Re: anyone with MCS and food allergies?

[Guest guest]

Jeanine,

You may have posted your story earlier, but I'm sorry I don't

remember the details if you had. Could you please either on the

board or to my email give me the specifics of what has taken place

concerning your mold exposure. IE: home, employment, length of

exposure and if you had any testing done what did they find. It will

give me a better general idea what you are feeling. If you don't

mind. Is there anything that you are doing now as far as medication

or other suppliments to help the detox?

KC

>

> Two thinks that I know I have a food allergy to is corn and yeast.

> and when I say corn it means everypart of it. and its in

everything,

> and what its not in, yeast is.

> and of corse MOLD, in food.

> these things instantly cause a rolling and growling in my stomach

> that is painful and very loud and embaresing, no restruants for

me.

> this goes on until I have diearrhia, lots of times with blood.

> it also makes my belly swell up like a ballon, and makes me feel

week.

> while in the mold this became constant, several times a day, I

swear,

> the food wasn't staying in there long enough to digest.

> now heres the thing, I have MCS and when I have a strong reaction

or

> cant get away from the smell quick enough, I also get this same

> effect on my stomach. shoe stores cause this bad, not shure whats

> used to make shoes but it wipes me out. my daughter has to by my

> shoes for me, and I dont go shoping, only grocery store, because I

> have to. but anyway, does anyone esle have this same reaction? now

I

> look at this like this. what you are smelling, you are also

tasteing,

> there fore if your liveing in a moldy house, your also eating mold

in

> your house. its constantly contaminating everything. driveing by a

> corn field wipes me out, its worse when its tassleing and being

> harvest, I live in a mold(I mean corn) growing state. if I dont

> recover from this to be able to have a clean home in a state that

> maybe doesnt grow corn, I cant see getting well no matter what I

try.

> I dont know if its the corn or the toxic molds in corn , but its

not

> good. horses that get sick and die from trichathecene

mycotoxicosis

> or stachomycotoxicosis have diearrhia with blood.

>

[Guest guest]

can do KC, to tired tonight, will see if I can put something together

with out writing a book.lol's

> >

> > Two thinks that I know I have a food allergy to is corn and yeast.

> > and when I say corn it means everypart of it. and its in

> everything,

> > and what its not in, yeast is.

> > and of corse MOLD, in food.

> > these things instantly cause a rolling and growling in my stomach

> > that is painful and very loud and embaresing, no restruants for

> me.

> > this goes on until I have diearrhia, lots of times with blood.

> > it also makes my belly swell up like a ballon, and makes me feel

> week.

> > while in the mold this became constant, several times a day, I

> swear,

> > the food wasn't staying in there long enough to digest.

> > now heres the thing, I have MCS and when I have a strong reaction

> or

> > cant get away from the smell quick enough, I also get this same

> > effect on my stomach. shoe stores cause this bad, not shure whats

> > used to make shoes but it wipes me out. my daughter has to by my

> > shoes for me, and I dont go shoping, only grocery store, because

I

> > have to. but anyway, does anyone esle have this same reaction?

now

> I

> > look at this like this. what you are smelling, you are also

> tasteing,

> > there fore if your liveing in a moldy house, your also eating

mold

> in

> > your house. its constantly contaminating everything. driveing by

a

> > corn field wipes me out, its worse when its tassleing and being

> > harvest, I live in a mold(I mean corn) growing state. if I dont

> > recover from this to be able to have a clean home in a state that

> > maybe doesnt grow corn, I cant see getting well no matter what I

> try.

> > I dont know if its the corn or the toxic molds in corn , but its

> not

> > good. horses that get sick and die from trichathecene

> mycotoxicosis

> > or stachomycotoxicosis have diearrhia with blood.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Yes, most people who have MCS have food allergies; some have very severe

allergies and can only consume a handful of foods.

Your symptoms unfortunately are very typical and honestly not as severe as

many have.

Since you know you have a food allergy (I would call it an intolerance) to

corn and yeast. I'm assuming you are not eating anything with these two

products.

Have you done a food dairy log for at least a month? That is keeping an

accurate recording of everything you ingest daily, listing symptoms (no

matter how insignificant--such as had a bowl of oatmeal, was tired a few

hours later, etc) and also listing your activities and general environment?

You might also consider recording your pulse and basal body temperature.

