assessment patterns with excel file included

[Guest guest]

Today I sent questions re assessments patterns for a client and one member on the list suggested I send along the excel file. So below is a repeat of my prior email/questions with the excel file included. Hope this helps and a few might be willing to offer input.

Hi Listmates and Pete,

I recently took Pete's Training Practicum. After having spent hours going over a recent assessment and trying to apply Pete's template for what to look for and then which protocols to apply, I think I learned much to solidfy the learning. But, I would appreciate input to see if I am seeing the overall patterns and if some of my choices are in line with what has been taught so as to expand on my learning curve. So far, I find evaluating assessments similar to doing a Sudoku puzzle; you think ya have a sense of the patterns and then....Oh something else.

The client is a 63 year old female who presents with: sleep issues (for years) - falls asleep easily but awakens and cannot fall back asleep); fretful/worrisome thoughts; tinitus; difficulty staying focused/organized.

Her analyze page indicates: a. Hot temporals, b. Reversals L/R and F/B, c.Locking/Coherence (low coherence at SMR, alpha and theta, and high coherence SMR frontally), d. Filtering (low T/B ratios all sites EC/EO and task)) and e. Low alpha peak frequency all sites. As I look at the various pages (which I did first Pete) I have a few questions re interpretating some of the patterns and selecting appropriate trainings for them, considering her presenting issues.

1. How to interpret and coordinate the reversal issues. Train L/R reversals and then train F/B reversals or can I combine someway?

Re L/R reversals, the heads page shows

F3 alpha (19.20 or 22.4%) vs.F4 (18.51or 22.7%)

F3 beta (18.17 or 21.2%) vs.F4 (17.34 or 21.2%)

Fz alpha (24.87 or 23.7%); Fz beta (19.70 or 18.8%)

For protocols, one option might be F4/A2 1 C inhibit 12-38, R 9-12 EC. But what to do

with F3 alpha? Other suggestions?

Re F/B reversals, P3 alpha (31.15 or 28.4%) vs. P4 (44.37 or 35.5%)

P3 beta (19.55 or 17.8%) vs. P4 (18.97 or 15.2%)

Protocol options: P3/A1/g/P4/A2 linked alpha coherence design?

" " 2 C squish 15-38 inhibit?

3. Client has both low T/B ratios(every site) and high A/T ratios (all sites EO and task). Also, low alpha peak frequency. Having difficulty interpreting this information for a pattern and training protocols. Not sure if or how all interrelated. Possibly too little theta might be affecting these numbers. Is that possible and where would that show itself in terms of the pages? My thoughts:

A/T high ratios (EO and task) indicate poor alpha blocking. Protocol?

Train alpha peak frequency.

Not sure of how to train low T/B ratios.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

,

Took a quick look and have some questions.

Was there much 50 Hz or 60 Hz showing up during the assessment?

Does she have trauma/abuse in her history?

Rosemary

"assessment patterns" with excel file included

Today I sent questions re assessments patterns for a client and one member on the list suggested I send along the excel file. So below is a repeat of my prior email/questions with the excel file included. Hope this helps and a few might be willing to offer input.

Hi Listmates and Pete,

I recently took Pete's Training Practicum. After having spent hours going over a recent assessment and trying to apply Pete's template for what to look for and then which protocols to apply, I think I learned much to solidfy the learning. But, I would appreciate input to see if I am seeing the overall patterns and if some of my choices are in line with what has been taught so as to expand on my learning curve. So far, I find evaluating assessments similar to doing a Sudoku puzzle; you think ya have a sense of the patterns and then....Oh something else.

The client is a 63 year old female who presents with: sleep issues (for years) - falls asleep easily but awakens and cannot fall back asleep); fretful/worrisome thoughts; tinitus; difficulty staying focused/organized.

Her analyze page indicates: a. Hot temporals, b. Reversals L/R and F/B, c.Locking/Coherence (low coherence at SMR, alpha and theta, and high coherence SMR frontally), d. Filtering (low T/B ratios all sites EC/EO and task)) and e. Low alpha peak frequency all sites. As I look at the various pages (which I did first Pete) I have a few questions re interpretating some of the patterns and selecting appropriate trainings for them, considering her presenting issues.

