Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: April 24, 2007 9:30 p.m. Eastern http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 By Bob Unruh © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to " treat " dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its " Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration " on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. " Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water, " the warning said. " It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins. " The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: a.. Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. b.. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as " medical devices. " c.. Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. d.. Weight machines will be regulated as " medical devices " and require FDA approval before being sold or used. e.. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. f.. Bottled water that " treats " dehydration will be regulated as a drug. g.. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, " Those are medical devices! " ) h.. Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA " review. " i.. Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for " practicing medicine without a license. " " This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements, " Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. " People better get on the horn about this. " The FDA's " draft guidance " on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of " complementary and alternative medicine " and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described " Health Ranger " Mike posted one of the alerts. " What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America, " he wrote. " There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers, " he said. " Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous - DEADLY, even - pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled . is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested. " As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. " This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S., " wrote. " When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game, " he said. " They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. " This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA, " he said. " Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices, " continued. " If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine. " " This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed, " he said. " Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny. " For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: " .if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health . [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment., the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug. " Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that " openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite. " According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the-counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, " The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage. " The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring " complementary and alternative medicine " since 1992. It also said " depending on the . therapy or practice, a product used . may be subject to regulation. " Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. " Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need, " he wrote. " Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements. " He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. " Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,' " he said. " Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs - with their myriad side effects - as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits, " wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. " The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach, " he said. " In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them. " WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. " The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits, " Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. " A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine, " Hammell said. " The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements. " He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. " The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide, " Hammell explained to WND. " But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease - it's not in their best interests that people be healthy. " Comments can be submitted in writing to: Division of Dockets Management (HFA-305), Food and Drug Administration, 5630 Fishers Lane, rm. 1061, Rockville, MD 20852. 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AM EOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. F This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctors Posted: April 24, 2007 9:30 p.m. Eastern By Bob Unruh -© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to " treat " dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its " Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration " on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. " Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water, " the warning said. " It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins. " (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as " medical devices. " Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as " medical devices " and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that " treats " dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, " Those are medical devices! " ) Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA " review. " Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for " practicing medicine without a license. " " This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements, " Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. " People better get on the horn about this. " The FDA's " draft guidance " on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of " complementary and alternative medicine " and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described " Health Ranger " Mike posted one of the alerts. " What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America, " he wrote. " There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers, " he said. " Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested. " As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. " This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S., " wrote. " When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game, " he said. " They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. " This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA, " he said. " Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices, " continued. " If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine. " " This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed, " he said. " Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny. " For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: " …if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug. " Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that " openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite. " According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the- counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, " The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage. " The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring " complementary and alternative medicine " since 1992. It also said " depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation. " Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. " Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need, " he wrote. " Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements… " He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. " Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,' " he said. " Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits, " wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. " The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach, " he