Re: Rife's Inventions & Movie; was: 714-X Cancer Treatment

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim:

Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the least.

I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

(or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

additional evidence.

If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

Thanks again, Jim.

At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

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>Jim

>

>Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi Jim:

> >

> > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >:

> > >

> > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has seen it

> > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife was a

> > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who searched

> > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer considered.

> > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three years) for

> > >practicing with his technology.

> > >

> > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table based on

> > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes often

> > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page report

> > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree that we

> > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference between

> > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical community will

> > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their work on

> > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > >total loss in my opinion.

> > >

> > >Regards, Jim

> > >

> > >Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Jim:

> > > >

> > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily created

> > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not one or

> > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was done with

> > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has efficacy.

> > > >

> > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably in its

> > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive cure

> > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that " seems "

> > > > like it might work.

> > > >

> > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually seen

> > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar results. Can

> > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >:

> > > > >

> > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > that he

> > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > He also

> > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer. Then he

> > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that this does

> > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job in his

> > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is off the

> > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening with

> > drugs

> > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > years is

> > > > >not a cure..

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through resonance

> > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > unless I

> > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations sounds

> > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > ever been

> > > > > > able to

> > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of cancer who

> > > > used the

> > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

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> > > > stated

> > > > > > > > and fairly unbiased. Does anyone know anything about 714X?

> > I found

> > > > > > > > some glowing testimonials about it but also some reports that

> > > > Gaston

> > > > > > > > is insane. How would I know who's right? You can purchase the

> > > > > > > > injectable from the web site for

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> > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly kills all

> > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune system

> > to work

> > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > that is

> > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > that they

> > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device or 714X

> > > > without

> > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF good

> > and all

> > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially dangerous, it

> > is how

> > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > stuff and

> > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of keeping

> > > > for a

> > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > of the

> > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim:

Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the least.

I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

(or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

additional evidence.

If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

Thanks again, Jim.

At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

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>Jim

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>Brown wrote:

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> > Hi Jim:

> >

> > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >:

> > >

> > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has seen it

> > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife was a

> > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who searched

> > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer considered.

> > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three years) for

> > >practicing with his technology.

> > >

> > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table based on

> > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes often

> > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page report

> > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree that we

> > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference between

> > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical community will

> > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their work on

> > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > >total loss in my opinion.

> > >

> > >Regards, Jim

> > >

> > >Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Jim:

> > > >

> > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily created

> > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not one or

> > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was done with

> > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has efficacy.

> > > >

> > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably in its

> > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive cure

> > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that " seems "

> > > > like it might work.

> > > >

> > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually seen

> > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar results. Can

> > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >:

> > > > >

> > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > that he

> > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > He also

> > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer. Then he

> > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that this does

> > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job in his

> > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is off the

> > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening with

> > drugs

> > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > years is

> > > > >not a cure..

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through resonance

> > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > unless I

> > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations sounds

> > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > ever been

> > > > > > able to

> > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of cancer who

> > > > used the

> > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

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> > > > stated

> > > > > > > > and fairly unbiased. Does anyone know anything about 714X?

> > I found

> > > > > > > > some glowing testimonials about it but also some reports that

> > > > Gaston

> > > > > > > > is insane. How would I know who's right? You can purchase the

> > > > > > > > injectable from the web site for

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly kills all

> > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune system

> > to work

> > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > that is

> > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > that they

> > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device or 714X

> > > > without

> > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF good

> > and all

> > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially dangerous, it

> > is how

> > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > stuff and

> > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of keeping

> > > > for a

> > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > of the

> > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Scot:

You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

in my craw.

Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

comments.. Enjoy.

Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

man on this planet.

Kind Regards, Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi Jim:

>

> Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> least.

>

> I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

>

> Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

>

> Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> additional evidence.

>

> If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

>

> Thanks again, Jim.

>

>

>

> At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>

> >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

> >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming chore.

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> >

> >Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Jim:

> > >

> > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >:

> > > >

> > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has

> seen it

> > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife was a

> > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> searched

> > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> considered.

> > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> years) for

> > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > >

> > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> based on

> > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes often

> > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page

> report

> > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> that we

> > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> between

> > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical community will

> > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> work on

> > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > >

> > > >Regards, Jim

> > > >

> > > >Brown wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > >

> > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> created

> > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not one or

> > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was done with

> > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has efficacy.

