Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi: I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this forum, not all vaccines are made safely, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as well or to follow suit shortly. No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing hordes of antibodies against the microbes we encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout our lives. The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal species. No longevity program is very good without consideration toward the immune system. At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: ><http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been >banned in many countries. > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > >--------------------------------- >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi: I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this forum, not all vaccines are made safely, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as well or to follow suit shortly. No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing hordes of antibodies against the microbes we encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout our lives. The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal species. No longevity program is very good without consideration toward the immune system. At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: ><http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been >banned in many countries. > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > >--------------------------------- >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 There is a debate as to whether homogenized milk causes problems also. After reading all of the evidence, I decide that pasteurized was not all that bad, considering the nasties that are said to invade modern milk farms on occasion. These cows can be treated pretty badly compared to the old days. I also decided that there is no question that cow's milk is not the healthy drink that it is made out to be But I do like my oat cereal with milk... old habits are tough to overcome. So I went to a local supplier of cream and skim milk and I combine the two over my cereal... its a tasty choice that I can live with.. whole cream would make just about anything taste great. Jim Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. > > That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their > mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the > immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, > but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this > forum, not all vaccines are made safely, > unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad > because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, > etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with > astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known > to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even > slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of > note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines > or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as > well or to follow suit shortly. > > No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " > that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing > hordes of antibodies against the microbes we > encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout > our lives. > > The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born > with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, > already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that > target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent > autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the > surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target > antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they > do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the > same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and > thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one > of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that > protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack > that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing > thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all > possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at > birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and > is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal > species. No longevity program is very good without consideration > toward the immune system. > > > > At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > ><http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > > > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering > >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > > > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer > >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two > >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by > >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > > > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your > >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a > >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been > >banned in many countries. > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 There is a debate as to whether homogenized milk causes problems also. After reading all of the evidence, I decide that pasteurized was not all that bad, considering the nasties that are said to invade modern milk farms on occasion. These cows can be treated pretty badly compared to the old days. I also decided that there is no question that cow's milk is not the healthy drink that it is made out to be But I do like my oat cereal with milk... old habits are tough to overcome. So I went to a local supplier of cream and skim milk and I combine the two over my cereal... its a tasty choice that I can live with.. whole cream would make just about anything taste great. Jim Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. > > That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their > mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the > immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, > but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this > forum, not all vaccines are made safely, > unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad > because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, > etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with > astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known > to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even > slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of > note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines > or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as > well or to follow suit shortly. > > No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " > that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing > hordes of antibodies against the microbes we > encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout > our lives. > > The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born > with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, > already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that > target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent > autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the > surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target > antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they > do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the > same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and > thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one > of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that > protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack > that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing > thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all > possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at > birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and > is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal > species. No longevity program is very good without consideration > toward the immune system. > > > > At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > ><http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > > > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering > >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > > > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer > >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two > >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by > >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > > > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your > >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a > >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been > >banned in many countries. > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 On Thursday 07 September 2006 1:15 pm, Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. Unless someone fed the cow an apple or two, then the milk is just plain yucky. Ok, when I was in college I sometimes spent the weekend at a girlfriend's parents home and farm and they drank fresh milk regularly. She sometimes fed the cow an apple, not a lot because apparently it tended to give the cow some digestive problems. Shake/mix before drinking. -- Steve - dudescholar2@... " It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. " -- Babson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 On Thursday 07 September 2006 1:15 pm, Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. Unless someone