Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 The best text is by Dr. Cone on MSH. It is not light reading. In two new books we try to expand on Cone's material and some new studies on the 20 plus roles of MSH. Dr. Shoemaker was right that MSH (and VIP) are two powerful hormones to watch. That is not only him saying this, it is just he reads--plug either into PubMed and be prepared for a year of light reading. JS Re: [] Re: Potentially Life-Threatening Bloodstream Infection Hi Barb, I am assuming they would use MSH analogues (synthetic Alpha MSH). Here's an article from Pubmed. J Med Chem. 2003 Feb 27;46(5):850-5. Related Articles, Links Novel alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone peptide analogues with high candidacidal activity. Grieco P, Rossi C, Colombo G, Gatti S, Novellino E, Lipton JM, Catania A. Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry and Toxicology, University of Naples, 80131 Naples, Italy. alpha-Melanocyte stimulating hormone (alpha-MSH) is an endogenous linear tridecapeptide with potent antiinflammatory effects. We recently demonstrated that alpha-MSH and its C-terminal sequence Lys-Pro-Val (alpha-MSH (11-13)) have antimicrobial effects against two major and representative pathogens: Staphylococcus aureus and Candida albicans. In an attempt to improve the candidacidal activity of alpha-MSH and to better understand the peptide structure-antifungal activity relations, we designed and synthesized novel peptide analogues. Because previous data suggested that antimicrobial effects of alpha-MSH were receptor-mediated, we chose to focus on the sequence alpha-MSH (6-13), which contains the invariant core sequence His-Phe-Arg-Trp (6-9) that is important for binding to the known melanocortin receptors and also contains the sequence Lys-Pro-Val (11-13) that is known to be important for antimicrobial activity. In this structure-activity study, we discovered several compounds that have greater candidacidal activity than alpha-MSH. The peptide [d-Nal-7,Phe-12]-alpha-MSH (6-13) was the most potent of the analogues tested. The present results are very encouraging because they show the great potential of these peptides as a truly novel class of candidacidal compounds. barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: Hi Jay, I'm interested in your post but how would a doctor use Alpha Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone to treat Candida?? Perhaps you are just reporting what was said and don't know how they would, just asking just in case you do understand. barb > > Alpha MSH is Alpha Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. > > I agree with what you say on systemic candida. > > Jay > FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 From: jschaller Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: [] MSH/VIP education source The best text is by Dr. Cone on MSH. It is not light reading. * Would you please provide the full name of Dr Cone and/or the title of the book. Thanks. In two new books we try to expand on Cone's material and some new studies on the 20 plus roles of MSH. * Are these books available now? If so, would you please provide the titles and authors? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Can anyone tell me What VIP is? I know that mine is abnormal (and not improving) but I am not sure what it is, or what it does. Thanks. --- In , " Bjerring " <jamesbj@...> wrote: > > From: jschaller > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:03 PM > Subject: [] MSH/VIP education source > > > The best text is by Dr. Cone on MSH. It is not light reading. > * Would you please provide the full name of Dr Cone and/or the title of the book. Thanks. > > In two new books we try to expand on Cone's material and some new studies on the 20 plus roles of MSH. > > * Are these books available now? If so, would you please provide the titles and authors? Thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Here is some research I've done on VIP. Mine is very low also, along with MSH. I hope this helps. Kathy http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/gi/vip.html VIP is a 28-amino acid peptide structurally related to secretin. It was originally isolated from intestinal extracts and shown to be a potent vasodilator. Subsequent work demonstrated that VIP is very widely distributed in the peripheral and central nervous systems, and probably should not be considered a true GI hormone. A huge number of biological effects have been attributed to VIP. With respect to the digestive system, VIP seems to induce smooth muscle relaxation (lower esophageal sphincter, stomach, gallbladder), stimulate secretion of water into pancreatic juice and bile, and cause inhibition of gastric acid secretion and absorption from the intestinal lumen. Certain tumors arising from the pancreatic islets or nervous tissue (called VIPomas) secrete excessive quantities of VIP, and are associated with chronic, watery diarrhea. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -------- http://www.medhelp.org/glossary/new/gls_4350.htm VASOACTIVE INTESTINAL PEPTIDE - is found in highest concentration in the nervous system and gut. or VIP, may be a type of or neuromodulator. VIP increases the and water secretion from the pancreas and intestines. It also increases the release of hormones from the pancreas, gut, and hypothalamus. VIP stimulates the breakdown of fat and glycogen; stimulates bile flow, and inhibits gastrin and gastric acid secretion. Greater than normal values of VIP in the bloodstream can indicate a VIP-secreting tumor --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------------------------ http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/56/2/249 Abstract First identified by Said and Mutt some 30 years ago, the vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) was originally isolated as a vasodilator peptide. Subsequently, its biochemistry was elucidated, and within the 1st decade, their signature features as a neuropeptide became consolidated. It did not take long for these insights to permeate the field of immunology, out of which surprising new attributes for VIP were found in the last years. VIP is rapidly transforming into something more than a mere hormone. In evolving scientifically from a hormone to a novel agent for modifying immune function and possibly a cytokine-like molecule, VIP research has engaged many physiologists, molecular biologists, biochemists, endocrinologists, and pharmacologists and it is a paradigm to explore mutual interactions between neural and neuroendocrine links in health and disease. The aim of this review is firstly to update our knowledge of the cellular and molecular events relevant to VIP function on the immune system and secondly to gather together recent data that support its role as a type 2 cytokine. Recognition of the central functions VIP plays in cellular processes is focusing our attention on this " very important peptide " as exciting new candidates for therapeutic intervention and drug development. -I. Introduction Optimal host defense is the result of interactions between the two systems implicated in homeostasis: the neuroendocrine and immune systems. For many years, the neuroendocrine system and the immune system have been viewed as being two autonomous networks functioning to maintain a balance between host and environment. The neuroendocrine system responds to external stimuli such as temperature, pain, and stress, whereas the immune system responds to exposure to bacteria, viruses, and trauma. Within the last 30 years, a direct link between the functions of these two systems has been pointed out by evidence presented in four distinct areas: 1) psychoneuroimmunology, the interaction between stress, behavior, and immune responses to diseases; 2) immunopsychiatry, abnormalities of the immune system that may be associated with mental illness; 3) immunoneurology, the actions of secreted immune factors and immunologically competent cells on the central nervous system (CNS1); and 4) neuroimmunomodulation, the effects of the CNS on immune function (for review, see Weigent and Blalock, 1987 moldcankill <moldcankill@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me What VIP is? I know that mine is abnormal (and not improving) but I am not sure what it is, or what it does. Thanks. --- In , " Bjerring " <jamesbj@...> wrote: > > From: jschaller > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:03 PM > Subject: [] MSH/VIP education source > > > The best text is by Dr. Cone on MSH. It is not light reading. > * Would you please provide the full name of Dr Cone and/or the title of the book. Thanks. > > In two new books we try to expand on Cone's material and some new studies on the 20 plus roles of MSH. > > * Are these books available now? If so, would you please provide the titles and authors? Thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Does anyone know if any dietary supplements or US-available, affordable prescription drugs can improve synthesis of MSH or VIP? I am taking cholestyramine and I live in a very moldy building and its proving very difficult to deal with the situation.. My wife and I are struggling to move out of my moldy home (don't know where we are moving to yet, but we do have to go, as the mold is getting worse rapidly, our basement is flooded and there is no escape from the mold anymore...it seems, all our management strategies are not working like they would need to..) and the big problem is overwhelming nausea and fatigue when we stir it up.. but I have to pack...and clean.. (how do you clean things when you can't get away from the mold.. anywhere?) I am taking CSM, four times a day (and it is helping, especially when I am successful in not stirring up mold.. but the problem is that I HAVE to pack and with so much of our stuff covered with mold dust, the problem is that I get sick almost immediately..) The LL pretends not to understand containment or the need to clean - it may be intentional, they want to terrify us, and its working.. we are scared.. Even though we have not figured out where to move to we need to get packed up and get out of here, but its taking FOREVER because I get ill and my wife works full time and she's exhausted when she gets home, so it falls on me. And as I typed this.. I just felt a little earthquake.. I DON'T want to be here in one of those.