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably

> in its

> > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive cure

> > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> " seems "

> > > > > like it might work.

> > > > >

> > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually seen

> > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> results. Can

> > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > > that he

> > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > > He also

> > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer.

> Then he

> > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> this does

> > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job in his

> > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> off the

> > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening with

> > > drugs

> > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > > years is

> > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> resonance

> > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > > unless I

> > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> sounds

> > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > > ever been

> > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> cancer who

> > > > > used the

> > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular

> manner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

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> > > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly

> kills all

> > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune system

> > > to work

> > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > > that is

> > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > > that they

> > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device

> or 714X

> > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF good

> > > and all

> > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially dangerous, it

> > > is how

> > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of

> keeping

> > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > > of the

> > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

Rife, Wilhelm Reich, Philo Farnsworth, Gaston Naessens, Floyd Sweet,

, Pons & Fleischman, Marinov (probably murdered),

Eugene Mallove (most definitely murdered) and Tadahiko Mizuno - Although

Mizuno isn't quite on the ignored list yet.

Jim wrote:

>

> Scot:

>

> You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> in my craw.

>

> Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> comments.. Enjoy.

>

> Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> man on this planet.

>

> Kind Regards, Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi Jim:

> >

> > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > least.

> >

> > I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> > microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

> >

> > Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> > (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> > hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> > the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> > cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> > modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> > reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

> >

> > Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> > frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> > which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> > skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> > believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> > additional evidence.

> >

> > If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> > squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> > Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> > how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> > entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

> >

> > Thanks again, Jim.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

> > >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming chore.

> > ><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884

> <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884>

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> > >

> > >Jim

> > >

> > >Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Jim:

> > > >

> > > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >:

> > > > >

> > > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has

> > seen it

> > > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife

> was a

> > > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> > searched

> > > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> > considered.

> > > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> > years) for

> > > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > > >

> > > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> > based on

> > > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes

> often

> > > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page

> > report

> > > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> > that we

> > > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> > between

> > > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical

> community will

> > > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> > work on

> > > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> > created

> > > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not

> one or

> > > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was

> done with

> > > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has

> efficacy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably

> > in its

> > > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive

> cure

> > > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> > " seems "

> > > > > > like it might work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually

> seen

> > > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> > results. Can

> > > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > > > that he

> > > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > > > He also

> > > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer.

> > Then he

> > > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> > this does

> > > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job

> in his

> > > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> > off the

> > > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening

> with

> > > > drugs

> > > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > > > years is

> > > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> > resonance

> > > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > > > unless I

> > > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> > sounds

> > > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > > > ever been

> > > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> > cancer who

> > > > > > used the

> > > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular

> > manner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

> > > > > > > >

> ><<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net><mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.ne

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> > > > > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>

> > > > > > > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > found the sale

> > > > > > > > > > of the cancer therapeutic agent, 714-X, to be injected

> > > > into lymph

> > > > > > > > > > nodes or inhaled, to be quite

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> >

> > >

> > > >

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> > > > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly

> > kills all

> > > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune

> system

> > > > to work

> > > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > > > that they

> > > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device

> > or 714X

> > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF

> good

> > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially

> dangerous, it

> > > > is how

> > > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of

> > keeping

> > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Jim:

You should know from all my posts that I am never, ever into

suppression of information. I'm an enthusiastic supporter of

openness. Unless someone is trying to promote terrorism or violence,

I love reasoned debate and discussion and I'll still love you even if

we disagree vehemently.

I'll not say more about the Rife microscope or healing machine until

at least I watch the movie.

At 03:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>Scot:

>

>You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

>killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

>the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

>in my craw.

>

>Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

>think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

>comments.. Enjoy.

>

>Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

>the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

>fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

>couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

>world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

>like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

>dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

>man on this planet.

>

>Kind Regards, Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi Jim:

> >

> > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > least.

> >

> > I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> > microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

> >

> > Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> > (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> > hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> > the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> > cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> > modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> > reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

> >

> > Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> > frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> > which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> > skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> > believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> > additional evidence.

