Re: 7-HMR Lignans from Norwegian spruce trees

[Guest guest]

Meant to include this link to a similar 10mg version:

http://www.supersmart.com/article.pl?id=0403 & lang=en

It has a " better " writeup on it.

--

Gaston

--- Gaston <sp1d3rc1d3r-ghlongevity@...> wrote:

> You guys seem to be up on your supplements... What do

> you think of increasing enterolactone via one 40mg

> pill:

>

>

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=\

10001 & langId=-1 & catalogId=10051 & SourceCode=INT999 & productId=17882 & R=13947 & health\

ConcernDropBox=null & Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial & Ntt=spruce & keyword=spruce & N=42949\

67189 & brandDropBox=null & productDropBox=null & Ntk=Level1

>

> Instead of SDG lignans.

>

> --

> Gaston

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

<http://www.hmrlignan.com/>This is an interesting supplement because

it has multiple uses and because of its high

bioavailability. Enterolactones are good

<http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jafcau/2001/49/i07/abs/jf010038a.html>\

precursors

to human lignans. Often, I've seen the HMRlignans directly in

supplements that are from flax and are sometimes used in hair loss

products - it would be interesting if this also helped in this

area. I don't think enterolactones in general have been tried for

this but with this one's unique properties, it makes me wonder if it

would be. Flax has both SDG lignans and HMRlignans.

For women serum enterolactone level has been significantly inversely

associated with risk of breast cancer and for men it significantly

improves prostate health. It is powerful for cardiac health, it is

anticancer and helps with all the post menopausal ailments that women

get. Of course it is a powerful antioxidant and also promotes growth

of a number of tissues. It should be much better than flax and other

grain and tea sources of enterolactone with this high level of

bioavailability and might be a better antioxidant than pycnogenol

(also from a conifer) for the same reason.

I have not tried this particular source but based on what I know, I

would recommend it. Also, my experience with Swanson products has

been very good so far and I'm impressed with the research that they

have been doing and their fair prices with high quality.

At 08:18 PM 9/4/2006, you wrote:

>You guys seem to be up on your supplements... What do

>you think of increasing enterolactone via one 40mg

>pill:

>

><http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeI\

d=10001 & langId=-1 & catalogId=10051 & SourceCode=INT999 & productId=17882 & R=13947 & heal\

thConcernDropBox=null & Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial & Ntt=spruce & keyword=spruce & N=429\

4967189 & brandDropBox=null & productDropBox=null & Ntk=Level1>http://www.swansonvitam\

ins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001 & langId=-1 & catalog\

Id=10051 & SourceCode=INT999 & productId=17882 & R=13947 & healthConcernDropBox=null & Ntx\

=mode%2Bmatchallpartial & Ntt=spruce & keyword=spruce & N=4294967189 & brandDropBox=null\

& productDropBox=null & Ntk=Level1

>

>Instead of SDG lignans.

>

>--

>Gaston

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Brown <scotflyr@...> wrote:

>... Often, I've seen the HMRlignans

> directly in

> supplements that are from flax and are sometimes used

> in hair loss

> products - it would be interesting if this also

> helped in this

> area.

I replaced about 6 SDG lignans pills in my hairloss

regime with it.

> I have not tried this particular source but based on

> what I know, I

> would recommend it. Also, my experience with Swanson

> products has

> been very good so far and I'm impressed with the

> research that they

> have been doing and their fair prices with high

> quality.

>

I have been using it for about 2 weeks. Most of

swansons stuff is great, but there have been a few

instances in the past where they have been

questionable... but I'm sure that is true with all of

them to some extend. My other online " regular "

supplements suppliers are vitacost and evitamin.

Did you see where Swanson is now selling YTE:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SHPHtmlPageView2;jsessi\

onid=0000_xUzmgZU7djimrnZQncbQFq:-1?storeId=10001 & langId=-1 & catalogId=10051 & html\

Include=../lnd/YouthTissueExtract

Another interesting observation is that going to

http://www.swansonvitamins.com with IE7 RC1 does not

reditect to their store front lke with other browsers.

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Thanks for the info. I have seen this before but this time I read

the interview etc. I just ordered some of both items. YTE really

looks impressive. I'll let you know what I think.

PS:

I use Firefox and Opera. I don't have IE7 because of the requirement

for SP-2 which is still incompatible with some of my

software. Redirection characteristics are likely in the browser

settings in the new IE, as redirection can be used for malicious intent.

