New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

May 21, 2006

Hello, I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the yellow bar to

lower. He said that delta waves are the sleepy waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more. I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it. I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been passionate about. And when it comes to mundane tasks... forget it! So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my

professional future. Thanks so much,

May 21, 2006

Hi ~

Welcome to the group.

Training your brain is a great way to help yourself. One of your options is to train at home. It's not for everyone, some prefer to work with a clinician but if you are willing to learn, a lot, then purchasing your own equipment , taking workshops so you know how and what to do is a good start. Finding others in your area who also home train for support is an important part of being successful.

Where are you located? We may be able to find you a group of home trainers you can connect with.

To look at affordable EEG devices, software, and workshops you can look at www.brain-trainer.com . At this website you can read about brain waves and a free assessment tool you can download to use to assess your brain before you actually start to train. Each brain is different and learning what patterns you have can determine what protocols might be right for you.

Hope this helps some,

~

New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

Hello,

I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the yellow bar to lower. He said that delta waves are the sleepy waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more. I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it. I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been passionate about. And when it comes to mundane tasks... forget it! So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my professional future. Thanks so much,

May 21, 2006

Hi , Thanks so much for your quick and very helpful reply! Fiew! I'm starting to feel hopeful about my options - that I can be proactive and make the positive changes I'm looking for, and with the support I'm looking for. I'll definitely check out the site as a start. Thanks for taking the time to share. P.S. I'm in San , CA. Duncan <karenduncan@...> wrote: Hi ~ Welcome to the group. Training your brain is a great way to help yourself. One of your options is

to train at home. It's not for everyone, some prefer to work with a clinician but if you are willing to learn, a lot, then purchasing your own equipment , taking workshops so you know how and what to do is a good start. Finding others in your area who also home train for support is an important part of being successful. Where are you located? We may be able to find you a group of home trainers you can connect with. To look at affordable EEG devices, software, and workshops you can look at www.brain-trainer.com . At this website you can read about brain waves and a free assessment tool you can download to use to assess your brain before you actually start to train. Each brain is different and learning what patterns you have can determine what protocols might

be right for you. Hope this helps some, ~ New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD Hello, I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the yellow bar to lower. He said that delta waves are the

sleepy waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more. I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it. I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been passionate about. And when it comes to mundane tasks... forget it! So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my professional future.

Thanks so much,

May 21, 2006

,

Pete will be giving introductory workshops in Los Altos Hills, July 12-16. You can get more information on the website, www.brain-trainer.com.

Foxx

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of LinegerSent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

Hi ,

Thanks so much for your quick and very helpful reply! Fiew! I'm starting to feel hopeful about my options - that I can be proactive and make the positive changes I'm looking for, and with the support I'm looking for. I'll definitely check out the site as a start.

Thanks for taking the time to share.

P.S. I'm in San , CA.

Duncan <karenduncan@...> wrote:

Hi ~

Welcome to the group.

Training your brain is a great way to help yourself. One of your options is to train at home. It's not for everyone, some prefer to work with a clinician but if you are willing to learn, a lot, then purchasing your own equipment , taking workshops so you know how and what to do is a good start. Finding others in your area who also home train for support is an important part of being successful.

Where are you located? We may be able to find you a group of home trainers you can connect with.

To look at affordable EEG devices, software, and workshops you can look at www.brain-trainer.com . At this website you can read about brain waves and a free assessment tool you can download to use to assess your brain before you actually start to train. Each brain is different and learning what patterns you have can determine what protocols might be right for you.

Hope this helps some,

~

New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

Hello,

I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the yellow bar to lower. He said that delta waves are the sleepy waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more. I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it. I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been passionate about. And when it comes to mundane tasks... forget it! So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my professional future. Thanks so much,

May 22, 2006

,

You can get a very good training set-up for EEG training for about

$1.500-$1,800. As suggested, it would be a very good idea to find

someone, a local clinician or experienced home trainer, to mentor you. There

are some skills involved in training that are best learned hands-on: things like

site-finding, lead placement, etc. It is also pretty important to train the

right things, the things that will move YOUR brain in the best direction for

you. A salesman looking at your slow wave activity spikes at a show is probably

not the most sophisticated way to do that.

Dopamine production appears to be related to SMR levels relative to other

frequencies in the sensory-motor cortex (the band that goes across your brain

from the top of the ear on one side to the other) and/or to alpha production in

the back of the head.