> >

> > If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> > squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> > Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> > how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> > entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

> >

> > Thanks again, Jim.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

> > >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming chore.

> > ><<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884>htt

> p://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884

> >

>

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> > <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884>

> > >

> > >Jim

> > >

> > >Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Jim:

> > > >

> > > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >:

> > > > >

> > > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has

> > seen it

> > > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife was a

> > > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> > searched

> > > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> > considered.

> > > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> > years) for

> > > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > > >

> > > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> > based on

> > > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes often

> > > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page

> > report

> > > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> > that we

> > > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> > between

> > > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical community will

> > > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> > work on

> > > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> > created

> > > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not one or

> > > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was done with

> > > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has efficacy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably

> > in its

> > > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive cure

> > > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> > " seems "

> > > > > > like it might work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually seen

> > > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> > results. Can

> > > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > > > that he

> > > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > > > He also

> > > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer.

> > Then he

> > > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> > this does

> > > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job in his

> > > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> > off the

> > > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening with

> > > > drugs

> > > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > > > years is

> > > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> > resonance

> > > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > > > unless I

> > > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> > sounds

> > > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > > > ever been

> > > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> > cancer who

> > > > > > used the

> > > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular

> > manner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

> > > > > > > > ><<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net><mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.ne

> > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > found the sale

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> > > > into lymph

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> > kills all

> > > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune system

> > > > to work

> > > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > > > that they

> > > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device

> > or 714X

> > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF good

> > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially dangerous, it

> > > > is how

> > > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of

> > keeping

> > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave:

Not to mention Tesla and then the ones that were previously

excommunicated by the Catholic Church, like Copernicus. The history

of humans is rife (no pun intended) with the suppression of

information that disagrees with the prevalent power's

" truth. " Nevertheless, just because someone's information goes

against the prevalent truth, does not make it true, it still must

pass the tests of validity.

At 05:55 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

>

>Rife, Wilhelm Reich, Philo Farnsworth, Gaston Naessens, Floyd Sweet,

> , Pons & Fleischman, Marinov (probably murdered),

>Eugene Mallove (most definitely murdered) and Tadahiko Mizuno - Although

>Mizuno isn't quite on the ignored list yet.

>

>Jim wrote:

> >

> > Scot:

> >

> > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > in my craw.

> >

> > Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> > think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> > comments.. Enjoy.

> >

> > Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> > the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> > fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> > couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> > world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> > like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> > dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> > man on this planet.

> >

> > Kind Regards, Jim

> >

> > Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Jim:

> > >

> > > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > > least.

> > >

> > > I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> > > microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

> > >

> > > Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> > > (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> > > hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> > > the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> > > cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> > > modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> > > reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

> > >

> > > Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> > > frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> > > which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> > > skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> > > believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> > > additional evidence.

> > >

> > > If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> > > squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> > > Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> > > how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> > > entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

> > >

> > > Thanks again, Jim.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

> > > >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming chore.

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> > > >

> > > >Brown wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > > > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has

> > > seen it

> > > > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife

> > was a

> > > > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > > > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> > > searched

> > > > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > > > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> > > considered.

> > > > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> > > years) for

> > > > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> > > based on

> > > > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > > > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > > > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes

> > often

> > > > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page

> > > report

> > > > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > > > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> > > that we

> > > > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> > > between

> > > > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical

> > community will

> > > > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> > > work on

> > > > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > > > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > > > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > > > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> > > created

> > > > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not

> > one or

> > > > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was

> > done with

> > > > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has

> > efficacy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably

> > > in its

> > > > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive

> > cure

> > > > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> > > " seems "

> > > > > > > like it might work.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually

> > seen

> > > > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> > > results. Can

> > > > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > > > > that he

> > > > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > > > > He also

> > > > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer.