At 10:20 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

>--- Brown <<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>scotflyr@...> wrote:

>

> >... Often, I've seen the HMRlignans

> > directly in

> > supplements that are from flax and are sometimes used

> > in hair loss

> > products - it would be interesting if this also

> > helped in this

> > area.

>

>I replaced about 6 SDG lignans pills in my hairloss

>regime with it.

>

> > I have not tried this particular source but based on

> > what I know, I

> > would recommend it. Also, my experience with Swanson

> > products has

> > been very good so far and I'm impressed with the

> > research that they

> > have been doing and their fair prices with high

> > quality.

> >

>

>I have been using it for about 2 weeks. Most of

>swansons stuff is great, but there have been a few

>instances in the past where they have been

>questionable... but I'm sure that is true with all of

>them to some extend. My other online " regular "

>supplements suppliers are vitacost and evitamin.

>

>Did you see where Swanson is now selling YTE:

><http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SHPHtmlPageView2;jses\

sionid=0000_xUzmgZU7djimrnZQncbQFq:-1?storeId=10001 & langId=-1 & catalogId=10051 & ht\

mlInclude=../lnd/YouthTissueExtract>http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/st\

ores/servlet/SHPHtmlPageView2;jsessionid=0000_xUzmgZU7djimrnZQncbQFq:-1?storeId=\

10001 & langId=-1 & catalogId=10051 & htmlInclude=../lnd/YouthTissueExtract

>

>Another interesting observation is that going to

><http://www.swansonvitamins.com>http://www.swansonvitamins.com with

>IE7 RC1 does not

>reditect to their store front lke with other browsers.

>

[Guest guest]

--- Brown <scotflyr@...> wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Thanks for the info. I have seen this before but

> this time I read

> the interview etc. I just ordered some of both

> items. YTE really

> looks impressive. I'll let you know what I think.

>

Cool. I just ordered YTE too... for the curiosity

factor.

> I use Firefox and Opera. I don't have IE7 because of

> the requirement

> for SP-2 which is still incompatible with some of my

> software. Redirection characteristics are likely in

> the browser

> settings in the new IE, as redirection can be used

> for malicious intent.

Between my regular laptop, the dev laptop, and dev

tower here at the house (on vaction this week) which I

switch between via KVM switch while docked (too raining

here to go outdoors) and the various virtual sessions

running on them, I probably have ever browser you can

think of. On the Windows platform I am partial to

SeaMonkey/Firefox. But I am doing a little

compatibility testing now that IE7 has an RC.

--

Gaston

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Did you see the sexual energy chart? It goes up 7X in 3 weeks with

YTE! How did they measure that? Certainly not with a ruler! =-O

The other charts and the testimonials and interviews are all very

interesting. I wonder how many eggs they have to incubate to make a

bottle of YTE? Poor embryonic chickens.... I wonder if they harvest

them before the chicken soul comes in?

With the extensions available to Firefox, you can make it do most of

what you want. IE doesn't run on my Linux, Mac or Solaris machines,

at least easily and especially IE7. I like the way Opera deals with

multiple tab sessions, but there is an extension or couple of

extensions for Firefox that more than add that same capability. In

addition, Opera and Netscape and some of the lesser known browsers -

I've tried many of them - tend to crash. Keep your eyes peeled,

there is a new browser about to be announced from a stealth firm in

Silicon Valley that is supposed to blow everybody away. Firefox is

the the most stable cross-platform browser today, bar none.

At 01:32 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

>--- Brown <<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>scotflyr@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > Thanks for the info. I have seen this before but

> > this time I read

> > the interview etc. I just ordered some of both

> > items. YTE really

> > looks impressive. I'll let you know what I think.

> >

>

>Cool. I just ordered YTE too... for the curiosity

>factor.

>

> > I use Firefox and Opera. I don't have IE7 because of

> > the requirement

> > for SP-2 which is still incompatible with some of my

> > software. Redirection characteristics are likely in

> > the browser

> > settings in the new IE, as redirection can be used

> > for malicious intent.

>

>Between my regular laptop, the dev laptop, and dev

>tower here at the house (on vaction this week) which I

>switch between via KVM switch while docked (too raining

>here to go outdoors) and the various virtual sessions

>running on them, I probably have ever browser you can

>think of. On the Windows platform I am partial to

>SeaMonkey/Firefox. But I am doing a little

>compatibility testing now that IE7 has an RC.