fed the cow an apple or two, then the milk is just plain yucky. Ok, when I was in college I sometimes spent the weekend at a girlfriend's parents home and farm and they drank fresh milk regularly. She sometimes fed the cow an apple, not a lot because apparently it tended to give the cow some digestive problems. Shake/mix before drinking. -- Steve - dudescholar2@... " It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. " -- Babson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 > > > Unless someone fed the cow an apple or two, then the milk is just > plain yucky. > Ok, when I was in college I sometimes spent the weekend at a girlfriend's > parents home and farm and they drank fresh milk regularly. She > sometimes fed > the cow an apple, not a lot because apparently it tended to give the > cow some > digestive problems. > > Shake/mix before drinking. > Man, your girlfriend and her family must have been some pretty strong customers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 The one thing you might want to avoid is milk from RBST treated cows. Cows are typically bred to produce copious amounts of milk, and RBST pushes them even further. This naturally leads to increased incidents of mastitis, which means the cows are usually given more antibiotics, which of course... Shows up in the milk. I'd only drink raw milk if I knew the farmer well and trusted him to take good care of his cows. You DON'T want to know what goes on in most dairy farms... Sufficeth to say you should only drink milk from happy cows... Jim wrote: > > There is a debate as to whether homogenized milk causes problems also. > After reading all of the evidence, I decide that pasteurized was not > all that bad, considering the nasties that are said to invade modern > milk farms on occasion. These cows can be treated pretty badly compared > to the old days. I also decided that there is no question that cow's > milk is not the healthy drink that it is made out to be But I do like > my oat cereal with milk... old habits are tough to overcome. So I went > to a local supplier of cream and skim milk and I combine the two over my > cereal... its a tasty choice that I can live with.. whole cream would > make just about anything taste great. > > Jim > > Brown wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. > > > > That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their > > mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the > > immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, > > but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this > > forum, not all vaccines are made safely, > > unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad > > because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, > > etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with > > astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known > > to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even > > slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of > > note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines > > or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as > > well or to follow suit shortly. > > > > No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " > > that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing > > hordes of antibodies against the microbes we > > encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout > > our lives. > > > > The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born > > with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, > > already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that > > target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent > > autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the > > surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target > > antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they > > do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the > > same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and > > thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one > > of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that > > protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack > > that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing > > thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all > > possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at > > birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and > > is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal > > species. No longevity program is very good without consideration > > toward the immune system. > > > > > > > > At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > > > > ><http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>>htt\ p://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>> > > > > > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > > > > > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering > > >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > > > > > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer > > >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two > > >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by > > >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > > > > > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your > > >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a > > >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been > > >banned in many countries. > > > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > > >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I was raised on a dairy farm and drank whole unprocessed milk for 18 years before joining the service. The problem today with milk as I see it is the fact that so many producers use antibiotics and hormones (BST)! A lot of milk labeled " Organic " at the store is not truly organic (Horizon Milk) among others. Whole milk straight from the cow is a truly wonderful product and a great source of protein and calcium. The so called processed milk in the stores is not! I go to great lengths to acquire unprocessed whole milk for myself and my family. If you add the Kefir Grains to the milk it is even better for you. Jim On Thursday 07 September 2006 1:15 pm, Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. Unless someone fed the cow an apple or two, then the milk is just plain yucky. Ok, when I was in college I sometimes spent the weekend at a girlfriend's parents home and farm and they drank fresh milk regularly. She sometimes fed the cow an apple, not a lot because apparently it tended to give the cow some digestive problems. Shake/mix before drinking. -- Steve - dudescholar2@ <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net> basicmail.net " It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. " -- Babson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I was raised on a dairy farm and drank whole unprocessed milk for 18 years before joining the service. The problem today with milk as I see it is the fact that so many producers use antibiotics and hormones (BST)! A lot of milk labeled " Organic " at the store is not truly organic (Horizon Milk) among others. Whole milk straight from the cow is a truly wonderful product and a great source of protein and calcium. The so called processed milk in the stores is not! I go to great lengths to acquire unprocessed whole milk for myself and my family. If you add the Kefir Grains to the milk it is even better for you. Jim On Thursday 07 September 2006 1:15 pm, Brown wrote: > Hi: > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. Unless someone fed the cow an apple or two, then the milk is just plain yucky. Ok, when I was in college I sometimes spent the weekend at a girlfriend's parents home and farm and they drank fresh milk regularly. She sometimes fed the cow an apple, not a lot because apparently it tended to give the cow some digestive problems. Shake/mix before drinking. -- Steve - dudescholar2@ <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net> basicmail.net " It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. " -- Babson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Sufficeth? Is that how you talk in person too? ;-) Reeeel niceth, cows with a criseth! At 02:40 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote: >The one thing you might want to avoid is milk from RBST treated cows. >Cows are typically bred to produce copious amounts of milk, and RBST >pushes them even further. > >This naturally leads to increased incidents of mastitis, which means the >cows are usually given more antibiotics, which of course... Shows up in >the milk. > >I'd only drink raw milk if I knew the farmer well and trusted him to >take good care of his cows. You DON'T want to know what goes on in most >dairy farms... Sufficeth to say you should only drink milk from happy >cows... > >Jim wrote: > > > > There is a debate as to whether homogenized milk causes problems also. > > After reading all of the evidence, I decide that pasteurized was not > > all that bad, considering the nasties that are said to invade modern > > milk farms on occasion. These cows can be treated pretty badly compared > > to the old days. I also decided that there is no question that cow's > > milk is not the healthy drink that it is made out to be But I do like > > my oat cereal with milk... old habits are tough to overcome. So I went > > to a local supplier of cream and skim milk and I combine the two over my > > cereal... its a tasty choice that I can live with.. whole cream would > > make just about anything taste great. > > > > Jim > > > > Brown wrote: > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. > > > > > > That's why babies and little children