1. How to interpret and coordinate the reversal issues. Train L/R reversals and then train F/B reversals or can I combine someway?

Re L/R reversals, the heads page shows

F3 alpha (19.20 or 22.4%) vs.F4 (18.51or 22.7%)

F3 beta (18.17 or 21.2%) vs.F4 (17.34 or 21.2%)

Fz alpha (24.87 or 23.7%); Fz beta (19.70 or 18.8%)

For protocols, one option might be F4/A2 1 C inhibit 12-38, R 9-12 EC. But what to do

with F3 alpha? Other suggestions?

Re F/B reversals, P3 alpha (31.15 or 28.4%) vs. P4 (44.37 or 35.5%)

P3 beta (19.55 or 17.8%) vs. P4 (18.97 or 15.2%)

Protocol options: P3/A1/g/P4/A2 linked alpha coherence design?

" " 2 C squish 15-38 inhibit?

3. Client has both low T/B ratios(every site) and high A/T ratios (all sites EO and task). Also, low alpha peak frequency. Having difficulty interpreting this information for a pattern and training protocols. Not sure if or how all interrelated. Possibly too little theta might be affecting these numbers. Is that possible and where would that show itself in terms of the pages? My thoughts:

A/T high ratios (EO and task) indicate poor alpha blocking. Protocol?

Train alpha peak frequency.

Not sure of how to train low T/B ratios.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Rosemary,

The client would consider herself having a childhood history of emotional/verbal abuse. She has gone through 2 divorces and her new daughter-in-law dying of breast cancer 5 years ago.

Re 50 or 60 Hz showing up during the assessment, I cannot say. More to learn. Her's was the first asssessment I artifacted solo after the Trainer's Practicum Workshop and I had to make some choices which I now wonder about considering the lack of high beta numbers on the artifacted pages. She can tend to tighten up during trainings and must be reminded to relax. But her style is anxious and fretful. So when going thru the artifact process, there were many very high numbers which I excluded. They looked like artifact, but.... Her non-artifacted assessment does indicate lots of high beta. F3-33.61,Fz -44.29, F4-32.18,T3-21.72,C3-40.19, C4-44.17, T4-23.55, P3-46.93, OZ-35.86, and P4-55.30.

[Guest guest]

Hi , remember, if the data is reliable, you need to consider train T4 down 15-38Hz or maybe all down to start from the main priority, in this case, which probably is a Tone pattern, especificly, disconection. I'll suggest you to consider the F/B reversal training after temporals training as the second priority. And looking at her main issues, almost all are related to these two categories (Disconection and Reversal), so focus in trying to minimize those issues and you will be in the right track. Good Luck!! JRlindamary8@... wrote: Rosemary, The client would consider herself having a childhood history of emotional/verbal abuse. She has

gone through 2 divorces and her new daughter-in-law dying of breast cancer 5 years ago. Re 50 or 60 Hz showing up during the assessment, I cannot say. More to learn. Her's was the first asssessment I artifacted solo after the Trainer's Practicum Workshop and I had to make some choices which I now wonder about considering the lack of high beta numbers on the artifacted pages. She can tend to tighten up during trainings and must be reminded to relax. But her style is anxious and fretful. So when going thru the artifact process, there were many very high numbers which I excluded. They looked like artifact, but.... Her non-artifacted assessment does indicate lots of high beta. F3-33.61,Fz -44.29, F4-32.18,T3-21.72,C3-40.19, C4-44.17, T4-23.55, P3-46.93, OZ-35.86, and P4-55.30.

Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

[Guest guest]

Rosemary and JR,

Thanks for your time and input. Still testing out protocols to determine training course. Have already tried a temporal squish which she responded to with neither positive nor negative reactions. Then I did an alpha coherence training with the client and she slept throught the night. (One of her biggest goals is to have improved sleep). I will check out the 50/60Hz.