Take your temperature under your armpits first thing in the morning before

getting out of bed for at least 10 minutes and recording that. Then take

your resting pulse. Take your pulse before you eat and 1/2 hour and 1 hour

after you've eating a meal. Unless you engage in exercise or are in a

stressful situation your pulse should not vary more than 20 beats. If so,

it may indicate a food allergy or intolerance.

Some also suggest totally avoiding all gluten and dairy products. Often

with your symptoms you will have irritable bowel (IBS) and leaky gut.

Gluten can further irritate your compromised GI system as well as diary.

Simple sugars are another suspect and remember sugars feed mold/fungi. You

may also have candida overload.

Are you wearing a good mask with a charcoal filter when you go outdoors and

in public places? It might be wise and useful.

Years ago I read a wonderful book by Dr. Reading called " Your Family Tree

Connection " . He wrote of one patient: " Jack, normally the most practical

and robust man was rushed to the ER, physical symptoms indicated a brain

tumor. Neither brain scan nor xrays found the slightest trace of a tumor so

nervous breakdown theory was resurrected. But he didn't fit either the

physical symptoms in my mind. What was going on in Jack's life? I thought

he might be schizophrenic. But as I talked with him, I changed my mind. I

found Jack extremely intelligent, likeable and as puzzled as anyone else by

what was happening to him.

After much discourse, I found the answer. Jack's maternal grandmother,

great uncle, great aunt and mother had all conditions suggesting marked

allergies to grains. The country town, to which Jack had moved only a few

years previous, after a lifetime in Sydney, was in the heart of wheatgrowing

area. For certain periods of the year, the air was thick with wheat dust.

He had massive allergies to wheat and wheat dust. Jack was suffering from

allergic encephalitis, a serious inflammation of the brain.

So you see " WHO " your symptoms are not unusual, not even driving by the corn

fields. I would strong suggest you avoid the corn fields if at all

possible; if not possible keep the windows rolled up and wear a good

protective face mask at all times.

A diet specific for you will help with the bloating and GI discomfort. I

recall you do not have an M.D. working with you and cannot afford expensive

testings so perhaps you will consider doing the dairy and wearing the mask

at all times.

We care and want to help you,

Rosie

[] anyone with MCS and food allergies?

Two thinks that I know I have a food allergy to is corn and yeast.

and when I say corn it means everypart of it. and its in everything,

and what its not in, yeast is.

and of corse MOLD, in food.

these things instantly cause a rolling and growling in my stomach

that is painful and very loud and embaresing, no restruants for me.

this goes on until I have diearrhia, lots of times with blood.

it also makes my belly swell up like a ballon, and makes me feel week.

while in the mold this became constant, several times a day, I swear,

the food wasn't staying in there long enough to digest.

now heres the thing, I have MCS and when I have a strong reaction or

cant get away from the smell quick enough, I also get this same

effect on my stomach. shoe stores cause this bad, not shure whats

used to make shoes but it wipes me out. my daughter has to by my

shoes for me, and I dont go shoping, only grocery store, because I

have to. but anyway, does anyone esle have this same reaction? now I

look at this like this. what you are smelling, you are also tasteing,

there fore if your liveing in a moldy house, your also eating mold in

your house. its constantly contaminating everything. driveing by a

corn field wipes me out, its worse when its tassleing and being

harvest, I live in a mold(I mean corn) growing state. if I dont

recover from this to be able to have a clean home in a state that

maybe doesnt grow corn, I cant see getting well no matter what I try.

I dont know if its the corn or the toxic molds in corn , but its not

good. horses that get sick and die from trichathecene mycotoxicosis

or stachomycotoxicosis have diearrhia with blood.

[Guest guest]

yes, also have food allergy to dairy products, havent found a mask

that works yet, thinking of takeing the regularcotton, cheap ones and

sewing satin over

them. -

-- In , " healthier4all "

<Healthier4All@...> wrote:

>

> Hi:

>

> Yes, most people who have MCS have food allergies; some have very

severe

> allergies and can only consume a handful of foods.

>

> Your symptoms unfortunately are very typical and honestly not as

severe as

> many have.

>

> Since you know you have a food allergy (I would call it an

intolerance) to

> corn and yeast. I'm assuming you are not eating anything with these

two

> products.

>

> Have you done a food dairy log for at least a month? That is

keeping an

> accurate recording of everything you ingest daily, listing symptoms

(no

> matter how insignificant--such as had a bowl of oatmeal, was tired

a few

> hours later, etc) and also listing your activities and general

environment?