>

>--

>Gaston

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Brown <scotflyr@...> wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Did you see the sexual energy chart? It goes up 7X

> in 3 weeks with

> YTE! How did they measure that? Certainly not with

> a ruler! =-O

Yeah I'm not touching that one. Hahaha. Finasteride and

various other limbido deflating substances have yet to

make a dent in that department... My wife would move

out if the ol drive went up 7x. :-)

> The other charts and the testimonials and interviews

> are all very

> interesting. I wonder how many eggs they have to

> incubate to make a

> bottle of YTE? Poor embryonic chickens.... I wonder

> if they harvest

> them before the chicken soul comes in?

Yeah the process of creating this product could open up

a slew of issues.

> With the extensions available to Firefox, you can

> make it do most of

> what you want. IE doesn't run on my Linux, Mac or

> Solaris machines,

> at least easily and especially IE7. I like the way

> Opera deals with

> multiple tab sessions, but there is an extension or

> couple of

> extensions for Firefox that more than add that same

> capability. In

> addition, Opera and Netscape and some of the lesser

> known browsers -

> I've tried many of them - tend to crash. Keep your

> eyes peeled,

> there is a new browser about to be announced from a

> stealth firm in

> Silicon Valley that is supposed to blow everybody

> away. Firefox is

> the the most stable cross-platform browser today, bar

> none.

>

Yeah we have to check them all out... even the more

specialized ones like Flock or more 'secure' ones like

Browzar (uses IE engine).

But the company that signs my paycheck has standrdized

on IE, so IE it is for most things here. But Firefox

and the SeaMonkey suite are close runner ups in usage

for me. Is the new one you are referring to based on

Gecko 1.9 or is this something totally different?

--

Gaston

[Guest guest]

--- Gaston <sp1d3rc1d3r-ghlongevity@...> wrote:

>...

> Another interesting observation is that going to

> http://www.swansonvitamins.com with IE7 RC1 does not

> reditect to their store front lke with other

> browsers.

I emailed Swanson this morning with an FYI and it looks

like it works correctly with IE7 RC1 now. wget shows

the receiving a '301 Moved Permanently' now.

--

Gaston

[Guest guest]

Hi

I don't know that they're using any existing code base, whether

Mozilla/Gecko/Seamonkey or IE etc. It will be tabbed, so it isn't

Browzar. I can't use an untabbed browser anymore. I believe it is

new technology. Did you ever see the Neoplanet browser? It was pretty cool.

At 02:52 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

>--- Brown <<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>scotflyr@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > Did you see the sexual energy chart? It goes up 7X

> > in 3 weeks with

> > YTE! How did they measure that? Certainly not with

> > a ruler! =-O

>

>Yeah I'm not touching that one. Hahaha. Finasteride and

>various other limbido deflating substances have yet to

>make a dent in that department... My wife would move

>out if the ol drive went up 7x. :-)

>

> > The other charts and the testimonials and interviews

> > are all very

> > interesting. I wonder how many eggs they have to

> > incubate to make a

> > bottle of YTE? Poor embryonic chickens.... I wonder

> > if they harvest

> > them before the chicken soul comes in?

>

>Yeah the process of creating this product could open up

>a slew of issues.

>

> > With the extensions available to Firefox, you can

> > make it do most of

> > what you want. IE doesn't run on my Linux, Mac or

> > Solaris machines,

> > at least easily and especially IE7. I like the way

> > Opera deals with

> > multiple tab sessions, but there is an extension or

> > couple of

> > extensions for Firefox that more than add that same

> > capability. In

> > addition, Opera and Netscape and some of the lesser

> > known browsers -

> > I've tried many of them - tend to crash. Keep your

> > eyes peeled,

> > there is a new browser about to be announced from a

> > stealth firm in

> > Silicon Valley that is supposed to blow everybody

> > away. Firefox is

> > the the most stable cross-platform browser today, bar

> > none.

> >

>

>Yeah we have to check them all out... even the more

>specialized ones like Flock or more 'secure' ones like

>Browzar (uses IE engine).

>

>But the company that signs my paycheck has standrdized

>on IE, so IE it is for most things here. But Firefox

>and the SeaMonkey suite are close runner ups in usage

>for me. Is the new one you are referring to based on

>Gecko 1.9 or is this something totally different?

>

>--

>Gaston

>

>