love to put everything in their > > > mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the > > > immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, > > > but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this > > > forum, not all vaccines are made safely, > > > unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad > > > because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, > > > etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with > > > astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known > > > to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even > > > slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of > > > note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines > > > or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as > > > well or to follow suit shortly. > > > > > > No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning mode " > > > that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing > > > hordes of antibodies against the microbes we > > > encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout > > > our lives. > > > > > > The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born > > > with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, > > > already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that > > > target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent > > > autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the > > > surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target > > > antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they > > > do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the > > > same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and > > > thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages (one > > > of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that > > > protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack > > > that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing > > > thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all > > > possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at > > > birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and > > > is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other animal > > > species. No longevity program is very good without consideration > > > toward the immune system. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > > > > > > > ><<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_ra > w_milk.htm>http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk\ ..htm > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > <<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>><ht\ tp://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>http://w\ ww.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > <<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>> > > > > > > > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > > > > > > > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering > > > >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > > > > > > > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer > > > >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two > > > >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by > > > >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > > > > > > > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your > > > >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a > > > >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been > > > >banned in many countries. > > > > > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > > > >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 That should probably actually be more alliteratively termed, " bovines in a bind " . O_o Brown wrote: > > > Sufficeth? Is that how you talk in person too? ;-) Reeeel niceth, > cows with a criseth! > > At 02:40 PM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > >The one thing you might want to avoid is milk from RBST treated cows. > >Cows are typically bred to produce copious amounts of milk, and RBST > >pushes them even further. > > > >This naturally leads to increased incidents of mastitis, which means the > >cows are usually given more antibiotics, which of course... Shows up in > >the milk. > > > >I'd only drink raw milk if I knew the farmer well and trusted him to > >take good care of his cows. You DON'T want to know what goes on in most > >dairy farms... Sufficeth to say you should only drink milk from happy > >cows... > > > >Jim wrote: > > > > > > There is a debate as to whether homogenized milk causes problems also. > > > After reading all of the evidence, I decide that pasteurized was not > > > all that bad, considering the nasties that are said to invade modern > > > milk farms on occasion. These cows can be treated pretty badly > compared > > > to the old days. I also decided that there is no question that cow's > > > milk is not the healthy drink that it is made out to be But I do like > > > my oat cereal with milk... old habits are tough to overcome. So I went > > > to a local supplier of cream and skim milk and I combine the two > over my > > > cereal... its a tasty choice that I can live with.. whole cream would > > > make just about anything taste great. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Brown wrote: > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > I'm all for raw milk. It tastes better too. > > > > > > > > That's why babies and little children love to put everything in > their > > > > mouths including bugs, worms and doggie doo-doo. It primes the > > > > immune system. Of course that is what vaccines are supposed to do, > > > > but supposedly in a safer way. As many have pointed out on this > > > > forum, not all vaccines are made safely, > > > > unfortunately. Nevertheless, I wouldn't discount all vaccines as bad > > > > because some have been made poorly, as with mercury preservatives, > > > > etc.. As a member of the NASA medical team that interfaced with > > > > astronauts, I was forced to get vaccinated against everything known > > > > to man, every conceivable vaccine. I never had a single even > > > > slightly adverse reaction at the time or to my knowledge since. Of > > > > note is that mercury preservatives are no longer allowed in vaccines > > > > or any medication in the US or the EU anymore, most other places as > > > > well or to follow suit shortly. > > > > > > > > No doubt the immune system is in a different state, a " learning > mode " > > > > that is more intense in our early years than as adults, establishing > > > > hordes of antibodies against the microbes we > > > > encounter. Nevertheless, we continue to gain new immunity throughout > > > > our lives. > > > > > > > > The immune system is very, very interesting. We are actually born > > > > with antibodies against every conceivable protein in the universe, > > > > already within our systems and the Thymus eliminates those that > > > > target proteins that make up our own bodies to prevent > > > > autoimmunity. As we are exposed to foreign proteins, as found on the > > > > surfaces of viruses, fungi and bacteria, the specific target > > > > antibodies attach themselves to these surface proteins and when they > > > > do, a chemical signal tells them to reproduce and create more of the > > > > same antibody. This antibody " identifies " the foreign protein and > > > > thus signals the rest of the immune system, like the macrophages > (one > > > > of the several types of T-cells), to attack the bearer of that > > > > protein and also to signal it to create killer T-cells that attack > > > > that specific protein's bearer with even greater force. The amazing > > > > thing is that the template for attaching to and identifying all > > > > possible protein variations - billions of them - is with us at > > > > birth. The human immune system is the most advanced on the Earth and > > > > is likely the main reason for our longer lives than most other > animal > > > > species. No longevity program is very good without consideration > > > > toward the immune system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:13 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ><<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_ra > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_ra> > > > w_milk.htm>http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk\ ..htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>>><h\ ttp://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>http\ ://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm> > > > > > > > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm > <http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm>>> > > > > > > > > > >Excerpt : (Please read Dr Mercola's Comments in the link) > > > > > > > > > >Raw (unpasteurized) milk could reduce children's risk of suffering > > > > >from conditions such as eczema and hay fever. > > > > > > > > > >A new study investigating why children raised on farms have fewer > > > > >allergies than those raised in cities has shown that just two > > > > >glasses each week reduced a child's chances of developing eczema by > > > > >almost 40 percent and hay fever by 10 percent. > > > > > > > > > >Raw milk is thought to contain bacteria that helps to prime your > > > > >immune system. However, unpasteurized milk is also thought to be a > > > > >source of potentially bad bacteria as well, so its sale has been > > > > >banned in many countries. > > > > > > > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the > > > > >conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > >Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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