> > > Then he

> > > > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> > > this does

> > > > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job

> > in his

> > > > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> > > off the

> > > > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening

> > with

> > > > > drugs

> > > > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > > > > years is

> > > > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> > > resonance

> > > > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > > > > unless I

> > > > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> > > sounds

> > > > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > > > > ever been

> > > > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> > > cancer who

> > > > > > > used the

> > > > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular

> > > manner.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

> > > > > > > > >

> > ><<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net><mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.ne

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> > > > > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly

> > > kills all

> > > > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune

> > system

> > > > > to work

> > > > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > > > > that they

> > > > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device

> > > or 714X

> > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF

> > good

> > > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially

> > dangerous, it

> > > > > is how

> > > > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > > > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of

> > > keeping

> > > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave:

Not to mention Tesla and then the ones that were previously

excommunicated by the Catholic Church, like Copernicus. The history

of humans is rife (no pun intended) with the suppression of

information that disagrees with the prevalent power's

" truth. " Nevertheless, just because someone's information goes

against the prevalent truth, does not make it true, it still must

pass the tests of validity.

At 05:55 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

>

>Rife, Wilhelm Reich, Philo Farnsworth, Gaston Naessens, Floyd Sweet,

> , Pons & Fleischman, Marinov (probably murdered),

>Eugene Mallove (most definitely murdered) and Tadahiko Mizuno - Although

>Mizuno isn't quite on the ignored list yet.

>

>Jim wrote:

> >

> > Scot:

> >

> > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > in my craw.

> >

> > Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> > think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> > comments.. Enjoy.

> >

> > Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> > the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> > fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> > couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> > world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> > like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> > dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> > man on this planet.

> >

> > Kind Regards, Jim

> >

> > Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Jim:

> > >

> > > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > > least.

> > >

> > > I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> > > microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

> > >

> > > Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> > > (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> > > hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> > > the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> > > cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> > > modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> > > reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human audible range.

> > >

> > > Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> > > frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> > > which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> > > skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> > > believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> > > additional evidence.

> > >

> > > If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> > > squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> > > Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> > > how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> > > entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

> > >

> > > Thanks again, Jim.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch it. I

> > > >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming chore.

> > > ><<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884>h

> ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884

> > <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1238128144752112884>

> > >

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> > > >

> > > >Jim

> > > >

> > > >Brown wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary was an

> > > > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to who has

> > > seen it

> > > > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife

> > was a

> > > > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly respected,

> > > > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> > > searched

> > > > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him and the

> > > > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> > > considered.

> > > > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> > > years) for

> > > > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> > > based on

> > > > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious about

> > > > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully recrafted and

> > > > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes

> > often

> > > > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20 page

> > > report

> > > > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other startling facts

> > > > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> > > that we

> > > > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> > > between

> > > > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical

> > community will

> > > > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> > > work on

> > > > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to start, but

> > > > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for modern

> > > > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it would be

> > > > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure cure only

> > > > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> > > created

> > > > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not

> > one or

> > > > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was

> > done with

> > > > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has

> > efficacy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed miserably

> > > in its

> > > > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive

> > cure

> > > > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> > > " seems "

> > > > > > > like it might work.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually

> > seen

> > > > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see several

> > > > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> > > results. Can

> > > > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the cancer virus

> > > > > that he

> > > > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000 diameters.

> > > > > He also

> > > > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all cancer.

> > > Then he

> > > > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> > > this does

> > > > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well described in the

> > > > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job

> > in his

> > > > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> > > off the

> > > > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening

> > with

> > > > > drugs

> > > > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the measure. Five

> > > > > years is

> > > > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly selectively

> > > > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> > > resonance

> > > > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter until and

> > > > > unless I

> > > > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> > > sounds

> > > > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is snake oil

> > > > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have never

> > > > > ever been

> > > > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> > > cancer who

> > > > > > > used the

> > > > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and regular

> > > manner.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Hans

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >On 9/4/06, Brown

> > > > > > > > >

> > ><<mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net><mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.ne

> > > > > >

>

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>

> > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>

> > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>

> > > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>

> > > > > > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>

> > > > > > > > > <mailto:scotflyr%40pacbell.net>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi:

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> > > > > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly

> > > kills all

> > > > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune

> > system

> > > > > to work

> > > > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells. Conceptually,

> > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative therapies say

> > > > > that they

> > > > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF device

> > > or 714X

> > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF

> > good

> > > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially

> > dangerous, it

> > > > > is how

> > > > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance kill bad

> > > > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm fond of

> > > keeping

> > > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how 714X or

> > > > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or understanding

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

recent one.

This one was 253KB.