> You might also consider recording your pulse and basal body

temperature.

> Take your temperature under your armpits first thing in the morning

before

> getting out of bed for at least 10 minutes and recording that.

Then take

> your resting pulse. Take your pulse before you eat and 1/2 hour

and 1 hour

> after you've eating a meal. Unless you engage in exercise or are

in a

> stressful situation your pulse should not vary more than 20 beats.

If so,

> it may indicate a food allergy or intolerance.

>

> Some also suggest totally avoiding all gluten and dairy products.

Often

> with your symptoms you will have irritable bowel (IBS) and leaky

gut.

> Gluten can further irritate your compromised GI system as well as

diary.

> Simple sugars are another suspect and remember sugars feed

mold/fungi. You

> may also have candida overload.

>

> Are you wearing a good mask with a charcoal filter when you go

outdoors and

> in public places? It might be wise and useful.

>

> Years ago I read a wonderful book by Dr. Reading called " Your

Family Tree

> Connection " . He wrote of one patient: " Jack, normally the most

practical

> and robust man was rushed to the ER, physical symptoms indicated a

brain

> tumor. Neither brain scan nor xrays found the slightest trace of a

tumor so

> nervous breakdown theory was resurrected. But he didn't fit either

the

> physical symptoms in my mind. What was going on in Jack's life? I

thought

> he might be schizophrenic. But as I talked with him, I changed my

mind. I

> found Jack extremely intelligent, likeable and as puzzled as anyone

else by

> what was happening to him.

> After much discourse, I found the answer. Jack's maternal

grandmother,

> great uncle, great aunt and mother had all conditions suggesting

marked

> allergies to grains. The country town, to which Jack had moved

only a few

> years previous, after a lifetime in Sydney, was in the heart of

wheatgrowing

> area. For certain periods of the year, the air was thick with

wheat dust.

> He had massive allergies to wheat and wheat dust. Jack was

suffering from

> allergic encephalitis, a serious inflammation of the brain.

>

> So you see " WHO " your symptoms are not unusual, not even driving by

the corn

> fields. I would strong suggest you avoid the corn fields if at all

> possible; if not possible keep the windows rolled up and wear a good

> protective face mask at all times.

>

> A diet specific for you will help with the bloating and GI

discomfort. I

> recall you do not have an M.D. working with you and cannot afford

expensive

> testings so perhaps you will consider doing the dairy and wearing

the mask

> at all times.

>

> We care and want to help you,

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

I also take prebiotics and probiotics. Its good bacteria live to put back in

your intestines. My NP suggested it. I buy it through Shaklee Co.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Bloody runs are a symptom of mold poisoning- as is candida- and

allergies get ramped up with mold- diet and CSM will resolve these

symptoms- you need to get the toxins out of your system- the only

proven way to do this is by binding the toxins in the gut with CSM

therapy

--- In , " who " <jeaninem660@...>

wrote:

>

> Two thinks that I know I have a food allergy to is corn and yeast.

> and when I say corn it means everypart of it. and its in

everything,

> and what its not in, yeast is.

> and of corse MOLD, in food.

> these things instantly cause a rolling and growling in my stomach

> that is painful and very loud and embaresing, no restruants for

me.

> this goes on until I have diearrhia, lots of times with blood.

> it also makes my belly swell up like a ballon, and makes me feel

week.

> while in the mold this became constant, several times a day, I

swear,

> the food wasn't staying in there long enough to digest.

> now heres the thing, I have MCS and when I have a strong reaction

or

> cant get away from the smell quick enough, I also get this same

> effect on my stomach. shoe stores cause this bad, not shure whats

> used to make shoes but it wipes me out. my daughter has to by my

> shoes for me, and I dont go shoping, only grocery store, because I

> have to. but anyway, does anyone esle have this same reaction? now

I

> look at this like this. what you are smelling, you are also

tasteing,

> there fore if your liveing in a moldy house, your also eating mold

in

> your house. its constantly contaminating everything. driveing by a

> corn field wipes me out, its worse when its tassleing and being

> harvest, I live in a mold(I mean corn) growing state. if I dont

> recover from this to be able to have a clean home in a state that

> maybe doesnt grow corn, I cant see getting well no matter what I

try.

> I dont know if its the corn or the toxic molds in corn , but its

not

> good. horses that get sick and die from trichathecene

mycotoxicosis

> or stachomycotoxicosis have diearrhia with blood.

