Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 n, This is wonderful! Very good help, very good instructions, good detail about every step, even I should be able to achieve a crop of wheat grass. Don't know why I could not find it on the site, seemed like every aspect of sprouting was mentioned but this one escaped my old worn out eyes. Maybe wheat grass juice will help in that dept. First step is to decide which medium to use, vermiculite or soil, buy some trays, buy some seeds and tell my husband to get busy building the sprout table or I will have to use his precious pool table in the garage!  It even has a florescent light over it.  Ocean solution and juicer are on the way. You are an angel to send this info and I will be grateful to you every time I have a swig of the green juice. Curious... did you get your daughter to try wheat grass juice? If so, did she like it? Many thanks, ... From: n Rollings, PhD <drmarionrollings@...> Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass lighting ideas Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 9:10 PM ,From Sproutpeople's website on growing wheatgrass, soil, etc.Hope this helps Planting Medium: We have grown Grass - on soil - in Trays, for years. But, we now have alternatives: Soilless mediums Baby Blanket, Tencel, and Vermiculite, and organic liquid Kelp Fertilizer.Baby Blanket and Tencel are thin organic materials that you soak before planting upon. They holds moisture and are the least messy and compact mediums we know of. Vermiculite is a mineral which holds moisture supremely, dispenses added nutrients over time and in general acts much like soil. We think you should try all of them if you can - there are differences and though they are minimal you may prefer one method over the other and the only way to know for sure is to try. Instructions are pretty much the same in all cases, but where there is a difference we include purple text like this.Soil Note: Virtually any soil will do for Grass! We used sterile bagged soil (usually composted cow manure) when we were professional growers, but any sterile bagged soil will do. You can find some at your local garden center. You can use expensive soil if you prefer - it is your choice - always. Of course Organic is best, but it is usually quite costly.Tray Note: Your Planting Tray (the one with the soil ormedium in it) MUST have drainage holes or slits! Nothing will grow in a medium that can not drain - that condition is commonly called " flooded " . When using Baby Blanket, TencelorVermiculite your Planting Tray must also have drainage, but we do use the Drip Tray to hold some water at times in the growing process.**When growing Grass: You really MUST Pre-Sprout it before planting.Pre-SproutPut seed* into a bowl or your Sprouter. Add 2-3 times as much cool (60-70 degree) water. Mix seeds up to assure even water contact for all. Allow seeds to Soak for 8-12 hours. Empty the seeds into your sprouter if necessary. Drain off the soak water. Rinse thoroughly with cool (60-70°) water and Drain thoroughly. Set anywhere out of direct sunlight and at room temperature (70° is optimal) between Rinses.Rinse and Drain again in 8-12 hours. And, perhaps one more... Rinse and Drain in 8-12 hours. And, conceivably one more... Rinse and Drain in 8-12 hours. The goal is to have a small root before planting.When most of the seeds have sprouted tiny (1/16-1/8 inch) roots it is time to plant. This is typically after just 2-3 Rinse andDrain cycles.Planting Soil Note: The amount of soil you use is up to you. The reality is this: As your plants grow they need more and more water. They get their water from the soil. The more soil you use - the more water it can hold - the less you need to water.Thoroughly moisten the soil. Allow puddles to dry. Sometimes you may need to use your fingers to make sure the soil is moist all the way down to the bottom of the tray. Water, mix, water, mix, etc. Sometimes you don't have to do that.Baby Blanket/Tencel: Prepare the pad: Cut it to fit your Tray if necessary. Soak it in water or better yet, Kelp Fertilizer enriched water (You don't NEED fertilizer for grass, but we use it when we grow without soil.) until thoroughly saturated (fold it up and push it into the liquid - use a pot or something similar to hold it). Unfold it and re-fold differently or do whatever makes sense - the goal is to get the pad THOROUHGLY soaked. Spread the wet pad across the bottom of your Planting Tray. Proceed...Vermiculite: Vermiculite absorbs liquid so readily and holds it so supremely that you need little of it. We use 3 Cups for an 11 x 11 inch tray and 6 Cups for an 11 x 22 inch tray. If you're using another tray, make it 1/4 - 1/2 inch deep. Spray water evenly across the surface then spread it out as evenly as you can. We like to useKelp Fertilizer enriched water (You don't NEED fertilizer for grass, but we use it when we grow without soil.) so we just pour it on until thoroughly saturated and then spread it out. The amount of liquid is this: a little more than one quart for an 11 x 22 inch tray. You don't want more than a little left in the Drip Tray. Pour off what water remains above the ridges of the Drip Tray. Proceed...Spread seeds evenly on thoroughly moistened soil or medium. Rinse your seeds one last time and then sprinkle them across