===========================

Brown wrote:

>

> Hi Dave:

>

> Not to mention Tesla and then the ones that were previously

> excommunicated by the Catholic Church, like Copernicus. The history

> of humans is rife (no pun intended) with the suppression of

> information that disagrees with the prevalent power's

> " truth. " Nevertheless, just because someone's information goes

> against the prevalent truth, does not make it true, it still must

> pass the tests of validity.

>

>

>

> At 05:55 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

recent one.

This one was 179KB.

===========================

Dave Narby wrote:

>

> Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

>

> Rife, Wilhelm Reich, Philo Farnsworth, Gaston Naessens, Floyd Sweet,

> , Pons & Fleischman, Marinov (probably murdered),

> Eugene Mallove (most definitely murdered) and Tadahiko Mizuno - Although

> Mizuno isn't quite on the ignored list yet.

>

> Jim wrote:

> >

> > Scot:

> >

> > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > in my craw.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

recent one.

This one was 148KB.

===========================

Brown wrote:

>

> Jim:

>

> You should know from all my posts that I am never, ever into

> suppression of information. I'm an enthusiastic supporter of

> openness. Unless someone is trying to promote terrorism or violence,

> I love reasoned debate and discussion and I'll still love you even if

> we disagree vehemently.

>

> I'll not say more about the Rife microscope or healing machine until

> at least I watch the movie.

>

>

>

> At 03:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Scot:

> >

> >You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> >killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> >the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> >in my craw.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

recent one.

This one was 110KB.

===========================

Jim wrote:

>

> Scot:

>

> You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> in my craw.

>

> Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> comments.. Enjoy.

>

> Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> man on this planet.

>

> Kind Regards, Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi Jim:

> >

> > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > least.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Why don't you post something relevant to the subject. I haven't seen

any posts by you responding to topic. Trimming posts is not

relevant, especially repeated so many times. Who cares what the length was?

At 03:39 AM 9/8/2006, you wrote:

>Hi,

>U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

>recent one.

>This one was 110KB.

>===========================

>

>Jim wrote:

> >

> > Scot:

> >

> > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > in my craw.

> >

> > Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> > think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> > comments.. Enjoy.

> >

> > Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> > the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> > fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> > couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> > world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> > like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> > dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> > man on this planet.

> >

> > Kind Regards, Jim

> >

> > Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Jim:

> > >

> > > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > > least.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Validity, shmalidity... Copernicus was right, but that didn't help him

any! Likewise the others I've mentioned. To quote Max Planck: " *Truth

never triumphs -- its opponents just die out. " *

Brown wrote:

>

> Hi Dave:

>

> Not to mention Tesla and then the ones that were previously

> excommunicated by the Catholic Church, like Copernicus. The history

> of humans is rife (no pun intended) with the suppression of

> information that disagrees with the prevalent power's

> " truth. " Nevertheless, just because someone's information goes

> against the prevalent truth, does not make it true, it still must

> pass the tests of validity.

>

>

>

> At 05:55 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Here's a short list of suppressed/ignored inventors:

> >

> >Rife, Wilhelm Reich, Philo Farnsworth, Gaston Naessens, Floyd Sweet,

> > , Pons & Fleischman, Marinov (probably murdered),

> >Eugene Mallove (most definitely murdered) and Tadahiko Mizuno - Although

> >Mizuno isn't quite on the ignored list yet.

> >

> >Jim wrote:

> > >

> > > Scot:

> > >

> > > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online

> groups in

> > > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > > in my craw.

> > >

> > > Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the

> movie... I

> > > think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> > > comments.. Enjoy.

> > >

> > > Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> > > the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> > > fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> > > couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> > > world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> > > like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> > > dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the

> survival of

> > > man on this planet.

> > >

> > > Kind Regards, Jim

> > >

> > > Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Jim:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > > > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to

> say the

> > > > least.

> > > >

> > > > I just wonder why Zeiss and others wouldn't want better optical

> > > > microscopes? There has got to be $Billions in such a device.

> > > >

> > > > Also, why are these copies of the Rife EM frequency microbe killer

> > > > (or whatever it's called) not working (per previous posts)? Is it

> > > > hard to make it work? Do you need to check the patient's cells with

> > > > the Rife microscope and adjust the killer modulation to the precise

> > > > cell in question, perhaps? The movie states that Rife adjusts the

> > > > modulation until the virus or microbe in question is killed. All the

> > > > reported frequencies have been in the middle of the human

> audible range.