>

[Guest guest]

-I have a wonderfull mak made of silk, that hooks over the ears-

called an " I can breathe " mask- got it at Allergy Control Product-

$22- you can wash it out and re-use it for a long time

-- In , " who " <jeaninem660@...>

wrote:

>

> yes, also have food allergy to dairy products, havent found a

mask

> that works yet, thinking of takeing the regularcotton, cheap ones

and

> sewing satin over

>

them.

-

> -- In , " healthier4all "

> <Healthier4All@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi:

> >

> > Yes, most people who have MCS have food allergies; some have

very

> severe

> > allergies and can only consume a handful of foods.

> >

> > Your symptoms unfortunately are very typical and honestly not as

> severe as

> > many have.

> >

> > Since you know you have a food allergy (I would call it an

> intolerance) to

> > corn and yeast. I'm assuming you are not eating anything with

these

> two

> > products.

> >

> > Have you done a food dairy log for at least a month? That is

> keeping an

> > accurate recording of everything you ingest daily, listing

symptoms

> (no

> > matter how insignificant--such as had a bowl of oatmeal, was

tired

> a few

> > hours later, etc) and also listing your activities and general

> environment?

> > You might also consider recording your pulse and basal body

> temperature.

> > Take your temperature under your armpits first thing in the

morning

> before

> > getting out of bed for at least 10 minutes and recording that.

> Then take

> > your resting pulse. Take your pulse before you eat and 1/2 hour

> and 1 hour

> > after you've eating a meal. Unless you engage in exercise or

are

> in a

> > stressful situation your pulse should not vary more than 20

beats.

> If so,

> > it may indicate a food allergy or intolerance.

> >

> > Some also suggest totally avoiding all gluten and dairy

products.

> Often

> > with your symptoms you will have irritable bowel (IBS) and leaky

> gut.

> > Gluten can further irritate your compromised GI system as well

as

> diary.

> > Simple sugars are another suspect and remember sugars feed

> mold/fungi. You

> > may also have candida overload.

> >

> > Are you wearing a good mask with a charcoal filter when you go

> outdoors and

> > in public places? It might be wise and useful.

> >

> > Years ago I read a wonderful book by Dr. Reading called " Your

> Family Tree

> > Connection " . He wrote of one patient: " Jack, normally the most

> practical

> > and robust man was rushed to the ER, physical symptoms indicated

a

> brain

> > tumor. Neither brain scan nor xrays found the slightest trace

of a

> tumor so

> > nervous breakdown theory was resurrected. But he didn't fit

either

> the

> > physical symptoms in my mind. What was going on in Jack's

life? I

> thought

> > he might be schizophrenic. But as I talked with him, I changed

my

> mind. I

> > found Jack extremely intelligent, likeable and as puzzled as

anyone

> else by

> > what was happening to him.

> > After much discourse, I found the answer. Jack's maternal

> grandmother,

> > great uncle, great aunt and mother had all conditions suggesting

> marked

> > allergies to grains. The country town, to which Jack had moved

> only a few

> > years previous, after a lifetime in Sydney, was in the heart of

> wheatgrowing

> > area. For certain periods of the year, the air was thick with

> wheat dust.

> > He had massive allergies to wheat and wheat dust. Jack was

> suffering from

> > allergic encephalitis, a serious inflammation of the brain.

> >

> > So you see " WHO " your symptoms are not unusual, not even driving

by

> the corn

> > fields. I would strong suggest you avoid the corn fields if at

all

> > possible; if not possible keep the windows rolled up and wear a

good

> > protective face mask at all times.

> >

> > A diet specific for you will help with the bloating and GI

> discomfort. I

> > recall you do not have an M.D. working with you and cannot

afford

> expensive

> > testings so perhaps you will consider doing the dairy and

wearing

> the mask

> > at all times.

> >

> > We care and want to help you,

> > Rosie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>On Behalf Of who

yes, also have food allergy to dairy products, havent found a mask

that works yet, thinking of takeing the regularcotton, cheap ones and

sewing satin over them. >>

I hope you have eliminated all dairy, corn and yeast from your diet. It's

difficult because so often they are hidden in our prepared foods but it can

be done. Do consider the food diary since you don't have the money for

expensive tests. Have you tried the N95 masks from Home Depot or other

sources?

I know you can do it! You can take some simple steps to change your diet

and get a face mask, not a cure or major solution but will help.