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 -Thank you for this, I have allways suspected that my mold exposure had something to do with loosing my gall bladder- after reading this-I believe it must have- no one else on either side of my family ever had gall bladder problems. recovering in Fl for 5 weeks after my operation- which nearly killed me- I resolved alot of my symptoms- like migraines-- which started up after being home a month- I said to my nuero- that I thought my headaches were from a bad gall bladder and I was surprised that they started up again--now if he had been on the ball- he might have suspected mold illness, and given me a VCS test then- I have been meaning to write him a letter explaining how he missed the diagnosis- since then I heard that his brother had mold illness- and a friend of mine he recommended seeing Dr Shoe-so hopefully in the future people won't have to suffer 14 years , Kathy <kathywnb@...> wrote: > > Here is some research I've done on VIP. Mine is very low also, along with MSH. > I hope this helps. > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dr Shoe recommends lots of fish body oil to raise VIP_ > > Does anyone know if any dietary supplements or US-available, > affordable prescription drugs can improve synthesis of MSH or VIP? > > I am taking cholestyramine and I live in a very moldy building and its > proving very difficult to deal with the situation.. My wife and I are > struggling to move out of my moldy home (don't know where we are > moving to yet, but we do have to go, as the mold is getting worse > rapidly, our basement is flooded and there is no escape from the mold > anymore...it seems, all our management strategies are not working like > they would need to..) and the big problem is overwhelming nausea and > fatigue when we stir it up.. but I have to pack...and clean.. (how do > you clean things when you can't get away from the mold.. anywhere?) > > I am taking CSM, four times a day (and it is helping, especially when > I am successful in not stirring up mold.. but the problem is that I > HAVE to pack and with so much of our stuff covered with mold dust, the > problem is that I get sick almost immediately..) > > The LL pretends not to understand containment or the need to clean - > it may be intentional, they want to terrify us, and its working.. we > are scared.. Even though we have not figured out where to move to we > need to get packed up and get out of here, but its taking FOREVER > because I get ill and my wife works full time and she's exhausted when > she gets home, so it falls on me. > > And as I typed this.. I just felt a little earthquake.. I DON'T want > to be here in one of those.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 >>>Dr Shoe recommends lots of fish body oil to raise VIP_ > > Does anyone know if any dietary supplements or US-available, > affordable prescription drugs can improve synthesis of MSH or VIP?>> Take a look at: http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/moldandbiotoxins/moldandnutritionalt reatments.html Dr. Schaller's website is extraordinary for those of you who haven't visited. He has a searchable data base, just type in what you are looking for and click on the links. I'm learning so much from his generous web site; could spend days reading and never finish. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 hope this helps, if you can stand the smell of ammonia, mix half and half in a spray bottle and spray down the air in your home. it doesn't kill mold, but nutralizes it temperarily, also wash your cloths, blankets exc. with it. do not mix with bleach. and you can wipe down some belongings. anything that is not washable, throw away or put in air tight containers. try not to take the mold with you, or it well still make you sick. throw away your bed mattresses. wash your pillows. I did have a antique chase lounge that I refused to part with, I left it out in the sunshine, put on my mask and beated the crap out of it with a broom(good therepy,lol) it seamed to have worked. > > Dr Shoe recommends lots of fish body oil to raise VIP_ > > > > Does anyone know if any dietary supplements or US-available, > > affordable prescription drugs can improve synthesis of MSH or VIP? > > > > I am taking cholestyramine and I live in a very moldy building and > its > > proving very difficult to deal with the situation.. My wife and I > are > > struggling to move out of my moldy home (don't know where we are > > moving to yet, but we do have to go, as the mold is getting worse > > rapidly, our basement is flooded and there is no escape from the > mold > > anymore...it seems, all our management strategies are not working > like > > they would need to..) and the big problem is overwhelming nausea > and > > fatigue when we stir it up.. but I have to pack...and clean.. (how > do > > you clean things when you can't get away from the mold.. anywhere?) > > > > I am taking CSM, four times a day (and it is helping, especially > when > > I am successful in not stirring up mold.. but the problem is that I > > HAVE to pack and with so much of our stuff covered with mold dust, > the > > problem is that I get sick almost immediately..) > > > > The LL pretends not to understand containment or the need to > clean - > > it may be intentional, they want to terrify us, and its working.. > we > > are scared.. Even though we have not figured out where to move to > we > > need to get packed up and get out of here, but its taking FOREVER > > because I get ill and my wife works full time and she's exhausted > when > > she gets home, so it falls on me. > > > > And as I typed this.. I just felt a little earthquake.. I DON'T > want > > to be here in one of those.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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