said. " In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them… " WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. " The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits, " Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. " A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine, " Hammell said. " The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements. " He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. " The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide, " Hammell explained to WND. " But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy. " If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 My granny is going to cast a spell from heaven on these assholes. who the f & *k votes for them????? Or how do they get the position. It is time to over haulChap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AMEOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. FThis is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007LIFE WITH BIG BROTHERFeds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water!FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctorsPosted: April 24, 20079:30 p.m. EasternBy Bob Unruh-© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its "Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration" on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. "Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water," the warning said. "It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins." (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as "medical devices." Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as "medical devices" and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that "treats" dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, "Those are medical devices!") Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA "review." Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for "practicing medicine without a license.""This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements," Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. "People better get on the horn about this." The FDA's "draft guidance" on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of "complementary and alternative medicine" and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described "Health Ranger" Mike posted one of the alerts. "What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America," he wrote. "There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers," he said. "Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested." As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. "This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S.," wrote. "When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game," he said. "They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. "This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA," he said. "Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices," continued. "If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine." "This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed," he said. "Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny." For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: "…if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug." Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that "openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite." According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the-counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, "The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage." The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring "complementary and alternative medicine" since 1992. It also said "depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation." Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. "Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need," he wrote. "Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements…" He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. "Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,'" he said. "Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits," wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. "The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach," he said. "In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them…" WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. "The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits," Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. "A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine," Hammell said. "The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements." He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. "The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide," Hammell explained to WND. "But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy." If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.--------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. --------------------------------------------------------------------Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Me too. My homeopath's office manager just gave me a bottle from Lourdes.RoxChap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AM EOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. F This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctors Posted: April 24, 2007 9:30 p.m. Eastern By Bob Unruh -© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its "Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration" on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. "Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water," the warning said. "It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins." (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as "medical devices." Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as "medical devices" and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that "treats" dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, "Those are medical devices!") Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA "review." Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for "practicing medicine without a license." "This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements," Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. "People better get on the horn about this." The FDA's "draft guidance" on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of "complementary and alternative medicine" and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described "Health Ranger" Mike posted one of the alerts. "What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America," he wrote. "There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers," he said. "Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested." As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. "This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S.," wrote. "When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game," he said. "They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. "This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA," he said. "Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices," continued. "If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine." "This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed," he said. "Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny." For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: "…if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug." Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that "openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite." According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the- counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, "The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage." The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring "complementary and alternative medicine" since 1992. It also said "depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation." Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. "Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need," he wrote. "Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements…" He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. "Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,'" he said. "Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits," wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. "The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach," he said. "In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them…" WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. "The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits," Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. "A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine," Hammell said. "The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements." He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. "The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide," Hammell explained to WND. "But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy." If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I am truly starting to understand why people form cults and militias and hide away at camps and armed fortresses.... Can schizophrenia pop up in a 31 y/o??? Is it paranoia is its true? > Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of nancie f Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:44 PM EOHarm Subject: RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! My granny is going to cast a spell from heaven on these assholes. who the f & *k votes for them????? Or how do they get the position. It is time to over haul Chap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AM EOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. F This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctors Posted: April 24, 2007 9:30 p.m. Eastern By Bob Unruh -© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to " treat " dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its " Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration " on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. " Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water, " the warning said. " It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins. " (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as " medical devices. " Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as " medical devices " and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that " treats " dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, " Those are medical devices! " ) Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA " review. " Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for " practicing medicine without a license. " " This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements, " Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. " People better get on the horn about this. " The FDA's " draft guidance " on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of " complementary and alternative medicine " and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described " Health Ranger " Mike posted one of the alerts. " What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America, " he wrote. " There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers, " he said. " Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested. " As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. " This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S., " wrote. " When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game, " he said. " They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. " This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA, " he said. " Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices, " continued. " If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine. " " This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed, " he said. " Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny. " For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: " …if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug. " Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that " openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite. " According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the- counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, " The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage. " The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring " complementary and alternative medicine " since 1992. It also said " depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation. " Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. " Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need, " he wrote. " Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements… " He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. " Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,' " he said. " Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits, " wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. " The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach, " he said. " In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them… " WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. " The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits, " Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. " A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine, " Hammell said. " The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements. " He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. " The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide, " Hammell explained to WND. " But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy. " If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come outChap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of nancie fSent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:44 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! My granny is going to cast a spell from heaven on these assholes. who the f & *k votes for them????? Or how do they get the position. It is time to over haulChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AMEOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. FThis is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007LIFE WITH BIG BROTHERFeds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water!FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctorsPosted: April 24, 20079:30 p.m. EasternBy Bob Unruh-© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its "Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration" on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. "Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water," the warning said. "It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins." (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as "medical devices." Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as "medical devices" and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that "treats" dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, "Those are medical devices!") Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA "review." Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for "practicing medicine without a license.""This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements," Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. "People better get on the horn about this." The FDA's "draft guidance" on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of "complementary and alternative medicine" and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described "Health Ranger" Mike posted one of the alerts. "What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America," he wrote. "There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers," he said. "Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested." As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. "This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S.," wrote. "When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game," he said. "They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. "This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA," he said. "Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices," continued. "If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine." "This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed," he said. "Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny." For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: "…if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug." Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that "openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite." According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the-counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, "The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage." The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring "complementary and alternative medicine" since 1992. It also said "depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation." Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. "Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need," he wrote. "Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements…" He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. "Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,'" he said. "Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits," wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. "The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach," he said. "In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them…" WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. "The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits," Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. "A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine," Hammell said. "The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements." He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. "The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide," Hammell explained to WND. "But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy." If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.--------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. --------------------------------------------------------------------Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 The FDA is doing a poor job of controlling the safety surrounding our food supply - think e.coli/spinach and the grain killing our pets (and maybe even tainting human food now) from China. Couldn't we all contact our Congress(wo)men or Senators and request that they act on our behalf in this FDA supplement issue? Does anyone out there live in Ohio? I hear Congressman Kucinich is very active in environmental and other controversial topics (He filed articles of impeachment for Cheney yesterday! - House Resolution 333). I tried to email him, but it won't go through because I do not live in his state. Just wondering...Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of nancie fSent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:44 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! My granny is going to cast a spell from heaven on these assholes. who the f & *k votes for them????? Or how do they get the position. It is time to over haulChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AMEOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. FThis is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007LIFE WITH BIG BROTHERFeds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water!FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctorsPosted: April 24, 20079:30 p.m. EasternBy Bob Unruh-© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its "Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration" on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. "Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water," the warning said. "It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins." (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as "medical devices." Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as "medical devices" and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that "treats" dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, "Those are medical devices!") Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA "review." Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for "practicing medicine without a license.""This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements," Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. "People better get on the horn about this." The FDA's "draft guidance" on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of "complementary and alternative medicine" and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described "Health Ranger" Mike posted one of the alerts. "What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America," he wrote. "There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers," he said. "Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested." As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. "This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S.," wrote. "When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game," he said. "They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. "This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA," he said. "Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices," continued. "If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine." "This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed," he said. "Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny." For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: "…if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug." Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that "openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite." According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the-counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, "The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage." The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring "complementary and alternative medicine" since 1992. It also said "depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation." Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. "Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need," he wrote. "Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements…" He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. "Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,'" he said. "Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits," wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. "The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach," he said. "In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them…" WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. "The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits," Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. "A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine," Hammell said. "The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements." He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. "The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide," Hammell explained to WND. "But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy." If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.--------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. --------------------------------------------------------------------Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Bush is an asshole. But for the record. http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1999/aug99/99-08-25.html RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come outChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of nancie fSent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:44 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! My granny is going to cast a spell from heaven on these assholes. who the f & *k votes for them????? Or how do they get the position. It is time to over haulChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Regulating Holy Water?? This will get my Grandma all up in arms! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:43 AMEOHarm Subject: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water! This is getting really weird. FThis is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55370 Tuesday, April 24, 2007LIFE WITH BIG BROTHERFeds eye control of vitamins, supplements – even water!FDA looks to regulate natural substances as drugs, with prescriptions from doctorsPosted: April 24, 20079:30 p.m. EasternBy Bob Unruh-© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com FDA Commissioner von Echenbach The Food and Drug Administration says vitamins, supplements, herbs and other natural substances, including water when it is used to "treat" dehydration, should be classified as drugs, and opponents have only until April 30 to express their concern about the proposals under Docket No. 2006D-0480. The government agency under the direction of C. von Eschenbach, who became commissioner in 2006, also has put its "Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration" on a fast track for implementation. But parents' groups, natural remedy interests, food and herb businesses and others are horrified. A group called Gentle Christian Mothers alerted its constituency in no uncertain terms. "Please Read!!! The FDA is trying to regulate all things that are considered by them to be treatment for disease. They want to regulate vitamins, herbs, alternative therapies (things like hot stone therapy), even down to juices and holy water," the warning said. "It might mean having to go to a doctor or medical professional for vitamins." (Story continues below) The website noted that among likely developments if the FDA has its way: Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer. Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as "medical devices." Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Weight machines will be regulated as "medical devices" and require FDA approval before being sold or used. Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs. Bottled water that "treats" dehydration will be regulated as a drug. Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It's true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, "Those are medical devices!") Foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA "review." Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for "practicing medicine without a license.""This could be potentially devastating, not just to my business but to any business relating to supplements," Sophy Winnick, a Felton, Calif., mother of four who has been selling Youngevity products for 10 years, told the Santa Cruz Sentinel. "People better get on the horn about this." The FDA's "draft guidance" on the issue first appeared in December, but federal officials said it was printed in the Federal Register on Feb. 27, prompting the growing storm of protest. The FDA has reported that approximately one-third of all adult Americans have reported participating in or using some form of "complementary and alternative medicine" and officials estimate nutritional supplement sales total about $5 billion a year in America. On the NewsTarget website, self-described "Health Ranger" Mike posted one of the alerts. "What this means to consumers, according to the proposal as outlined in FDA Docket number 2006D-0480, is that things like vitamins and herbs would be controlled by the FDA, and could possibly require prescriptions from a naturopath, herbologist or some other physician, all of which would require you to pay a health insurance company and contribute to the already back-breaking cost of healthcare in America," he wrote. "There are those who do not trust the U.S. government to act in the interest of its citizens over the interests of pharmaceutical companies and health insurance providers," he said. "Those people have good reason to feel this way, and the amount of dangerous – DEADLY, even – pharmaceutical drugs that get recalled … is testament to the fact that human beings can be used as guinea pigs because the FDA allows the pharmaceutical industry to release drugs that haven't been properly tested." As WND recently reported, Merck and Co. had been donating to state legislators across the nation who in return were working to require young girls to be given Merck's $400 vaccine that prevents a virus that is spread only through sexual contact. WND also has reported on the mandatory anthrax shots for members of the military, even though they had not been fully tested, and the possibility that government officials also could order civilians to be vaccinated. "This [new] proposal would allow the FDA to control your access to 'alternatives' to the broken, profit-driven, corrupt pharmaceutical industry here in the U.S.," wrote. "When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA's end game," he said. "They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. "This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements 'legal' while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA," he said. "Under these proposed guidelines, FDA 'experts' (the same corrupt officials who re-approved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices," continued. "If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine." "This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed," he said. "Nothing else I've written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny." For example, he cited wording directly from the FDA plans: "…if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health … [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regiment…, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug." Keep in mind, he said, the FDA is the agency that "openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite." According to his website, suffered from degenerative disease, was nearly obese and diabetic by 30. He became a student of nutrition and natural therapies and gave up all pharmaceuticals, over-the-counter drugs, caffeine and pursued a natural foods diet with exercise. He lost 50 pounds, his diabetes symptoms vanished and his blood pressured reached 105/60, so he began a writing and teaching career on his own transformation. An essay by Wicke at Rocky Mountain Hi Herbal noted, "The unstated purpose of the FDA, and similar organizations in many other countries, is and always has been the protection of major pharmaceutical company profits. Expensive testing protocols act as a way to keep drugs and herbs within the control of the international cartels. While such tests may make sense for newly synthesized drugs with no track record in cultural tradition or popular usage, they are inappropriate for herb and food products, especially those with a long history of usage." The FDA, in its announcement, said the federal government has been investigating and monitoring "complementary and alternative medicine" since 1992. It also said "depending on the … therapy or practice, a product used … may be subject to regulation." Secondly, it noted, the law does not exempt alternative medicine products from regulation. Alan Stang, writing on etherzone.com, was a little more blunt. "Recently we wrote about the 72-year-old Florida grandmother whom the Food and Drug Administration Nazis are charging with a couple of felonies and some misdemeanors for helping cancer victims get the laetrile (Vitamin B-17) they need," he wrote. "Now here come these same offspring of unmarried female canines, with a scheme that may outlaw dietary supplements…" He said where such laws already have kicked in, Echinacea, which recharges the immune system, used to cost $14 a bottle, but now is $153. "Because they work, they have now become 'drugs,'" he said. "Not content to dominate the drug trade and send your prescription drugs into the $tratosphere, the Food & Drug Administration is now trying (yet again) to take over the entire health food and nutritional supplement industry so they can shut it down forever, leaving expensive FDA-approved drugs – with their myriad side effects – as your only option for treating anything from Alzheimer's to zits," wrote Jim Rutz, in a WND column. "The FDA hacks are pooh-poohing the significance of the new guidelines as toothless suggestions that merely 'clarify' and 'change nothing.' Yeah, right. In truth, they're following the classic procedure for passing outrageous laws that wouldn't have a chance without an incremental, camel-nose-under-the-tent approach," he said. "In reality, 2006D-0480 would eventually change everything, including your life expectancy. The FDA realizes that alternative medicine has far, far more solutions to chronic diseases than mainline medicine does ... and that panics them…" WND also has reported on an agreement by the FDA and the Federal Trade Commission to a Trilateral ation Charter with counterparts in Canada and Mexico under the auspices of NAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that will elevate the crackdown on public access to food supplements and vitamins. "The purpose is to make an end run around any domestic law that interferes with food and drug multi-national corporate profits," Hammell, a critic of the plan, told WND. Hammell is the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom, an advocacy group created to fight globalists' efforts to