily dose. I took 25,000 IU per day all last winter with no negative side effects. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 , Duncan needs to chime in to give his opinion of whether the whey from bioactivenutrients you suggested will boost glutathione or not. At a glace it looks good to me. However, it is expensive. I take NOW whey protein isolate daily and buy it in 10 pound bags for a tad less than $70. http://www.vitaglo.com/2149.html $70 would buy less than 3 pounds of the whey sold by bioactivenutrients. *Supplement Facts* Serving Size: 1 scoop (17 grams) Servings per container: Approximately 30 *Ingredients* *Amount per Serving * *% Daily Value* *Calories* 125 Calories from fat 5 Total fat 1g 0% Saturated fat 0g 0% *Cholesterol* 0g 0% *Sodium* 35mg 1% *Total Carbohydrates* 2.6g 5% Dietary fiber 1g 2% Sugars 1g *Protein* 15g L-alanine 1027mg * L-arginine 913mg * L-aspartic acid 2245mg * L-cystine 256mg * L-glutamic acid* * 3163mg * L-glycine 471mg * L-histidine 363mg * L-isoleucine 1368mg * L-leucine 2223mg * L-lysine 1967mg * L-methionine* * 384mg * L-phenylalanine 685mg * L-proline 1348mg * L-serine 1112mg * L-threonine 1368mg * L-tryptophan 449mg * L-tyrosine *+* 513mg * L-valine 1262mg * Also contains: L-glutamine 5g Vitamin A 3% Vitamin C 3% Calcium 9% Iron 1% +Naturally occurring. *Daily Value has not been established. **% Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs. * http://www.bioactivenutrients.com/products/165#desc Alobar * On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, julia lowers. <cocheesie420@...> wrote: > i just got an email that bioactive nutrients is selling a grass fed whey protien powder. maybe something to look into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 , At 9 Kg, the danger dose seems to be (according to the website I quoted in my previous post) to be 80,000 IU per day. I would not go anywhere near that high. According to my feelings of a safe high dose for me (125 IU per pound), a 23 pound child should easily be able to handle about 3,000 IU per day. Alobar On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:38 PM, julia lowers. <cocheesie420@...> wrote: > > hes about 23 lbs... 9 kg or so? > Re: Re: Asthma Question > > Any idea how much your child weighs in kilograms? > > " Animal data indicates signs of toxicity can occur with ingestion of > 0.5 mg/kg (20,000 IU/kg ) " > http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml > > Cannell MD > Executive Director > Vitamin D Council > 2003.09.05 updated 2009.06.20 > Cannell's biography here: > http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/cannellBiography.shtml > > A while back,I checked into vitamin D3 toxicity. I have no links > handy but I learned that 50,000 IU per day for an adult (usually > meaning someone who weighs 180 pounds) should not be taken for more > than a week at a time, but 25,000 IU was a safe daily dose. I took > 25,000 IU per day all last winter with no negative side effects. > > Alobar > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, julia lowers. <cocheesie420@...> wrote: > > i have an 18 month old and have been giving him 1000 d3 for a while every day. he has been sick only one time. does anyone know if this is an appropriate dose? the rda is ridiculous, but i dont wanna ove > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Carol, I think algae in some respects is a supernutrient whole food, but it fails in terms of adequacy on a couple of points. You mentioned it has glutathione content; all living things contain glutathione but their glutathione content has too little value to be meaningful as an oral supplement, as natural glutathione is broken up and digested and not absorbed whole. It's the bonded cysteine you mentioned (as cystine) that would be of interest; bioavailable cysteine is the rate-limiting factor for glutathione production. Moving on, according to the following analysis from two vendors of Klamath Lake blue green algae, the cystine content varies between .2% http://tinyurl.com/BGA-analysis and .6% http://www.klamathsbest.co.uk/ ....nutrient content varies with season, temperature, local nutrient availability etc. Using an average of 4 mg per gram, 900 grams or two pounds of blue-green algae would provide 3.6 grams or roughly the bonded cysteine delivered by 2-10 gram pouches of Immunocal or a 30 gram scoop of an undenatured whey concentrate. http://tinyurl.com/BGA-analysis from google's webcache: <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0LtCudhbfSUJ:www.algae-wor\ ld.com/algae11.html+cysteine+analysis+%22blue+green%22+algae+mg & cd=2 & hl=en & ct=cl\ nk & client=aff-cs-worldbrowser> 900 grams would, in one analysis, provide adequate selenium too; eating 2-4 pounds of algae daily may not be easily swallowed compared to 2-4 ounces of whey powder in water. The algae would have to be similarly refined in order to capture a useful dose in a similarly smaller package. And whey, even cross species whey, is almost the ideal food for mammals, allergic issues aside, so it's pretty hard to beat it as a supplement with any whole food. Enough of a romp with high-dose blue-green