[Guest guest]

,

Those numbers seem rather high. I suggest you run each 3 minute recording on Playback through the Assessment design and watch the 50 Hz and 60 Hz boxes and make notes of what you see. If you have the older TLC Assess Artifact report form you can draw them using that in BioExplorer and see which bands are going up to distinguish from things like alpha bursts versus artifact. If none of this applies you can feel more secure in your results.

Remember Pete's Rule #1

1. If you see something strange: always assume it is due to actions by you or the client not the brain. When in doubt, check it out.

Rosemary

Re: "assessment patterns" with excel file included

Rosemary,

The client would consider herself having a childhood history of emotional/verbal abuse. She has gone through 2 divorces and her new daughter-in-law dying of breast cancer 5 years ago.

Re 50 or 60 Hz showing up during the assessment, I cannot say. More to learn. Her's was the first asssessment I artifacted solo after the Trainer's Practicum Workshop and I had to make some choices which I now wonder about considering the lack of high beta numbers on the artifacted pages. She can tend to tighten up during trainings and must be reminded to relax. But her style is anxious and fretful. So when going thru the artifact process, there were many very high numbers which I excluded. They looked like artifact, but.... Her non-artifacted assessment does indicate lots of high beta. F3-33.61,Fz -44.29, F4-32.18,T3-21.72,C3-40.19, C4-44.17, T4-23.55, P3-46.93, OZ-35.86, and P4-55.30.

[Guest guest]

What are the high coherences? If you had some kind of field or muscle-bracing

artifact, the coherence values for beta and high-beta would be very high and the

amplitudes as well.

>

> From: " Rosemary Herron " <reherron@...>

> Date: 2006/02/21 Tue AM 11:23:42 EST

> < >

> Subject: Re: " assessment patterns " with excel file included

>

> ,

>

> Those numbers seem rather high. I suggest you run each 3 minute recording on

Playback through the Assessment design and watch the 50 Hz and 60 Hz boxes and

make notes of what you see. If you have the older TLC Assess Artifact report

form you can draw them using that in BioExplorer and see which bands are going

up to distinguish from things like alpha bursts versus artifact. If none of

this applies you can feel more secure in your results.

>

> Remember Pete's Rule #1

>

>

> 1. If you see something strange: always assume it is due to actions by you or

the client not the brain. When in doubt, check it out.

>

>

>

> Rosemary

> Re: " assessment patterns " with excel file included

>

>

> Rosemary,

>

> The client would consider herself having a childhood history of

emotional/verbal abuse. She has gone through 2 divorces and her new

daughter-in-law dying of breast cancer 5 years ago.

>

> Re 50 or 60 Hz showing up during the assessment, I cannot say. More to

learn. Her's was the first asssessment I artifacted solo after the Trainer's

Practicum Workshop and I had to make some choices which I now wonder about

considering the lack of high beta numbers on the artifacted pages. She can tend

to tighten up during trainings and must be reminded to relax. But her style is

anxious and fretful. So when going thru the artifact process, there were many

very high numbers which I excluded. They looked like artifact, but.... Her

non-artifacted assessment does indicate lots of high beta. F3-33.61,Fz -44.29,

F4-32.18,T3-21.72,C3-40.19, C4-44.17, T4-23.55, P3-46.93, OZ-35.86, and

P4-55.30.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey ==That's great! I hope you do more of the Alpha coherence training for her!

--Warmly, This email and any attachments may contain confidential information and it is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply email. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction or transmission of this email is strictly prohibited.

-------------- Original message -------------- From: lindamary8@...

Rosemary and JR,

Thanks for your time and input. Still testing out protocols to determine training course. Have already tried a temporal squish which she responded to with neither positive nor negative reactions. Then I did an alpha coherence training with the client and she slept throught the night. (One of her biggest goals is to have improved sleep). I will check out the 50/60Hz.

[Guest guest]

I ran the assessment thru the assessment design and changed the properties for the

[Guest guest]

Oops.. Sorry for the uncompleted email. Per your suggestion Rosemary I did run the client's assessment thru the assessment design and did not note any 50 or 60 Hz. Pete, please further explain your question re what are the high coherences. What is considered "high" and are you referring to the assessment before being artifacted?