the planting medium. Spread them out as evenly as you can. We use a lot of grain and though some literature will tell you that your seeds should not ever lay atop each other, we have found from years of experience and thousands of Trays of Grass grown that that is bunk! You will learn for yourself that Grass produces a plant that takes up less room than the grain did, and so to maximize your yield your seeds must lay atop each other to some degree. The thing to watch is this: If you find mold or fungal problems in your Grass then lessen the amount of grain you plant. The hotter/more humid your climate is the more of an issue the mold/fungus is. As always, you need to adapt to your own climate and seasonal conditions. And learn as you go - this is really easy and fun stuff to learn!Cover the planted tray with an inverted tray (the Cover Tray) - to keep light out and moisture in. By inverted I mean that the lip of the Cover Tray rests directly on the lip of the Planting Tray - so the bottom of the Cover Tray is facing up.Note: Your covering tray should have holes or slits in it so that some air circulation exists. Without this very minimal air flow you might have mold or fungal problems.Place in a low-light, room temperature location. 70° is always optimal but Grass will grow very well in cooler temperatures also.Water lightly once or twice a day. The goal is to keep the sprouts moist until their roots bury themselves in the soil/medium - at which point your goal is to keep the soil/medium moist. Spraying the sprouts is best - whether you use a garden hose sprayer, hand sprayer or faucet sprayer - just try to make sure that every sprout gets rinsed and quenched until they bury their roots. You may also use some Kelp Fertilizer if you like.Water the medium. Once the roots are buried all you need to do is keep the mediummoist - the seeds and subsequent grass will get the moisture they need through their roots. Water from the side if possible, to prevent injuring the tender blades.The Soilless alternative. Baby Blanket and Tencel will dry out more quickly than soil in most circumstances, so you should either water more often or experiment with our somewhat risky trick:Use the Drip Tray to hold some water. The roots will actually sit in this, so don't go crazy - too much can drown your plants and/or lead to fungal or mold problems. Just leave as much water as the grass can drink in a day and then add more the following day. The amount is dependant on the climate (humidity especially) you're growing in, so you'll have to learn this for yourself. We suggest that you start with 1-2 cups in theDrip Tray. Lift the Planting Tray to see how much is left after 4, 8 and 12 hours. If the Drip Tray is dry add more water - if there is still water 24 hours later then cut back the next time you add water. Pretty simple really, and not as risky as we make it sound - it is really a time saver and produces happier healthy grass.Once again, we do recommend Kelp Fertilizer enriched water for soilless growers. Soil growers may use it too of course, but the soil does have some nutrients already, so it is not nearly as important for you.Vermiculite holds water better than anything, but the same method works for it: Use the Drip Tray to hold some water. The roots will eventually grow into this, so don't go crazy - too much can drown your plants and/or lead to fungal or mold problems. Just leave as much water as the grass andVermiculite can drink in a day and then add more the following day. The amount is dependant on the climate (humidity especially) you're growing in, so you'll have to learn this for yourself. We suggest that you start with 1-2 cups in the Drip Tray. Lift the Planting Tray to see how much is left after 4, 8 and 12 hours. If the Drip Tray is dry add more water - if there is still water 24 hours later then cut back the next time you add water. Pretty simple really, and not as risky as we make it sound - it is really a time saver and produces happier healthy grass. Use Kelp Fertilizer too. We probably give more water than is necessary, but we end up with great crops and the grass keeps growing even after we cut it - even if we don't add water daily. Vermiculite is great stuff!Uncover your Grass Wait 3-4 days until it is 1-2 inches tall or until it pushes the covering tray up (it really will do that - it is cool!)Move to a well lit location to Green your Grass (If you use direct sunlight (a very good idea for grass) be prepared to do more watering). Keep it moist by watering the soil/mediumdaily. Watch it grow. It takes about 10 days to get to....Harvest By cutting just above the soil/medium when the Grass is 6 or more inches tall (actually height is just a matter of yield - you can cut it any time you want to).Note: We believe that you will get the best flavor and nutrition from freshly cut Grass. We cut JUST prior to juicing and we feel the difference! But, you are better off juicing week old Grass than no Grass at all, so do what you must! Drink More Juice!If you are going to store your crop: During the final 8-12 hours minimize the surface moisture of your Grass - it will store best in your refrigerator if they are dry to the touch. So if you water try to keep the water off the plants - just water the soil/medium.Transfer your crop to a plastic bag or the sealed