Pete

>

> From: Lineger <mlineger@...>

> Date: 2006/05/21 Sun PM 09:54:28 EDT

>

> Subject: New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

>

> Hello,

>

> I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home

with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the

exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very

briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the

cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was

excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was

trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely

disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was

really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma

recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD

and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned

that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the

yellow bar to lower. He said that delta waves are the sleepy

> waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been

thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more.

>

> I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it.

I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been

passionate about. And when it comes to mundane tasks... forget it!

>

> So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us

about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told

my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar

disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many

sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in

holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want

to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my professional future.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

May 22, 2006

Thanks Pete for the informative response. Will you be running the workshop in Los Altos in July? If so, which workshop and who is it open to? Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: ,You can get a very good training set-up for EEG training for about $1.500-$1,800. As suggested, it would be a very good idea to find someone, a local clinician or experienced home trainer, to mentor you. There are some skills involved in training that are best learned hands-on: things like site-finding, lead placement, etc. It is also pretty important to train the right things, the things that will move YOUR brain in the best direction for you. A salesman looking at your slow wave activity spikes at a show is probably not the most sophisticated way to do

that.Dopamine production appears to be related to SMR levels relative to other frequencies in the sensory-motor cortex (the band that goes across your brain from the top of the ear on one side to the other) and/or to alpha production in the back of the head.Pete> > From: Lineger <mlineger@...>> Date: 2006/05/21 Sun PM 09:54:28 EDT> > Subject: New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD> > Hello,> > I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home with 2 young kids. Recently I attended a conference on energy medicine. In the exhibitors' salon, I had a chance to try neurofeedback for the first time, very briefly. I had heard of it before as a form of treatment for ADD, but knew the cost was out of my budget. So, having the opportunity to check it out, I was

excited! Not surprisingly, there were a few moments when the yellow bar I was trying to focus on in order to keep it at the highest level, completely disappeared off the screen. I wasn't blinking too much and believe me, I was really trying to focus! The salesman asked if I had suffered any trauma recently... nothing like a blunt question! I mentioned I was diagnosed with ADD and he then made the connection with how the technology responded. He mentioned that I likely have more delta brain waves than normal, which would cause the yellow bar to lower. He said that delta waves are the sleepy> waves. Although this experience was quite short (5 mins.), I've since been thinking of it and think it makes sense. I'd like to learn more. > > I've always had problems either sticking with a task in order to finish it. I very often get bored and lose interest... even with things that I have been passionate about. And when it

comes to mundane tasks... forget it! > > So, my questions are: How does neurofeedback work... what does it tell us about brainwaves? How do brainwaves relate to neurotransmitters (I've been told my dopamine levels are low)? What might this experience with the yellow bar disappearing say about how my brain works? There is no way I could afford many sessions of neurofeedback, but I also don't want to take meds. I believe in holistic health and the ability to train the brain. What are my options? I want to be able to focus more... for my kids, my family and my professional future. > > Thanks so much,> > > > >

May 23, 2006

,

Yep, I'll be training in Los Altos Hills, doing a Level 2 (running the

assessment and an overview of brain activity), BioExplorer (using the training

software) and Trainers Practicum (probably well beyond what you would want or

need). The first two might be very helpful. Level 1 would be a great base for

you as well, but that is not being offered, so I'll probably end up integrating

some of that material into Level 2. To the best of my knowledge these are open

workshops, so there will be some home trainers and some professionals in them.

Pete

>

> From: Lineger <mlineger@...>

> Date: 2006/05/22 Mon PM 05:38:14 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

>

> Thanks Pete for the informative response. Will you be running the workshop in

Los Altos in July? If so, which workshop and who is it open to?

>

> Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> You can get a very good training set-up for EEG training for about

$1.500-$1,800. As suggested, it would be a very good idea to find

someone, a local clinician or experienced home trainer, to mentor you. There

are some skills involved in training that are best learned hands-on: things like

site-finding, lead placement, etc. It is also pretty important to train the

right things, the things that will move YOUR brain in the best direction for

you. A salesman looking at your slow wave activity spikes at a show is probably

not the most sophisticated way to do that.

>

> Dopamine production appears to be related to SMR levels relative to other

frequencies in the sensory-motor cortex (the band that goes across your brain

from the top of the ear on one side to the other) and/or to alpha production in

the back of the head.

>

> Pete

>

> >

> > From: Lineger <mlineger@...>

> > Date: 2006/05/21 Sun PM 09:54:28 EDT

> >

> > Subject: New to group: Question about neurofeedback for ADD

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I was diagnosed with ADD last year after feeling quite challenged at home