Rosie

-

[Guest guest]

>> Behalf Of carondeen

-I have a wonderfull mak made of silk, that hooks over the ears-

called an " I can breathe " mask- got it at Allergy Control Product-

$22- you can wash it out and re-use it for a long time

-- >>

I agree . I have one also and it's very good. When I need extra

protection I'll insert a charcoal filter inside the silk mask.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

yes, I have changed my diet, but like I said, strong smells,

because of MCS have the same effect, I've try most masks, except for

the honeycomb, charcoal one, from breath easy, but read post were its

not working for several, so I dont want to waist my money anymore on

things that dont work, one of the other group had big discusion on

this, a few days ago, dont remember which one--- In

, " healthier4all " <Healthier4All@...>

wrote:

>

> >>On Behalf Of who

> yes, also have food allergy to dairy products, havent found a

mask

> that works yet, thinking of takeing the regularcotton, cheap ones

and

> sewing satin over them. >>

>

> I hope you have eliminated all dairy, corn and yeast from your

diet. It's

> difficult because so often they are hidden in our prepared foods

but it can

> be done. Do consider the food diary since you don't have the money

for

> expensive tests. Have you tried the N95 masks from Home Depot or

other

> sources?

>

> I know you can do it! You can take some simple steps to change

your diet

> and get a face mask, not a cure or major solution but will help.

> Rosie

>

> -

>

[Guest guest]

When I was a little girl, I had a terribly ulcerated throat from too

strong of an antibiotic. I went to an ear, nose and throat doctor.

He told me to go home and drink buttermilk, now yogurt has more

probiotics. It cleared up in a few days. What puzzles me is I can

take in tons of that stuff now and it does not seem to help digestive

tract, so I wonder what the problem is. Why would problem be totally

resolved in a few days to a week then when antibiotic really striped

my throat so clean of bacteria, it broke out in ulcers (the friendly

bacteria creat the 'mucous moisture' of your digestive tract. If you

kill them completely, you have no mucous moisture and your throat and

gi tract dry out and become ulcerated), but now I can take it for a

year and still having digestive problems. I know I didn't have to

take it very long, and I just did it after an antibiotic that was too

strong. I didn't keep doing it forever. Makes me wonder if Candida

is not allowing it to make a home in gi tract and taking lots of it i

s won't change that.

>

> I also take prebiotics and probiotics. Its good bacteria live to put

back in

> your intestines. My NP suggested it. I buy it through Shaklee Co.

> Janet

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a friend that works for the RR gave me his god ugly mask, I wore it

the last time I was in court, but while setting there waiting, I

started to have breathing problems because of the lack of air that I

was getting through this mask, on the way outside, I got a smell of

some kind of chemical, possably a cleaning product , that went right

through this mask. was supposed to be the best. different mask help

with different things but none so far tried stops everything, still

looking, may have to try the breathe easy honeycomb with charcoal

lining, which 2 people in another group reported that after useing a

few weeks developed some kind of glue smell to

it. --

- In , Gingersnap1964@... wrote:

>

> I use an N95 mask bought at a hardware store.

> Janet

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps a brief - it really is this time! - discussion will help

understand the differing experiences of filter masks.

The N95 mask is designed to stop 95% of 0.3 micron particles. The

N100 is actually a HEPA rated mask that stops 99.97% of 0.3 micron

particles. Neither of which stops molecules which is what chemicals

and odors are. Molecules are 100s to 1000s of times smaller than

particles. They go through HEPA like water through a paper towel.

They go through N95 like water through screen wire.

The smaller the particle that can be stopped the smaller the pores in

the mask. Which means it is harder to get air through it. There is

some air resistance with N95 but even more so with N100. Try running

while wearing either type.

To remove chemicals and odors you need the mask with the charcoal

lining or the respirator with the charcoal canisters. It is the

charcoal that reduces molecules, IF they will " stick " to it, called

adsorbtion. Even then, the charcoal can adsorb only so much.

Canisters cost more than linings but they have more charcoal and will

last longer. Once the charcoal is " full " then not only will new odors

pass through as if there were no charcoal, but odors already

" stopped " can become " unstuck " and pass through the mask to your

nose. When they start " smelling " after awhile, it's time for a new

one.

