Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Can somebody explain this design to me? I think I understand that its training something down. Why is the percentile used as the input to the Range measure? The DVD goes off and on like crazy, is there a way to reduce this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 , The Many Thresholds design is a design from Goldstein, distributed with his permission, which is an attempt to recreate the NeuroCare Pro approach to training down emerging variability. You can search back through the BioExplorer list archives for his explanation of how he uses it (one of the best was actually a response to you). Pete > > From: Goldring <paul.goldring1@...> > Date: 2006/01/31 Tue PM 01:49:03 EST > > Subject: NCP Manythresholds > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Shows how I was paying attention. P On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Van Deusen wrote: > , > > The Many Thresholds design is a design from Goldstein, > distributed with his permission, which is an attempt to recreate > the NeuroCare Pro approach to training down emerging variability. > You can search back through the BioExplorer list archives for his > explanation of how he uses it (one of the best was actually a > response to you). > > Pete > >> >> From: Goldring <paul.goldring1@...> >> Date: 2006/01/31 Tue PM 01:49:03 EST >> >> Subject: NCP Manythresholds >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Van Deusen wrote:,The Many Thresholds design is a design from Goldstein, distributed with his permission, which is an attempt to recreate the NeuroCare Pro approach to training down emerging variability. You can search back through the BioExplorer list archives for his explanation of how he uses it (one of the best was actually a response to you).PeteFor others who are memory challenged I enclose the message Dr. Goldstein was kind enough to send explaining his design. From: " M. Goldstein" <davidmg@...> Date: Sun Feb 6, 2005 3:14 pm Subject: Re: [uNKNOWN]Re: [bioExplorer] New file uploaded to BioExplorerdavidmgpsych Dear and listmates,I don't think my reply to the email got through. So here goes again.The BE file is a general purpose training file. It is an attempt to emulatesome of the aspects of Dr. Val Brown's beuatiful NCP Comprehensive BoxesPortal.One can look at what is happening after the sensors are connectedappropriately to the person and make a decision about what to do.Some general points.Point 1: By changing the size of the box, for example by increasing thestandard deviation, one can make it less likely to see a color change. Bydecreasing the size of the box, one makes it more likely to see a colorchange. The percentage of time the person is within the box can by set inthis manner.Point 2: By changing the offset of the median within the box one canencourage increases or decreases in the amplitude of the signal.Please feel free to ask questions. I am just learning how to work with thisdesign.All the credit, but none of the fault, goes to Dr. Val Brown who describedhis novel way of doing NF.The many thresholds BE file can be used in some interesting ways.For example, I do NF training with the Electrocap. Instead of using theears, A1 or A2, one can use Cz as the reference. The active electrodes canbe placed on F3 and F4. One can look at how F3 and F4 differ from oneanother (with respect to Cz). In a depressed person , one expects to seecertain kinds of differences between F3 and F4. One can look at one actuallyhas and use the many thresholds BE design to encourage a more desireablepattern.Please feel free to ask any questions.And have fun playing with the BE file.Of course, when you are ready to apply it, you have to change the source tothe device you use.Sincerely yours, M. Goldstein, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 IT's available from Pete by subscription. On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Susy Schmid wrote: > > Where did you find thisdesign? I'm very interested in it but couldn't > find it on the bioexplorer files list. > Susy > > Goldring schrieb: > >> >> On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Van Deusen wrote: >> >>> , >>> >>> The Many Thresholds design is a design from Goldstein, >>> distributed with his permission, which is an attempt to recreate the >>> NeuroCare Pro approach to training down emerging variability. You >>> can search back through the BioExplorer list archives for his >>> explanation of how he uses it (one of the best was actually a >>> response to you). >>> >>> Pete >> >> For others who are memory challenged I enclose the message Dr. >> Goldstein was kind enough to send explaining his design. >> >> >> >> *From:* " M. Goldstein " <davidmg@...> >> *Date:* Sun Feb 6, 2005 3:14 pm >> *Subject:* Re: [uNKNOWN]Re: [bioExplorer] New file uploaded to >> BioExplorer >> >> davidmgpsych <davidmgpsych> >> >> >> >> Dear and listmates, >> >> I don't think my reply to the email got through. So here goes again. >> The BE file is a general purpose training file. It is an attempt to >> emulate >> some of the aspects of Dr. Val Brown's beuatiful NCP Comprehensive >> Boxes >> Portal. >> One can look at what is happening after the sensors are connected >> appropriately to the person and make a decision about what to do. >> Some general points. >> Point 1: By changing the size of the box, for example by >> increasing the >> standard deviation, one can make it less likely to see a color >> change. By >> decreasing the size of the box, one makes it more likely to see a >> color >> change. The percentage of time the person is within the box can by >> set in >> this