regulate alternative health treatments, including herbs, dietary supplements, and vitamins. "A key goal of the Trilateral ation Charter is to limit the public's access to food supplements and vitamins that are fundamental to many types of alternative medicine," Hammell said. "The Trilateral ation Charter is determined to attack the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 by moving to merge our food and drug regulations with those of Canada and Mexico, both of whom are far more restrictive on dietary supplements." He believes the agenda of the Trilateral ation Charter reflects a globalist desire to advance the interests of the large pharmaceutical companies by reining in the food supplements industry worldwide. He points to efforts such as the Codex Alimentarius Commission that was created in 1963 by the Food and Agricultural Organization and the World Health Organization, both official groups within the United Nations. "The Codex Alimentarius Commission claims that their main purpose is to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair trade practices in the food trade worldwide," Hammell explained to WND. "But the truth is that the Codex Alimentarius Commission is dominated by corporate multi-national interests that do not have as their primary concern the health interests of the people they claim they are in business to protect, not if that health interest is better served by alternative food supplements and alternative medicine. They have a business with disease – it's not in their best interests that people be healthy." If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.--------------------------------------------------------------------Are you a representative of the media who would like to interview the author of this story? Let us know. --------------------------------------------------------------------Special offers: SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines 'Vaccines: the risks, the benefits, the choices': Must-see DVD for parents on the fence about whether to vaccinate Reclaim your health! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Bob Unruh is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Yes, yes, I realize Clinton was far from perfect but back then I was also still drinking from “vaccines are curing” cool aide. Bush has had much more information since his presidency and his response is squash them, quiet them, arrest them and hold them without being told why, for anyone in dissent from his way of thinking (basically anything that effects big money). Burbaker, Nataf, Mady Hornig, etc. etc, have all been published DURING Bush’s presidency. I read somewhere is terms of autism and vaccines/mercury, that Clinton was asleep at the wheel, But Bush is driving the bus. I thought that was a great analogy. Sorry for the rant but the people he has put in place in the FDA, EPA, etc. etc. has been extremely harmful to our children. Asshole is an understatement. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of H Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:11 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! Bush is an asshole. But for the record. http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1999/aug99/99-08-25.html RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come out Chap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Exactly. Asleep at the wheel driving 90 miles an hour in a school zone. RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come outChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Is this a venting site or a vent and organize to do something for our kids site? Remember who has the power to send a bill to the presidents desk. The president doesn't appropriate funds either. I don't care if you think he is an asshole, but, as I see it, you are not focused on a area that will help these kids. The congress spends the money. What are you doing to change things? Can I help you? Do you really think the feds can regulate this stuff without backlash. They are a bunch of self absorbed egomaniacs concerned with retaining power. Their # 1 priority is getting reelected . The only way this bill will happen is if the people become complacent and continue to bitch, yet do nothing. Don't look to any presidential candidate to help us. Hillary will pander to it with her AS bill, but we all know she is as corrupt or more corrupt than Bush. We will succeed through collaboration,education, bipartisan efforts and passing multiple state bills. This bill will never pass in my ASD child's lifetime. > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > - > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check out new cars at Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 " Asshole is an understatement. " Yup, I pretty much hate the man on every level. " No Millionaire Left Behind' " is my favorite saying about the scum-bag. > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, > incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA > going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related > products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a > prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over > the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > - > > > > > _____ > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check out new > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm l;_ylc= > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > cars > at Autos. > > > > > _____ > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check out new > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm l;_ylc= > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > cars > at Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 If you hate Bush I can't imagine the intestinal fortitude with which you disdain Hillary. After all, she's the one who pushed all these thimerosal-containing vaccines on all these kids. If you look at the charts as vaccination rates went up so did autism. 1 in 10,000 became 1 in 166 thanks to essentially flawed Hillary Clinton policy. Do your homework here. Check out the facts. Thanks to Hillarycare kids who normally " slipped through the cracks " for whatever pertinent reasons their parents had to not vaccinate where basically busted and forced into compliance. Her policy of " just shut your mouth and vaccinate or you will go to jail " scared a lot of people into the Twilight Zone of mass vaccination. For all practical purposes Hillary Clinton is the mother of all autism. Nothing has prevented her from fessing up to her major role in mercury-poisoning our children. She drew strength from the fact that she had the power to ruin the lives of family after family. Hating Hillary is actually a great way to be a positive life-force for your vaccine-injured child. In a real way it's your kid first or Hillary. You can't have it both ways. > > > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, > inefficient, > > incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is > the FDA > > going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food > related > > products in this manner? How would they explain your having to > get a > > prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell > Tylenol over > > the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check out new > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > l;_ylc= > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > cars > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check out new > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > l;_ylc= > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > cars > > at Autos. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I HATE Bush period. With or without thimerosal damaged children, I DETEST that human being (if you can call him that). I hate what he has done to this country. He's worked over time to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. I hate that he pretends to be a religious man, that he ran away from fighting for the country he now pretends to lead. WIMP. I hate his hypocrital wife, and his partying daughters. I hate that his agenda is being followed to the death of American soldiers and civilians (to get oil and more money into his and his cronies greedy hands). I hate the way he perses his lips, and thinks he's cute. I hate his voice, and that he thinks he's funny. Most of all I hate that he is the president of our country. As far as Hillary, this information is new to me, but now that I am finding out more I need to continue to " do my homework " as you so nicely put it, before I decide to hate her or not. > > > > > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, > > inefficient, > > > incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > > > > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is > > the FDA > > > going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food > > related > > > products in this manner? How would they explain your having to > > get a > > > prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell > > Tylenol over > > > the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check out new > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > l;_ylc= > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > cars > > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check out new > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > l;_ylc= > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > cars > > > at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 We had his brother as our governor here in Florida for eight years. The Bush clan is notorious for their lack of sympathy and kindness. The Jeb Bush plan to cut our annually maintained 14,000 med-waivers waiting list, which by the way is composed of mostly autism-epidemic kids, was to establish an incredibly low-end salary qualifier which would instantly disqualify most on the waiting list. Quite a way of problem-solving, eh? Med-waivers in our state is on a first-come, first-serve basis. When autism went up the needs out-grew the funding. So basically we sit and wait until other autistic kids and their siblings receive all sorts of help. From scholarships to private schools for siblings of affected children, respite care, speech, one on one tutoring, to huggies and pull-ups. Everything is covered if you are fortunate enough to be on Med-waivers. People have told us to fake a nervous break-down to get moved up the list. We've had people slip us a piece of paper with apparently a " who to know " number scribbled on it. As certainly needy as we all are we find it objectionable that the state has done basically nothing to provide relief to ALL of our families. Early in 2004, I believe it was, as part of a team of parents working to provide data to the Florida state legislature which would be used to petition for more money of the Centers for Autism and Related Disorders I was assigned to investigate the C.A.R.D. Center in Tampa, Florida, which is the original location. Pretending to be an out-of-state person thinking of entering the state, I asked the Tampa facility what services to my child they had to offer. The reply was very naturally very honest and very sad. It seems when the C.A.R.D. was authorized by the state in the late 1980s the Tampa center had six specialists to cover their area of what's called a catchment. Then six specialists were enough help for the forty-seven families which they called clients within their catchment area. The autistic children at that time received individualized attention. The Tampa person then revealed that as of 2004 they still employed the same six specialists, but they were currently serving at that time over 1,700 families. This center only served children with ASD. They were so swamped with needy ASD children that they had to re- think how they went about the business of helping. They were no longer able to offer individualized attention to children, but had to rely on impersonal, mass seminars, lots of pamphlets, lots of free anti-psychotic drugs to obtain on medical referrals, and little or no human assistance or counseling. Calvin Trillin, the journalist and humorist, once made the observation that President Bush does have a sense of humor about things. He called it a " towel-snapping " sense of humor. I've seen the brother Jeb in public and he does have a most mischievous smirky look to him. > > > > > > > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, > > > inefficient, > > > > incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > > > > > > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world > is > > > the FDA > > > > going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food > > > related > > > > products in this manner? How would they explain your having > to > > > get a > > > > prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell > > > Tylenol over > > > > the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check out new > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > > l;_ylc= > > > > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > > cars > > > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check out new > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > > l;_ylc= > > > > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > > cars > > > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 My Dad, a retired chiropractor, told me the FDA has been trying to do this since the begining of time and it never passes. That doesn't mean it never will but its typically not a concern. > > > > > > > > > > Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, > > > > inefficient, > > > > > incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. > > > > > > > > > > This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the > world > > is > > > > the FDA > > > > > going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food > > > > related > > > > > products in this manner? How would they explain your having > > to > > > > get a > > > > > prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell > > > > Tylenol over > > > > > the counter? I don't see how any of this can fly. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check out new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > > > l;_ylc= > > > > > > > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > > > cars > > > > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check out new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http:/autos./new_cars.htm > > > > l;_ylc= > > > > > > > > > > > X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM- > > > > > cars > > > > > at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 The Clintons are WAY too intelligent to have ever been asleep at the wheel. Now, Bush is a different story. Whether he is still drinking/taking drugs, has early Alzeimers (sp), is mentally/developmentally affected in some way or is just plain toxic...there is something not quite right there. This administration is what it is...unless the impeachment process is successful. But, we all need to be really informed and wise in 2008! Chap 'n Ali <chapnalli@...> wrote: Yes, yes, I realize Clinton was far from perfect but back then I was also still drinking from “vaccines are curing” cool aide. Bush has had much more information since his presidency and his response is squash them, quiet them, arrest them and hold them without being told why, for anyone in dissent from his way of thinking (basically anything that effects big money). Burbaker, Nataf, Mady Hornig, etc. etc, have all been published DURING Bush’s presidency. I read somewhere is terms of autism and vaccines/mercury, that Clinton was asleep at the wheel, But Bush is driving the bus. I thought that was a great analogy. Sorry for the rant but the people he has put in place in the FDA, EPA, etc. etc. has been extremely harmful to our children. Asshole is an understatement. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of H Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:11 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! Bush is an asshole. But for the record. http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1999/aug99/99-08-25.html RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come outChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Bush is essentially over. But if Hillary becomes President... Kiss goodbye to any chance you have of having this issue considered forthrightly. She'll be talking about Chinese coal furnaces and PCB's and we're trying really hard, etc., etc. The Clintons are nothing if not capable of handling at least one more scandal- even if this one dwarf's all others. Think Autism Speaks is bad, wait to you see ol' Slick Willy "feel your pain" as they further corrupt the research. It will be breathtaking. And despite its obvious entertainment value, I perish the thought of such a result. RE: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I agree Ali, and to think the waste of tax payers $$$ when they could be reimbursing us back for vaccine harm. the truth will come outChap 'n Ali <chapnalliverizon (DOT) net> wrote: Appointed by Bush most likely. You know another corrupt, inefficient, incompetent, ignorant placement by our leader. This all sounds a little hokey to me though. How in the world is the FDA going to have the time or the man power to regulate all food related products in this manner? How would they explain your having to get a prescription for a vitamin like fish oil but allowed to sell Tylenol over the counter? I don’t see how any of this can fly. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I tend to think that if Obama or Clinton get on the democratic ticket... we'll lose the white house to the republicans for another four years. I really don't think this country is capable of electing either of these candidates. I don't think the conservative south will put either an african american or a woman into the white house. Am I crazy? I like Obama enough, i guess... but I'm afraid to vote for him in the primaries. And I hate clinton. If Obama gets on the ticket, THEN I'll vote for him. But I don't think my vote will count for much at that point. I think change is good. We need to undo some damage... and we can't do that with the party that is backing our failed president. > > Bush is essentially over. > > But if Hillary becomes President... > > Kiss goodbye to any chance you have of having this issue considered forthrightly. She'll be talking about Chinese coal furnaces and PCB's and we're trying really hard, etc., etc. > > The Clintons are nothing if not capable of handling at least one more scandal- even if this one dwarf's all others. Think Autism Speaks is bad, wait to you see ol' Slick Willy " feel your pain " as they further corrupt the research. It will be breathtaking. And despite its obvious entertainment value, I perish the thought of such a result. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 And that is why I am an girl –well, that and he is sooooo pretty And I enjoy watching Obama and Clinton go at each other, making each other look bad…. People will pick someone else and they will pick . From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Nanstiel Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:04 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I tend to think that if Obama or Clinton get on the democratic ticket... we'll lose the white house to the republicans for another four years. I really don't think this country is capable of electing either of these candidates. I don't think the conservative south will put either an african american or a woman into the white house. Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I love to listen to him talk - he is ok to look at...and the fact that he really is out there talking to "regular" people." M. Webster" <jenny@...> wrote: And that is why I am an girl –well, that and he is sooooo pretty And I enjoy watching Obama and Clinton go at each other, making each other look bad…. People will pick someone else and they will pick . From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of NanstielSent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:04 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! I tend to think that if Obama or Clinton get on the democratic ticket... we'll lose the white house to the republicans for another four years. I really don't think this country is capable of electing either of these candidates. I don't think the conservative south will put either an african american or a woman into the white house. Am I crazy? Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I am getting ill. Lets vote for him because he is a pretty boy politcian who is just like us because he owns the biggest house in NC and ran for VP. Charisma, symbolism and pretty hair may get ratings, but, doesn't hold a candle to substance. Yea, I want to vote for a guy for president who's a multi millionaire and his wife has terminal cancer. I can really respect those 100 weeks on the road while she withers away and they have children at home. My hero! What a guy! great priorities. Chuck Hagels mercury bill....he never signed onto it...too busy doing his hair to listen Your success and kids success will not be determined by politics in Washington. And that is why I am an girl –well, that and he is sooooo pretty > And I enjoy watching Obama and Clinton go at each other, making each other look bad …. People will pick someone else and they will pick . > > > --------------------------------- > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Nanstiel > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:04 PM > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! > > > I tend to think that if Obama or Clinton get on the democratic ticket... we'll lose the white > house to the republicans for another four years. I really don't think this country is capable > of electing either of these candidates. I don't think the conservative south will put either > an african american or a woman into the white house. Am I crazy? > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I remember hearing several women talk about how " cute " Bush was during the last campaign and it made me sick. They're not movie stars (ok I know Reagan and Arnold, and all that but you know what I mean). I think our president needs to be presentable but good looking is not a respectable criteria. We need someone who can lead (and by example would be even better). P And that is why I am an girl > –well, that and he is sooooo pretty > > And I enjoy watching Obama and Clinton go at each other, making each other look bad > …. People will pick someone else and they will pick . > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of > Nanstiel > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:04 PM > > EOHarm > > Subject: Re: Feds eye control of vitamins, supplements - even water! > > > > > > I tend to think that if Obama or Clinton get on the democratic ticket... we'll lose the > white > > house to the republicans for another four years. I really don't think this country is > capable > > of electing either of these candidates. I don't think the conservative south will put either > > an african american or a woman into the white house. Am I crazy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 It's hard to tell about Obama. He followed Frist around the Capitol like a loyal pup. Could be a strong ally of big Pharma and the doctor lobby. Dean would be president if he hadn't...er...well? Watch who the media pimps and resist their brain-washing. Nine times out of ten the media is acting out of their own self-interest. Their likely choice is the one that's not going to bust up the drug ring. There's no way that the networks are going to kick that habit. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27014 Ginsberg, chair of advertising agency Avrett Free & Ginsberg, said drug manufacturers' spending on network TV ads would continue to decline as they pursue more targeted approaches to advertising, such as the Internet, cable TV and direct mail (Schmidt, USA Today, 7/5). When Frist and pharma snapped their finger the most powerful man in the media flew to Washington and had no choice, but to push Frist's version of an autism bill, the version with no thimerosal and vaccine research. That's tells you how powerful big Pharma is. > > > > Bush is essentially over. > > > > But if Hillary becomes President... > > > > Kiss goodbye to any chance you have of having this issue considered forthrightly. She'll > be talking about Chinese coal furnaces and PCB's and we're trying really hard, etc., etc. > > > > The Clintons are nothing if not capable of handling at least one more scandal- even if > this one dwarf's all others. Think Autism Speaks is bad, wait to you see ol' Slick Willy " feel > your pain " as they further corrupt the research. It will be breathtaking. And despite its > obvious entertainment value, I perish the thought of such a result. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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