Finally, one reason Janet's N95 will work for her is because some

molecules will piggyback on particles. Remove the particle and the

moledules may stay with it. To understand, imagine a grain of sand

expanded to the size of a giant beach ball. Molecules, by comparison,

would be tiny grains of sand sticking to the beach ball.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> a friend that works for the RR gave me his god ugly mask, I wore it

> the last time I was in court, but while setting there waiting, I

> started to have breathing problems because of the lack of air that I

> was getting through this mask, on the way outside, I got a smell of

> some kind of chemical, possably a cleaning product , that went right

> through this mask. was supposed to be the best. different mask help

> with different things but none so far tried stops everything, still

> looking, may have to try the breathe easy honeycomb with charcoal

> lining, which 2 people in another group reported that after useing a

> few weeks developed some kind of glue smell to it.

> -- - In ,

> Gingersnap1964@... wrote: > > I use an N95 mask bought at a hardware

> store. > Janet > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed] >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thank you carl, I have been reading up on this, can you tell me,

does satin keep the paticles from smells out or is the charcoal the

only way to

go?

> > I use an N95 mask bought at a hardware

> > store. > Janet > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed] >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm not Carl but I can say that satin will not filter odors, which are

molecules rather than particles. If I want to protect myself from some

(common every-day) molecules-odors I will use a charcoal filter inside a

mask. I tested this once deciding to go into a smelly thrift store full of

odors (molecules) from fabric softeners, artificial fragrances, etc. With

the face mask and charcoal filter insert I could not " smell " the odors when

I walked in. Without out the charcoal I can immediately smell the odors as

soon as I walk in.

Have a friend who bought an expensive air purifier with a charcoal canister.

I noticed smells coming out of her air purifier and mentioned to her. She

said that's just the peculiar smell of the charcoal. She hadn't changed it

in 4 1/2 years saying the company stated it would last for 5 years. Carl

explained this so well that the charcoal can only absorb so much and then

will put back into the air. Yuck! She didn't believe me. So we need to be

careful to inspect our charcoal face masks and our charcoal canisters for

" smells " . Thank you Carl for pointing this out.

When I painted with enamel my front wrought iron gate I had to use a

respirator with the charcoal canisters as Carl described. A regular face

mask with a charcoal filter insert would not have protected me. It was

certainly hot and I was so happy when I finished the project. I keep it

with spare canisters for emergencies.

Hope this helps,

Rosie

PS: I know our Carl will explain in more detail.

On Behalf Of who

Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:37 PM

thank you carl, I have been reading up on this, can you tell me,

does satin keep the paticles from smells out or is the charcoal the

only way to

go?

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> Perhaps a brief - it really is this time! - discussion will help

> understand the differing experiences of filter masks.

>

> The N95 mask is designed to stop 95% of 0.3 micron particles. The

> N100 is actually a HEPA rated mask that stops 99.97% of 0.3 micron

> particles. Neither of which stops molecules which is what chemicals

> and odors are. Molecules are 100s to 1000s of times smaller than

> particles. They go through HEPA like water through a paper towel.

> They go through N95 like water through screen wire.

>

> The smaller the particle that can be stopped the smaller the pores

in

> the mask. Which means it is harder to get air through it. There is

> some air resistance with N95 but even more so with N100. Try

running

> while wearing either type.

>

> To remove chemicals and odors you need the mask with the charcoal

> lining or the respirator with the charcoal canisters. It is the

> charcoal that reduces molecules, IF they will " stick " to it, called

> adsorbtion. Even then, the charcoal can adsorb only so much.

> Canisters cost more than linings but they have more charcoal and

will

> last longer. Once the charcoal is " full " then not only will new

odors

> pass through as if there were no charcoal, but odors already

> " stopped " can become " unstuck " and pass through the mask to your

> nose. When they start " smelling " after awhile, it's time for a new

> one.

>

> Finally, one reason Janet's N95 will work for her is because some

> molecules will piggyback on particles. Remove the particle and the

> moledules may stay with it. To understand, imagine a grain of sand

> expanded to the size of a giant beach ball. Molecules, by

comparison,

> would be tiny grains of sand sticking to the beach ball.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

[Guest guest]

You did great, Rosie! There are many on this group that have

expertise and can express it in different ways so we all " get it. "

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I'm not Carl but I can say that satin will not filter odors, which are

> molecules rather than particles. If I want to protect myself from

> some (common every-day) molecules-odors I will use a charcoal filter

> inside a mask. I tested this once deciding to go into a smelly thrift

> store full of odors (molecules) from fabric softeners, artificial

> fragrances, etc. With the face mask and charcoal filter insert I

> could not " smell " the odors when I walked in. Without out the charcoal

> I can immediately smell the odors as soon as I walk in.