container of your choice - glass is good - and put them in your refrigerator.Note: Grass can produce a 2nd and even 3rd crop so you may continue to water the Tray after you cut your first crop. The 2nd and more so the 3rd crop is not as tender nor usually as big, but it is good to try growing at least a 2nd crop. Decide for yourself if it is worth it! Vermiculite is the best medium if you want to go for multiple cuttings! * Notes: If using Single Harvest Pack use the whole bag on our 5 inch tray (or similar).Or Use: 1/4-1/3 Cups Dry Grain for a 4-5 inch square Tray. 1-2 Cups dry grain for an 11 inch square Tray. 2-4 Cups dry grain for for an 11 inch x 22 inch Tray.The surest way to know what amount of seed to use: Spread dry seed on the bottom of your sprouter so that the seed is spread evenly but densely.**As I've said elsewhere on the site, we hate dogma, so take my dogma with a grain of salt. You can grow in trays without drainage, but you do have to be able to drain excess water away. Tipping is a possibility, but we think it risky indeed, hence my dogma.Once again: The more densely you plant the seed the less air circulates around the individual blades of grass. This can cause some fungal growth - we call it “fuzziesâ€. This is not a problem, except that it is unattractive. If you are consuming this as juice - just rinse it off when you harvest the grass. If you hate it - increase air flow by planting less seed. Additionally, you may move your grass to a better ventilated area. In summer we grow our grass outside (from the point when we uncover the tray) for optimal air circulation. Printable Sprouting Instructions     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hi , So glad the info helped. On the Sproutpeople website, I normally just put in a search term for what I am looking for--there seems to be hundreds of pages and I can get side-tracked so easily.I laughed when you joked about using your husband's pool table. :)I actually don't have a daughter, but a younger sister and her daughter, my niece, who didn't try the wheatgrass juice yet, but interestingly, as part of the Sprouting Christmas Gift, my sister wanted me to get her a sprout mix that contains a few grains (the 10 seed mix from Handy Pantry). So I think they are interested in trying grasses at least in the sprout form where they intend to mix the sprouts with brown rice.In fact, we all just had a late night snack--a generous bowl of mixed sprouts doused with balsamic, some oil, and I believe my niece put some soy sauce in her (yuck!). But as long as she is eating sprouts, I don't care what she puts on them.In the spirit of Melody, I packed up 2 large ziplock bags of sprouts for them to take home. Funny thing is, when I was watching Melody's youtube videos with my sister, she wanted to watch the one on the storage containers (OXO or OSO, I forget what they are called). , what juicer are you getting? I really enjoy using mine. I used the Omega today to make Wheatgrass juice, and then an apple carrot juice. Great stuff. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 n: OSO FRESH CONTAINERS. Here is the website where I got the whole set. BEST THING I EVER DID and a great price. http://www.100cookwares.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD & Product_Code=15971\ 0 Melody > > Hi , > > So glad the info helped. On the Sproutpeople website, I normally just put in a search term for what I am looking for--there seems to be hundreds of pages and I can get side-tracked so easily.I laughed when you joked about using your husband's pool table. :)I actually don't have a daughter, but a younger sister and her daughter, my niece, who didn't try the wheatgrass juice yet, but interestingly, as part of the Sprouting Christmas Gift, my sister wanted me to get her a sprout mix that contains a few grains (the 10 seed mix from Handy Pantry). So I think they are interested in trying grasses at least in the sprout form where they intend to mix the sprouts with brown rice.In fact, we all just had a late night snack--a generous bowl of mixed sprouts doused with balsamic, some oil, and I believe my niece put some soy sauce in her (yuck!). But as long as she is eating sprouts, I don't care what she puts on them.In the spirit of Melody, I packed up 2 large > ziplock bags of sprouts for them to take home. Funny thing is, when I was watching Melody's youtube videos with my sister, she wanted to watch the one on the storage containers (OXO or OSO, I forget what they are called). > , what juicer are you getting? I really enjoy using mine. I used the Omega today to make Wheatgrass juice, and then an apple carrot juice. Great stuff. > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Thank you Melody.Maybe I'll get her a set of those as well as a salad spinner for dehulling.Although she professed a preference for sprouts with the hulls on--must be a family trait. Only recently have I been dehulling Generally, sprouts don't last long enough in my house to get dehulled.Always good to have options, so I'll get her one. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 n, I accidentally asked about your daughter probably because my oldest daughter has been here with us for thanksgiving and that may have affected my thinking on sister/vs daughter. At least you knew what I meant. I have bought a manual wheatgrass juicer as we have a veggie juicer and and I hope this will do the job OK. I do not have a dishwasher or a dryer and figured I can handle another " dark ages " task. You know the old saying If you don't use it you will lose it and I do not intend to lose any more of my strength when I get older by making life too easy than is absolutely necessary . I hope I don't regret this philosophy when I am pumping away on juicing wheatgrass, but I will keep in mind that drinking the juice will eventually make the juicing effort easier and easier. We shall see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw. ... From: n Rollings, PhD <drmarionrollings@...> Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 12:01 AM Hi , So glad the info helped. On the Sproutpeople website, I normally just put in a search term for what I am looking for--there seems to be hundreds of pages and I can get side-tracked so easily.I laughed when you joked about using your husband's pool table. :)I actually don't have a daughter, but a younger sister and her daughter, my niece, who didn't try the wheatgrass juice yet, but interestingly, as part of the Sprouting Christmas Gift, my sister wanted me to get her a sprout mix that contains a few grains (the 10 seed mix from Handy Pantry). So I think they are interested in trying grasses at least in the sprout form where they intend to mix the sprouts with brown rice.In fact, we all just had a late night snack--a generous bowl of mixed sprouts doused with balsamic, some oil, and I believe my niece put some soy sauce in her (yuck!). But as long as she is eating sprouts, I don't care what she puts on them.In the spirit of Melody, I packed up 2 large ziplock bags of sprouts for them to take home. Funny thing is, when I was watching Melody's youtube videos with my sister, she wanted to watch the one on the storage containers (OXO or OSO, I forget what they are called). , what juicer are you getting? I really enjoy using mine. I used the Omega today to make Wheatgrass juice, and then an apple carrot juice. Great stuff. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 ,Manual wheatgrass juicers are great. I had one but returned it for the Omega because I make nutbutters and banana fruit sorbets, and juice a lot of other veggies too with it. The manual juicers do a great job--plus one gets the exercise too!I have asked many, many elders (folks over 90 especially) what the secrets are to longevity and they all say to keep moving, keep working, stay active. My grandmother once told me " when you get to my age, if you stop moving, they throw dirt in your face. " She lived into her 90's.I think she would have loved sprouting and wheatgrass juicing. marion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Hi everybody. Do me a favor and go to message board and view the question I just posted about wheatgrass. Much appreciated. Melody > > From: n Rollings, PhD <drmarionrollings@...> > Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas > > Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 12:01 AM > > Hi , > > So glad the info helped. On the Sproutpeople website, I normally just put in a search term for what I am looking for--there seems to be hundreds of pages and I can get side-tracked so easily.I laughed when you joked about using your husband's pool table. :)I actually don't have a daughter, but a younger sister and her daughter, my niece, who didn't try the wheatgrass juice yet, > but interestingly, as part of the Sprouting Christmas Gift, my sister wanted me to get her a sprout mix that contains a few grains (the 10 seed mix from Handy Pantry). So I think they are interested in trying grasses at least in the sprout form where they intend to mix the sprouts with brown rice.In fact, we all just had a late night snack--a generous bowl of mixed sprouts doused with balsamic, some oil, and I believe my niece put some soy sauce in her (yuck!). But as long as she is eating sprouts, I don't care what she puts on them.In the spirit of Melody, I packed up 2 large > ziplock bags of sprouts for them to take home. Funny thing is, when I was watching Melody's youtube videos with my sister, she wanted to watch the one on the storage containers (OXO or OSO, I forget what they are called). > , what juicer are you getting? I really enjoy using mine. I used the Omega today to make Wheatgrass juice, and then an apple carrot juice. > Great stuff. > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 n, a very wise lady, your grandmother, and it goes without saying that she would have been up to her eyebrows in sprouting and juicing. I am happy to hear that you were satisfied with the manual juicer, and of course it has its limitations as you found out. I don't know if I told you that last week while in the HFS buying seeds and sprouting trays I asked about wheat grass juice and a nice man gave me a sample of it to try. I remember your saying that it was too sweet but I found it just a strong grassy flavor, and don't think it will be unpleasant to drink everyday, and will no doubt get better as I get used to it. I imagine it would be quite delicious if mixed with apple juice or something similar. I could not go today to get wheatgrass seeds as the HFS is closed on Sat. but will be open tomorrow. I will not start them right away but will wait til the juicer comes so as not take the risk that the juicer will be delayed in arriving. and I will reread the article on wheatgrass sprouting again to refresh the procedure exactly. I started a new batch of broccoli yesterday, this time in a glass jar instead of the sprouting tray and am not covering it but keeping it out of direct light. Maybe allowing more circulation just might give me an edible crop of broccoli sprouts, but in any case I will buy new seeds in bulk tomorrow. And definately some new ones too. ... From: n Rollings, PhD <drmarionrollings@...> Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 5:25 PM ,Manual wheatgrass juicers are great. I had one but returned it for the Omega because I make nutbutters and banana fruit sorbets, and juice a lot of other veggies too with it. The manual juicers do a great job--plus one gets the exercise too!I have asked many, many elders (folks over 90 especially) what the secrets are to longevity and they all say to keep moving, keep working, stay active. My grandmother once told me " when you get to my age, if you stop moving, they throw dirt in your face. " She lived into her 90's.I think she would have loved sprouting and wheatgrass juicing. marion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 ,I am very excited to hear that you tried wheatgrass and liked it. I have gotten used to it. I heard the guy in the discountjuicers.com videos say that wheatgrass is good for cuts on your hand (Ann Wigmore said this originally), well once i had a cut on my finger that really hurt--so I took the wheatgrass pulp leftover from juicing and held it on the cut for a little while. Well the cut stopped hurting and healed practically over night. marion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Thanks for this link Melody. Ordering soon.                                                       \            From: Melody <eliz7212@...> Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:21 AM  n: OSO FRESH CONTAINERS. Here is the website where I got the whole set. BEST THING I EVER DID and a great price. http://www.100cookwares.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD & Product_Code=15971\ 0 Melody > > Hi , > > So glad the info helped. On the Sproutpeople website, I normally just put in a search term for what I am looking for--there seems to be hundreds of pages and I can get side-tracked so easily.I laughed when you joked about using your husband's pool table. :)I actually don't have a daughter, but a younger sister and her daughter, my niece, who didn't try the wheatgrass juice yet, but interestingly, as part of the Sprouting Christmas Gift, my sister wanted me to get her a sprout mix that contains a few grains (the 10 seed mix from Handy Pantry). So I think they are interested in trying grasses at least in the sprout form where they intend to mix the sprouts with brown rice.In fact, we all just had a late night snack--a generous bowl of mixed sprouts doused with balsamic, some oil, and I believe my niece put some soy sauce in her (yuck!). But as long as she is eating sprouts, I don't care what she puts on them.In the spirit of Melody, I packed up 2 large > ziplock bags of sprouts for them to take home. Funny thing is, when I was watching Melody's youtube videos with my sister, she wanted to watch the one on the storage containers (OXO or OSO, I forget what they are called). > , what juicer are you getting? I really enjoy using mine. I used the Omega today to make Wheatgrass juice, and then an apple carrot juice. Great stuff. > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Hi. No problem. You'll love these. If you want me to make a video of how my pantry shelf (and my fridge), look now, with all my OSO FRESH containers, I'll be happy to, just let me know. It's all so compact and saves up room, you can see through them so you don't have to label the containers, they stack in the fridge (and on my shelf), and the FOOD LASTS FOREVER in these things. lol Melody - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 n, the salad spinners are great for drying the sprouts before storage too, even if you don't want to de-hull them J Lorri (WA) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of n Rollings, PhD Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:49 AM Subject: Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas Thank you Melody.Maybe I'll get her a set of those as well as a salad spinner for dehulling.Although she professed a preference for sprouts with the hulls on--must be a family trait. Only recently have I been dehulling Generally, sprouts don't last long enough in my house to get dehulled.Always good to have options, so I'll get her one. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Don't put my sprouts away without giving them a ride in the spinner ew Re: Sprout / wheatgrass growing help / lighting ideas Thank you Melody.Maybe I'll get her a set of those as well as a salad spinner for dehulling.Although she professed a preference for sprouts with the hulls on--must be a family trait. Only recently have I been dehulling Generally, sprouts don't last long enough in my house to get dehulled.Always good to have options, so I'll get her one. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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