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Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and monofidil? And

if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

for liver.

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I saw

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=\

15121488 & dopt=Abstract

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=\

15121488 & dopt=Abstract>>this

>

> and some research done at Cambridge on Modafinil with normal

> individuals showing an increase in cognitive performance, presented

> at a conference at Oxford. I decided to get some and try it. I love

> it, it helps me concentrate wakefully for hours and it is totally

> non-addictive. It was originally created for narcolepsy and that is

> its one approved use in the us thus

> far.

>

<http://www.freedom-pharmacy.com/Products2.asp?Brand=MODALERT+%28Modafinil%2CPro\

vigil%29 & T=m

>

<http://www.freedom-pharmacy.com/Products2.asp?Brand=MODALERT+%28Modafinil%2CPro\

vigil%29 & T=m>>Here

>

> is one of the cheaper places to buy it and with no shipping

> charges. There is a lot of information linked on it

> <http://qualitycounts.com/drugs/narcolepsy/provigil_modafinil.htm

> <http://qualitycounts.com/drugs/narcolepsy/provigil_modafinil.htm>>here,

> if you're interested.

>

>

>

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On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and monofidil? And

> if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> for liver.

I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is available from

international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at all.

As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for example

using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete CBC/CMP+cholesterol

test for $35.

--

Steve - dudescholar2@...

" Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

--Friedrich Nietzsche

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I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

>On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and monofidil? And

> > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> > for liver.

>

>I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is available from

>international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

>scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

>international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at all.

>

>As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for example

>using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

>checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete CBC/CMP+cholesterol

>test for $35.

>

>--

>

>Steve - <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

>

> " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

>--Friedrich Nietzsche

>

>

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Hi:

I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

>On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and monofidil? And

> > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> > for liver.

>

>I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is available from

>international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

>scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

>international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at all.

>

>As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for example

>using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

>checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete CBC/CMP+cholesterol

>test for $35.

>

>--

>

>Steve - <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

>

> " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

>--Friedrich Nietzsche

>

>

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I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for and what

effects have you

observed ?

Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

> well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

> toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

> source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

> using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

>

>

>

> At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

>

> >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> monofidil? And

> > > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> > > for liver.

> >

> >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is

> available from

> >international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

> >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

> >international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at

> all.

> >

> >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for

> example

> >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

> >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> >test for $35.

> >

> >--

> >

> >Steve -

> <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudescholar2@...

> <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>

> >

> > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

> >--Friedrich Nietzsche

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi:

Wakefulness, improved mental focus and cognition.

At 09:42 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>:

>

>I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for and what

>effects have you

>observed ?

>

>Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

> > well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

> > toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

> > source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

> > using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> > monofidil? And

> > > > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> > > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> > > > for liver.

> > >

> > >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is

> > available from

> > >international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

> > >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

> > >international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at

> > all.

> > >

> > >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for

> > example

> > >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

> > >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> > CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> > >test for $35.

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >Steve -

> >

>

<mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net><mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudesc\

holar2@...

>

> > <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>

> > >

> > > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

> > >--Friedrich Nietzsche

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Hi:

Wakefulness, improved mental focus and cognition.

At 09:42 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>:

>

>I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for and what

>effects have you

>observed ?

>

>Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

> > well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

> > toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

> > source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

> > using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> > monofidil? And

> > > > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I have taken

> > > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with a fear

> > > > for liver.

> > >

> > >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is

> > available from

> > >international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the US and is

> > >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

> > >international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at

> > all.

> > >

> > >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for

> > example

> > >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get your liver

> > >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> > CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> > >test for $35.

> > >

> > >--

> > >

> > >Steve -

> >

>

<mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net><mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudesc\

holar2@...

>

> > <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>

> > >

> > > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

> > >--Friedrich Nietzsche

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Well, I guess we could all use a piece of that action.

Did you have any specific problems that you were trying to address?

If so, what relief did you get?

(I realize that I could be prying into something that you prefer not

discuss here. If so, do not respond)

Thanks, Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Wakefulness, improved mental focus and cognition.

>

>

>

> At 09:42 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>

> >:

> >

> >I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for and what

> >effects have you

> >observed ?

> >

> >Jim

> >

> > Brown wrote:

> >

> > > Hi:

> > >

> > > I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

> > > well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

> > > toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

> > > source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

> > > using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > > > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> > > monofidil? And

> > > > > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I

> have taken

> > > > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with

> a fear

> > > > > for liver.

> > > >

> > > >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is

> > > available from

> > > >international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the

> US and is

> > > >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

> > > >international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell it at

> > > all.

> > > >

> > > >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer than for

> > > example

> > > >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get

> your liver

> > > >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> > > CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> > > >test for $35.

> > > >

> > > >--

> > > >

> > > >Steve -

> > >

> >

>

<mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net><mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>dudesc\

holar2@...