>

> Have a friend who bought an expensive air purifier with a charcoal

> canister. I noticed smells coming out of her air purifier and

> mentioned to her. She said that's just the peculiar smell of the

> charcoal. She hadn't changed it in 4 1/2 years saying the company

> stated it would last for 5 years. Carl explained this so well that

> the charcoal can only absorb so much and then will put back into the

> air. Yuck! She didn't believe me. So we need to be careful to

> inspect our charcoal face masks and our charcoal canisters for

> " smells " . Thank you Carl for pointing this out.

>

> When I painted with enamel my front wrought iron gate I had to use a

> respirator with the charcoal canisters as Carl described. A regular

> face mask with a charcoal filter insert would not have protected me.

> It was certainly hot and I was so happy when I finished the project.

> I keep it with spare canisters for emergencies.

>

> Hope this helps,

> Rosie

> PS: I know our Carl will explain in more detail.

>

> On Behalf Of who

> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:37 PM

>

> thank you carl, I have been reading up on this, can you tell me,

> does satin keep the paticles from smells out or is the charcoal the

> only way to go?

> > > Perhaps a brief - it really is this time! - discussion will

> help > understand the differing experiences of filter masks. > > The

> N95 mask is designed to stop 95% of 0.3 micron particles. The > N100

> is actually a HEPA rated mask that stops 99.97% of 0.3 micron >

> particles. Neither of which stops molecules which is what chemicals >

> and odors are. Molecules are 100s to 1000s of times smaller than >

> particles. They go through HEPA like water through a paper towel. >

> They go through N95 like water through screen wire. > > The smaller

> the particle that can be stopped the smaller the pores in > the mask.

> Which means it is harder to get air through it. There is > some air

> resistance with N95 but even more so with N100. Try running > while

> wearing either type. > > To remove chemicals and odors you need the

> mask with the charcoal > lining or the respirator with the charcoal

> canisters. It is the > charcoal that reduces molecules, IF they will

> " stick " to it, called > adsorbtion. Even then, the charcoal can adsorb

> only so much. > Canisters cost more than linings but they have more

> charcoal and will > last longer. Once the charcoal is " full " then not

> only will new odors > pass through as if there were no charcoal, but

> odors already > " stopped " can become " unstuck " and pass through the

> mask to your > nose. When they start " smelling " after awhile, it's

> time for a new > one. > > Finally, one reason Janet's N95 will work

> for her is because some > molecules will piggyback on particles.

> Remove the particle and the > moledules may stay with it. To

> understand, imagine a grain of sand > expanded to the size of a giant

> beach ball. Molecules, by comparison, > would be tiny grains of sand

> sticking to the beach ball. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>On Behalf Of Carl E. Grimes

You did great, Rosie! There are many on this group that have

expertise and can express it in different ways so we all " get it. " Carl

Grimes>>

Thank you Carl. Coming from you this is a lovely compliment. Does this

mean I've graduated from kindergarten and now ready for first grade?

So much to learn and so grateful for all the experts on this group teaching

me.

Rosie

[Guest guest]

I would expand this to say that people who are mold exposed develope MCS and

also any

allergies they may have become extremely exacerbated, and eventually they can

react to

anything and everything. Not to mention those that have no allergies of any

kind, but are

reacting via a different mechanism, also caused by the mold exposure.

Many people who are mold exposed not only have the toxins to worry about, but

also

fungal infections which in turn make the reactions worse. I don't hear enough

about this

on this board, but it is a very serious condition. Many mold exposed people end

up with

fungal infections in many different parts of the body- which is only seen when

sent to a

toxicologist after surgical removal. This is what gave the Mayo clinic doctors

the idea to

look for a fungal link to sinusitis, they kept seeing all this fungus in the

sinus tissue they

removed during surgery. Others have reported fungus in the uterus, pancreas,

etc. It is

unknown how many organ systems get infected by this, but odds are it is most of

them.

It seems to me when you have a big fungal mess inside you, it puts out many

hormone

mimics and other chemical disrupters that mess us up in many ways. That is what

it feels

like to me, IMHO.

if you have an infection, how can you get better unless you get rid of it first

and foremost?

>

> Hi:

>

> Yes, most people who have MCS have food allergies; some have very severe

> allergies and can only consume a handful of foods.