> > > >

> > > > Clearly this is not talking about RF directly at these audible

> > > > frequencies, but rather some sort of modulation of a carrier wave,

> > > > which all radio equipment is capable of, of course. I remain

> > > > skeptical, but very fascinated, I want to learn all about it. To

> > > > believe it, I've got to more thoroughly understand it and have

> > > > additional evidence.

> > > >

> > > > If all true, one wonders how much other fantastic research has been

> > > > squashed by one vested interest or another. Whatever the truth about

> > > > Rife, the Internet is a beautiful thing. They haven't figured out

> > > > how to censor us there yet very well and there are many powerful

> > > > entities emerging that promote openness, Google among them.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again, Jim.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 12:59 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >OK . Please bookmark this if you do not have time to watch

> it. I

> > > > >never delete emails, so finding an old one is a time consuming

> chore.

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> > > > >

> > > > >Jim

> > > > >

> > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I guess not. Can you send it again? Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > At 07:30 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >You did get the URL for the video, right? This documentary

> was an

> > > > > > >honest historical report. Everyone that I have talked to

> who has

> > > > seen it

> > > > > > >has been very positive about it. There is no question that Rife

> > > was a

> > > > > > >mainstream scientist in his time. His work was highly

> respected,

> > > > > > >repeated, and confirmed by a number of west coast doctors who

> > > > searched

> > > > > > >him out to use it. It was only after the AMA went after him

> and the

> > > > > > >practitioners who followed him that his work was no longer

> > > > considered.

> > > > > > >At least one of those practitioners went to jail (for three

> > > > years) for

> > > > > > >practicing with his technology.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >I do not see why his treatment should be swept under the table

> > > > based on

> > > > > > >politics as it was and is even today. If people are serious

> about

> > > > > > >curing cancer, his instruments should be carefully

> recrafted and

> > > > > > >proven or disproven objectively.. JoAnn Guest, who contributes

> > > often

> > > > > > >in the alternative medicine group, wrote a glowing 20

> page

> > > > report

> > > > > > >and recommendation on his work amid a lot of other

> startling facts

> > > > > > >about alternative cancer cures about a month ago. As with about

> > > > > > >everything that JoAnn reports on, I was impressed. She is very

> > > > > > >thorough. I have never been diagnosed with cancer, but I agree

> > > > that we

> > > > > > >all have it and its our immune system that makes the difference

> > > > between

> > > > > > >sickness and wellness. Hopefully, some day our medical

> > > community will

> > > > > > >drop the losing dogma that follows the dollar and center their

> > > > work on

> > > > > > >healing and wellness. Cancer would be a great place to

> start, but

> > > > > > >heart disease is almost as bad with its emphasis on surgical

> > > > > > >intervention and lowering cholesterol. If it were not for

> modern

> > > > > > >medicine's success with trauma and corrective surgery, it

> would be

> > > > > > >total loss in my opinion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Jim:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In medical science, proof of a valid treatment or cure

> cure only

> > > > > > > > comes from repeatability. A documentary movie can be easily

> > > > created

> > > > > > > > and fabricated. Multiple doctors, researchers or labs, not

> > > one or

> > > > > > > > two, but many, need to be able to easily repeat what was

> > > done with

> > > > > > > > the same or similar results to show that a treatment has

> > > efficacy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I agree with you that mainstream medicine has failed

> miserably

> > > > in its

> > > > > > > > ability to cure cancer. That I want there to be a definitive

> > > cure

> > > > > > > > does not give me sufficient reason to believe in a cure that

> > > > " seems "

> > > > > > > > like it might work.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You seem to believe in this treatment, but have you actually

> > > seen

> > > > > > > > first-hand proof? I can't believe in this until I see

> several

> > > > > > > > credible scientists repeat the work and report similar

> > > > results. Can

> > > > > > > > you or anyone else provide that?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At 05:21 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Rife did not explode cancer cells. He exploded the

> cancer virus

> > > > > > that he

> > > > > > > > >observed it under his universal microscope at 30,000

> diameters.