algae theory; few are likely to eat two pounds of algae either in theory or practice, while many do 2-3 doses a day of whey. Contamination of the entire watershed by blooms of microcystin-containing algae is a matter of record. This would be hard or dare I say impossible to control. For general interest, if you don't use Google Earth you should; you can see the blooms and currents in Klamath Lake for June 2005 for example. I could see the logs on a friend's cedar shake block application too Microcystins kill liver and kidney cells by killing cells' mitochondrial energy centers, something we try to avoid even at low levels because cell senescence and death due to mitochondrial impairment reduces life expectancy. Annual warnings about the hazard tell one how to correctly gut fish to avoid exposure to their entrails, which contain concentrated algae, and signs remind one to even avoid swimming in the contaminated waters. If the algae is microcystin-containing-algae-free when harvested by humans but not by fish, an investigation into a reaction may look at farm runoff, as there are lots of farms in the drainage area. I would speculate that reactions and fatalities may be rare, and they may involve chiefly those with bad liver function or bowel dysbiosis and resulting leaky gut. I lived in Abbotsford, which is also in the Pacific Northwest, although a city it was also a farming area that uses wells, so has or had pesticide residues in the water. Many people I found out reacted pretty consistently with stomach pains on tap water while most of us did not. all good, Duncan > > > > Please don't lump me in with your vague comments Carol. If you have a point to make on my post, please just make it. I made mine about glutathione's role in asthma and other lung issues, and supplied references. Since algae doesn't contain glutathione precursors it can not produce the benefits listed in glutathione research: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Hi , no, 4 caps of dried algae will have no effect on cellular glutathione levels; 2 pounds of Klamath Lake blue green algae may deliver as much bioavailable cysteine as 60 grams of whey concentrate. I think algae is superfood generally but unique deficiencies exist for each type, and I agree that capsule doses are negligible amounts of the superfood. Tank-raised superfood also exists. Gesundheit plankton is described as the most nutritionally dense strain of marine phytoplankton completely free of contamination. Still, you'd eat it by the ounce rather than capsule. http://www.gesundheit.ca/pdfs/gmp-certificate-of-analysis.pdf all good, Duncan > > Your site recommends 40-60 grams of whey protein per day for glutathione production, which makes me wonder if there would be any effect at all on glutathione production from taking the recommended 4 algae capsules per day (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz), which contain less than one gram of protein. For all the hype about algae being a superfood, the recommended dosage contains only negligible amounts of nutrients. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 , I think that may not be much more than marketing, because ALL our dairy cows here in the Pacific Northwest are grass-fed and I think it's uneconomical to raise them on grain if that's the implication. Eating hay off-season is still " grass-fed " . Do US farms feed dairy cows primarily silage or primarily grass? all good, Duncan > > i just got an email that bioactive nutrients is selling a grass fed whey protien powder. maybe something to look into? > -----Original Message----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 My whey isolate from London Drugs contains 640 mg cyst(e)ine per 30 gram scoop. The grass fed below contains 256 mg cyst(e)ine in 17 grams, quite a bit lower. all good, Duncan > > i just got an email that bioactive nutrients is selling a grass fed whey > protien powder. maybe something to look into? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 thanks so much alobar! Re: Re: Asthma Question > > Any idea how much your child weighs in kilograms? > > " Animal data indicates signs of toxicity can occur with ingestion of > 0.5 mg/kg (20,000 IU/kg ) " > http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml > > Cannell MD > Executive Director > Vitamin D Council > 2003.09.05 updated 2009.06.20 > Cannell's biography here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 duncan, ive actually been horrified hearing about what what some of the cows are fed here in the us. from what ive seen, cows are primarily corn and grain fed, but in the interest of saving money, ive read about cows even being fed beef byproducts. but because of the cows sensative stomachs which were not created to eat grains, the cows are then fed antibiotics and given hormones to grow faster, produce more milk, and tweak mother nature out of another few dollars. thats why my family uses coconut products . good day to you and yours. Re: Asthma Question , I think that may not be much more than marketing, because ALL our dairy cows here in the Pacific Northwest are grass-fed and I think it's uneconomical