>

> Your symptoms unfortunately are very typical and honestly not as severe as

> many have.

>

> Since you know you have a food allergy (I would call it an intolerance) to

> corn and yeast. I'm assuming you are not eating anything with these two

> products.

>

> Have you done a food dairy log for at least a month? That is keeping an

> accurate recording of everything you ingest daily, listing symptoms (no

> matter how insignificant--such as had a bowl of oatmeal, was tired a few

> hours later, etc) and also listing your activities and general environment?

> You might also consider recording your pulse and basal body temperature.

> Take your temperature under your armpits first thing in the morning before

> getting out of bed for at least 10 minutes and recording that. Then take

> your resting pulse. Take your pulse before you eat and 1/2 hour and 1 hour

> after you've eating a meal. Unless you engage in exercise or are in a

> stressful situation your pulse should not vary more than 20 beats. If so,

> it may indicate a food allergy or intolerance.

>

> Some also suggest totally avoiding all gluten and dairy products. Often

> with your symptoms you will have irritable bowel (IBS) and leaky gut.

> Gluten can further irritate your compromised GI system as well as diary.

> Simple sugars are another suspect and remember sugars feed mold/fungi. You

> may also have candida overload.

>

> Are you wearing a good mask with a charcoal filter when you go outdoors and

> in public places? It might be wise and useful.

>

> Years ago I read a wonderful book by Dr. Reading called " Your Family Tree

> Connection " . He wrote of one patient: " Jack, normally the most practical

> and robust man was rushed to the ER, physical symptoms indicated a brain

> tumor. Neither brain scan nor xrays found the slightest trace of a tumor so

> nervous breakdown theory was resurrected. But he didn't fit either the

> physical symptoms in my mind. What was going on in Jack's life? I thought

> he might be schizophrenic. But as I talked with him, I changed my mind. I

> found Jack extremely intelligent, likeable and as puzzled as anyone else by

> what was happening to him.

> After much discourse, I found the answer. Jack's maternal grandmother,

> great uncle, great aunt and mother had all conditions suggesting marked

> allergies to grains. The country town, to which Jack had moved only a few

> years previous, after a lifetime in Sydney, was in the heart of wheatgrowing

> area. For certain periods of the year, the air was thick with wheat dust.

> He had massive allergies to wheat and wheat dust. Jack was suffering from

> allergic encephalitis, a serious inflammation of the brain.

>

> So you see " WHO " your symptoms are not unusual, not even driving by the corn

> fields. I would strong suggest you avoid the corn fields if at all

> possible; if not possible keep the windows rolled up and wear a good

> protective face mask at all times.

>

> A diet specific for you will help with the bloating and GI discomfort. I

> recall you do not have an M.D. working with you and cannot afford expensive

> testings so perhaps you will consider doing the dairy and wearing the mask

> at all times.

>

> We care and want to help you,

> Rosie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [] anyone with MCS and food allergies?

>

> Two thinks that I know I have a food allergy to is corn and yeast.

> and when I say corn it means everypart of it. and its in everything,

> and what its not in, yeast is.

> and of corse MOLD, in food.

> these things instantly cause a rolling and growling in my stomach

> that is painful and very loud and embaresing, no restruants for me.

> this goes on until I have diearrhia, lots of times with blood.

> it also makes my belly swell up like a ballon, and makes me feel week.

> while in the mold this became constant, several times a day, I swear,

> the food wasn't staying in there long enough to digest.

> now heres the thing, I have MCS and when I have a strong reaction or

> cant get away from the smell quick enough, I also get this same

> effect on my stomach. shoe stores cause this bad, not shure whats

> used to make shoes but it wipes me out. my daughter has to by my

> shoes for me, and I dont go shoping, only grocery store, because I

> have to. but anyway, does anyone esle have this same reaction? now I

> look at this like this. what you are smelling, you are also tasteing,

> there fore if your liveing in a moldy house, your also eating mold in

> your house. its constantly contaminating everything. driveing by a

> corn field wipes me out, its worse when its tassleing and being

> harvest, I live in a mold(I mean corn) growing state. if I dont

> recover from this to be able to have a clean home in a state that

> maybe doesnt grow corn, I cant see getting well no matter what I try.

> I dont know if its the corn or the toxic molds in corn , but its not

> good. horses that get sick and die from trichathecene mycotoxicosis

> or stachomycotoxicosis have diearrhia with blood.

>