> > > > > > He also

> > > > > > > > >injected the same virus in 400 rats and gave them all

> cancer.

> > > > Then he

> > > > > > > > >proceeded to cure them by blowing up the virus. I know that

> > > > this does

> > > > > > > > >not jib with current cancer dogma, but is well

> described in the

> > > > > > > > >documentary and apparently, he did a reasonable enough job

> > > in his

> > > > > > > > >verification One thing for certain, mainstream medicine is

> > > > off the

> > > > > > > > >mark in their search for a cancer cure. It is not happening

> > > with

> > > > > > drugs

> > > > > > > > >or radiation therapy when lifetime cures are the

> measure. Five

> > > > > > years is

> > > > > > > > >not a cure..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Regards, Jim

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Brown wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Personally the physics involved with supposedly

> selectively

> > > > > > > > > > " exploding " cancer cells, but not normal cells through

> > > > resonance

> > > > > > > > > > seems like black magic to me. I'm a major doubter

> until and

> > > > > > unless I

> > > > > > > > > > see it and fully understand it. None of the explanations

> > > > sounds

> > > > > > > > > > plausible to me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > At 10:24 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >I don't know about 714x, but the Rife machine is

> snake oil

> > > > > > > > IMNSHO. Many

> > > > > > > > > > >patients of mine have used Rife machines and I have

> never

> > > > > > ever been

> > > > > > > > > > able to

> > > > > > > > > > >discern any benefit. This includes a man who died of

> > > > cancer who

> > > > > > > > used the

> > > > > > > > > > >machine for over two years on a very serious and

> regular

> > > > manner.

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> > > > > > > > > > > This is a far cry

> > > > > > > > > > > > from the pulsed RF resonant device that supposedly

> > > > kills all

> > > > > > > > the bad

> > > > > > > > > > > > microbes.... 714X is supposed to enable your immune

> > > system

> > > > > > to work

> > > > > > > > > > > > better to recognize and kill cancer cells.

> Conceptually,

> > > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > > > great and it is how many other alternative

> therapies say

> > > > > > that they

> > > > > > > > > > > > work, like the Gearson therapy.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm not ready to try either the RF

> device

> > > > or 714X

> > > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > > a lot more verification. For example, why is this RF

> > > good

> > > > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > > > > other EMI/RFI bad? Resonance is potentially

> > > dangerous, it

> > > > > > is how

> > > > > > > > > > > > microwaves heat food. Why would this resonance

> kill bad

> > > > > > stuff and

> > > > > > > > > > > > not good stuff, like the brain cells that I'm

> fond of

> > > > keeping

> > > > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > > > while longer? I don't have the foggiest idea how

> 714X or

> > > > > > > > Rife's 500

> > > > > > > > > > > > Watt RF transmitter aimed at my body work.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have first-hand experience or

> understanding

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > technology or tried this, why do you believe in it?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

& U need 2 realize that NOBODY will EVER trim posts... & that posting

something more than twice gets you on everybody's sh!t list.

medmidas wrote:

>

> Hi,

> U need to trim yr posts, cutting long chains of previous posts except

> recent one.

> This one was 110KB.

> ===========================

>

> Jim wrote:

> >

> > Scot:

> >

> > You last comment is the hook, isn't it? This kind of info has been

> > killing me for the last few years. I have been in many online groups in

> > the past ten years and these little hooks keep flying out and sticking

> > in my craw.

> >

> > Your questions are best answered by watching the rest of the movie... I

> > think that its all there and you are right on the trail with your

> > comments.. Enjoy.

> >

> > Glad you are finally onto this. I find it fascinating and painful at

> > the same time. The same sort of thing prevails in the new energy

> > fields. You would not believe what happens when you start running a

> > couple of Joe Cells and take some measurements. The fact is that the

> > world is just stuck in dogma and dollars. I think that its discussions

> > like this that have a chance of moving things out of the preconceived

> > dogma into the light. Ultimately, it could boil down to the survival of

> > man on this planet.

> >

> > Kind Regards, Jim

> >

> > Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Jim:

> > >

> > > Thanks very much for the link. I watched the first 15 minutes of the

> > > video...all the time I have today. Quite fascinating story to say the

> > > least.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

>

--

This is your brain on politics:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060131092225.htm

Yep! You've been an annoying zombie all these years.