> <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>

> >

> > > <mailto:dudescholar2%40basicmail.net>

> > > >

> > > > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

> > > >--Friedrich Nietzsche

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

temperature and these aspects.

If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

that post slightly paraphrased:

>>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

" mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

higher than the rest of the population.

I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

temperature drops... simple enough.

>

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

temperature and these aspects.

If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

that post slightly paraphrased:

>>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

" mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

higher than the rest of the population.

I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

temperature drops... simple enough.

>

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Hi:

Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

blood and make it flow better, among other things.

May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

>please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

>another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

>temperature and these aspects.

>

>If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

>happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

>migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

>related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

>that post slightly paraphrased:

>

> >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

>reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

>by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

>years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

>ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

>What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

>definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

>spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

>four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

>According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

>medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

>they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

>

><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody\

..html

>

><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

>

>In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

>virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

>cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

>discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

>you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

>degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

>fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

>aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

>rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

>higher than the rest of the population.

>

>I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

>problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

>stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

>migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

>fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

>that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

>(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

>

>The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

>that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

>stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

>blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

>if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

>vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

>blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

>there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

>harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

>high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

>hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

>from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

>major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

>

>All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

>sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

>temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

>suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

>solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

>temperature drops... simple enough.

>

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi:

Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

blood and make it flow better, among other things.

May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

>please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

>another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

>temperature and these aspects.

>

>If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

>happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

>migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

>related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

>that post slightly paraphrased:

>

> >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

>reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

>by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

>years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

>ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

>What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

>definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

>spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

>four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

>According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

>medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

>they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

>

><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody\

..html

>

><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

>

>In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

>virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

>cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

>discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

>you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

>degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

>fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

>aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

>rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

>higher than the rest of the population.

>

>I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

>problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

>stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

>migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

>fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

>that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

>(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

>

>The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

>that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

>stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

>blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

>if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

>vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

>blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

>there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

>harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

>high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

>hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

>from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

>major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

>

>All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

>sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

>temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

>suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

>solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

>temperature drops... simple enough.

>

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Its the Joe Cell2 group. It was a bit off topic for them.

However, we are coming to believe that the Joe Cell may have health

benefits that could even exceed the energy possibilities... so health

topics creep in occasionally, just as Spirituality creeps in here.

Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

> useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

> of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

> several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

> low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

> all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

> blood and make it flow better, among other things.

>

> May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

> like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

>

>

>

> At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>

> >While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

> >please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

> >another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

> >temperature and these aspects.

> >

> >If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

> >happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

> >migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

> >related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

> >that post slightly paraphrased:

> >

> > >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

> >reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

> >by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

> >years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

> >ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

> >What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> > " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

> >definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

> >spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

> >four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

> >According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

> >medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

> >they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

> >

> ><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

>

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody\

..html

> <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

> >

> ><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

> <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>

> >

> >In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

> >virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

> >cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

> >discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

> >you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

> >degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

> >fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

> >aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

> >rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

> >higher than the rest of the population.

> >

> >I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

> >problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

> >stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

> >migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

> >fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

> >that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

> >(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

> >

> >The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

> >that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

> >stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

> >blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

> >if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

> >vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

> >blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

> >there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

> >harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

> >high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

> >hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

> >from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

> >major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

> >

> >All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

> >sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

> >temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

> >suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

> >solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

> >temperature drops... simple enough.

> >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Its the Joe Cell2 group. It was a bit off topic for them.

However, we are coming to believe that the Joe Cell may have health

benefits that could even exceed the energy possibilities... so health

topics creep in occasionally, just as Spirituality creeps in here.

Jim

Brown wrote:

> Hi:

>

> Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

> useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

> of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

> several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

> low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

> all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

> blood and make it flow better, among other things.

>

> May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

> like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

>

>

>

> At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>

> >While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

> >please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

> >another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

> >temperature and these aspects.

> >

> >If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

> >happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

> >migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

> >related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

> >that post slightly paraphrased:

> >

> > >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

> >reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

> >by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

> >years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

> >ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

> >What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> > " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

> >definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

> >spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

> >four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

> >According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

> >medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

> >they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

> >

> ><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

>

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody\

..html

> <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

> >

> ><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

> <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>

> >

> >In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

> >virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

> >cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

> >discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

> >you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

> >degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

> >fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

> >aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

> >rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

> >higher than the rest of the population.

> >

> >I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

> >problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

> >stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

> >migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

> >fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

> >that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

> >(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

> >

> >The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

> >that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

> >stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

> >blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

> >if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

> >vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

> >blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

> >there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

> >harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

> >high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

> >hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

> >from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

> >major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

> >

> >All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

> >sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

> >temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

> >suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

> >solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

> >temperature drops... simple enough.