manner. >> Point 2: By changing the offset of the median within the box one can >> encourage increases or decreases in the amplitude of the signal. >> Please feel free to ask questions. I am just learning how to work >> with >> this >> design. >> All the credit, but none of the fault, goes to Dr. Val Brown who >> described >> his novel way of doing NF. >> The many thresholds BE file can be used in some interesting ways. >> For example, I do NF training with the Electrocap. Instead of >> using the >> ears, A1 or A2, one can use Cz as the reference. The active >> electrodes can >> be placed on F3 and F4. One can look at how F3 and F4 differ from one >> another (with respect to Cz). In a depressed person , one expects >> to see >> certain kinds of differences between F3 and F4. One can look at one >> actually >> has and use the many thresholds BE design to encourage a more >> desireable >> pattern. >> Please feel free to ask any questions. >> And have fun playing with the BE file. >> Of course, when you are ready to apply it, you have to change the >> source to >> the device you use. >> Sincerely yours, >> >> M. Goldstein, Ph.D. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ! GROUPS LINKS >> >> * Visit your group " >> <> " on the web. >> >> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 This is a design from Goldstein, provided to us free of charge. I've uploaded it to the Files section of the list. You can find it there by going to and clicking on the Files section at the left of the homepage. You may be asked for your password to get there--that's the one you created when you set up your membership. The file is called Many Thresholds, and you should be able to download it into your Designs folder (usually on your C drive, Program Files folder, Bioexplorer folder, then Designs) and open it in BioExplorer. Please be aware that you will want to have a current version of the program, which you can download from Cyberevolution.com, in order for the design to work. Pete > > From: " Foxx " <foxx@...> > Date: 2006/02/03 Fri PM 09:24:07 EST > < > > Subject: RE: NCP Manythresholds > > Susy, > > The design is in our design subscription (currently 59 designs), for > sale on our website www.brain-trainer.com. Take the software link on the > left. > > Foxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 This is a design from Goldstein, provided to us free of charge. I've uploaded it to the Files section of the list. You can find it there by going to and clicking on the Files section at the left of the homepage. You may be asked for your password to get there--that's the one you created when you set up your membership. The file is called Many Thresholds, and you should be able to download it into your Designs folder (usually on your C drive, Program Files folder, Bioexplorer folder, then Designs) and open it in BioExplorer. Please be aware that you will want to have a current version of the program, which you can download from Cyberevolution.com, in order for the design to work. Pete > > From: " Foxx " <foxx@...> > Date: 2006/02/03 Fri PM 09:24:07 EST > < > > Subject: RE: NCP Manythresholds > > Susy, > > The design is in our design subscription (currently 59 designs), for > sale on our website www.brain-trainer.com. Take the software link on the > left. > > Foxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 This is a design from Goldstein, provided to us free of charge. I've uploaded it to the Files section of the list. You can find it there by going to and clicking on the Files section at the left of the homepage. You may be asked for your password to get there--that's the one you created when you set up your membership. The file is called Many Thresholds, and you should be able to download it into your Designs folder (usually on your C drive, Program Files folder, Bioexplorer folder, then Designs) and open it in BioExplorer. Please be aware that you will want to have a current version of the program, which you can download from Cyberevolution.com, in order for the design to work. Pete > > From: " Foxx " <foxx@...> > Date: 2006/02/03 Fri PM 09:24:07 EST > < > > Subject: RE: NCP Manythresholds > > Susy, > > The design is in our design subscription (currently 59 designs), for > sale on our website www.brain-trainer.com. Take the software link on the > left. > > Foxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Thank you very much for the link - now I can download it. I'm very interested in it because I also created some NCP designs and would like to compare them. Susy Van Deusen schrieb: >This is a design from Goldstein, provided to us free of charge. I've uploaded it to the Files section of the list. You can find it there by going to and clicking on the Files section at the left of the homepage. You may be asked for your password to get there--that's the one you created when you set up your membership. > >The file is called Many Thresholds, and you should be able to download it into your Designs folder (usually on your C drive, Program Files folder, Bioexplorer folder, then Designs) and open it in BioExplorer. Please be aware that you will want to have a current version of the program, which you can download from Cyberevolution.com, in order for the design to work. > >Pete > > > >>From: " Foxx " <foxx@...> >>Date: 2006/02/03 Fri PM 09:24:07 EST >>< > >>Subject: RE: NCP Manythresholds >> >>Susy, >> >>The design is in our design subscription (currently 59 designs), for >>sale on our website www.brain-trainer.com. Take the software link on the >>left. >> >>Foxx >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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