to raise them on grain if that's the implication. Eating hay off-season is still " grass-fed " . Do US farms feed dairy cows primarily silage or primarily grass? all good, Duncan > > i just got an email that bioactive nutrients is selling a grass fed whey protien powder. maybe something to look into? > -----Original Message----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 By that logic, I really didn't need to eat that entire plate of pastured lamb and mixed organic fresh veggies, because being a balanced meal of whole fresh foods, I really only needed to eat a few gram's worth to meet my nutritional requirements. It sounds to me like you've bought into a load of MLM marketing hype based on nothing more than new-age hippy religion and wishful thinking. > > > > Your site recommends 40-60 grams of whey protein per day for glutathione production, which makes me wonder if there would be any effect at all on glutathione production from taking the recommended 4 algae capsules per day (http://tinyurl.com/g1iz), which contain less than one gram of protein. For all the hype about algae being a superfood, the recommended dosage contains only negligible amounts of nutrients. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 *I have posted this before, but the Vit D Council recently wrote that the only known toxic event with Vit D was when them gave 110,000 iu/ day to people in an insane asylum with the objective of curing their mental illness, .back in the 30's. They got sick but recovered after they were taken off that heavy dose. This does not tell the whole story, but it tells you a good deal.* *D3 is simply not very toxic. I have taken 50,000 iu on several occasions without any adverse effect and would not hesitate to take 100,000 iu if I felt really ill. I agree with Alobar that 25,000 sounds safe enough, but I commonly take 5,000 iu/ day unless I feel badly, then I step it up.* *Dr. Mercola recommends tasting before taking large amounts and that would be a good idea, but I never have done that. My measure is that when you are getting a cold, that is adequate proof that you need more Vit D3* *and probably should up your daily dose accordingly.* *Since they have concluded that D3 apparently wards off most diseases including cancer, about any sign of unwellness may be proof that you need more.* On 11/4/2010 9:14 PM, e Rosewall wrote: > > Alobar, > > I recall Dr Joe Prendergast, an endocrinologist out of CA, talks about > taking 50,000 IU of D3 per day himself for years > w/o adverse effects. Not that I am recommending it, but also believe > the toxicity concerns occur after several months on 50,000. Sorry, > don't recall where I read that. > > > > A while back,I checked into vitamin D3 toxicity. I have no links > handy but I learned that 50,000 IU per day for an adult (usually > meaning someone who weighs 180 pounds) should not be taken for more > than a week at a time, but 25,000 IU was a safe daily dose. I took > 25,000 IU per day all last winter with no negative side effects. > > Alobar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 , I agree; for some of us like myself, optimal also means keeping oneself anabolic to avoid the organ, brain, and muscle shrinkage that occurs with the depreciation of aging. In the end, optimization retards the aging process IMO; at least, once you've prevented the top six preventable causes of death, then what would you die of? So I especially I hear you on the supplements; in my view when you add in some supplements that complement the foods you are eating as well as or better than more whole foods could, you can complete your diet more easily and you aren't eating isolated ingredients. But yes, sometimes I do gobble a handful of supplements with a whey shake rather than with a meal. Whey is a whole protein though so I don't worry about it much, and I note that some of that vitamin supplement is released in my stomach while my previous meal is being digested so the nutrients can still work 'together' in my cells if that's the goal. A meal takes awhile to break down so any supplement you eat can be fleshed out from the digesting intestinal contents I figure. all good, Duncan > > By that logic, I really didn't need to eat that entire plate of pastured lamb and mixed organic fresh veggies, because being a balanced meal of whole fresh foods, I really only needed to eat a few gram's worth to meet my nutritional requirements. It sounds to me like you've bought into a load of MLM marketing hype based on nothing more than new-age hippy religion and wishful thinking. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 Jim, if they were using vitamin D3 that is. D2 was also in common use until the 70's. all good, Duncan > > *I have posted this before, but the Vit D Council recently wrote that > the only known toxic event with Vit D was when them gave 110,000 iu/ day > to people in an insane asylum with the objective of curing their mental > illness, .back in the 30's. They got sick but recovered after they were > taken off that heavy dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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