> >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks Jim,

It is hard not to see many of these connections. Of course many of

the spirituality posts were directly about how spirituality affects

health and longevity, as so many things do.

At 07:46 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>:

>

>Its the Joe Cell2 group. It was a bit off topic for them.

>However, we are coming to believe that the Joe Cell may have health

>benefits that could even exceed the energy possibilities... so health

>topics creep in occasionally, just as Spirituality creeps in here.

>

>Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

> > useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

> > of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

> > several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

> > low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

> > all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

> > blood and make it flow better, among other things.

> >

> > May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

> > like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

> > >please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

> > >another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

> > >temperature and these aspects.

> > >

> > >If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

> > >happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

> > >migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

> > >related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

> > >that post slightly paraphrased:

> > >

> > > >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

> > >reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

> > >by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

> > >years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

> > >ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

> > >What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> > > " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

> > >definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

> > >spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

> > >four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

> > >According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

> > >medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

> > >they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

> > >

> > ><<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.c

> om/mcs/coldbody.html

> >

>

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbod\

y.html>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

>

> > <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

> > >

> > ><<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.c

> om/mcs/coldbody.html

> > <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>

> > >

> > >In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

> > >virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

> > >cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

> > >discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

> > >you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

> > >degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

> > >fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

> > >aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

> > >rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

> > >higher than the rest of the population.

> > >

> > >I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

> > >problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

> > >stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

> > >migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

> > >fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

> > >that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

> > >(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

> > >

> > >The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

> > >that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

> > >stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

> > >blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

> > >if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

> > >vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

> > >blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

> > >there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

> > >harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

> > >high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

> > >hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

> > >from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

> > >major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

> > >

> > >All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

> > >sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

> > >temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

> > >suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

> > >solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

> > >temperature drops... simple enough.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Thanks Jim,

It is hard not to see many of these connections. Of course many of

the spirituality posts were directly about how spirituality affects

health and longevity, as so many things do.

At 07:46 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

>:

>

>Its the Joe Cell2 group. It was a bit off topic for them.

>However, we are coming to believe that the Joe Cell may have health

>benefits that could even exceed the energy possibilities... so health

>topics creep in occasionally, just as Spirituality creeps in here.

>

>Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > Interesting information... I'm glad to know that MegaHydrate is

> > useful in this respect for migraines. I'm certain that my father died

> > of a heart attack triggered from dehydration. I've heard from

> > several alternative doctors that hypothyroidism is the cause of most

> > low body temperature. Of course hydration is very important too for

> > all of us. Ginko biloba, vitamin E and capsicum help to thin the

> > blood and make it flow better, among other things.

> >

> > May I ask, what is the group where this post was made? It sounds

> > like an interesting group. I'd like to know about it.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 01:40 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >While we are on this topic of wakefulness, cognition, and mental focus,

> > >please permit me to deviate slightly. I just opened a letter from

> > >another group that really hit home, especially with me, regarding body

> > >temperature and these aspects.

> > >

> > >If you read this carefully, you will realize that this is BIG if you

> > >happen to have suffered a stroke, have family members with classic

> > >migraine, have problems with uncalled for mood swings... or you are

> > >related to someone with one of these conditions. Below is a section of

> > >that post slightly paraphrased:

> > >

> > > >>>The below address relates to a topic that I have found to be 100%

> > >reliable as to determing " moods " . This information has been suppressed

> > >by the AMA here in the states for over 60 years. I have used this for 2

> > >years and very extensively keep a journal. I disagree with ONLY ONE

> > >ASPECT...the temperature should be taken ORALLY ...not any other way...

> > >What I do know is that my " waking oral temperature " determines the

> > > " mood " I have for the entire day...I consider this as the most

> > >definitive reliable " tool " I have ever found... I put this here in the

> > >spirit of good faith as I am not a doctor, but when I presented this to

> > >four of my doctors, they replied... " I never knew this existed " .

> > >According to them, it has no false information, and said that the

> > >medical world is not ready for this to be used in the everyday world

> > >they are trained in....go figure!!!!<<<

> > >

> > ><<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.c

> om/mcs/coldbody.html

> >

>

<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>><http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbod\

y.html>http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

>

> > <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>

> > >

> > ><<http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>http://www.mall-net.c

> om/mcs/coldbody.html

> > <http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html>>

> > >

> > >In my own case, I went about 50 years with Classic Migraines on

> > >virtually a monthly basis before I got onto the fact that MegaHydrate

> > >cured them... even in midstream. This new info above caps the

> > >discussion beautifully. If you know anything about Classic Migraine,

> > >you know that one aspect is a decrease in body temp (down as low as 90

> > >degrees F). This, of course, is not the part that counts, but the

> > >fact is that people die from migraines frequently enough. Another

> > >aspect of migraine is that migraine sufferers have an inordinately high

> > >rate of stroke.... our death rate from stroke is as much as 10 times

> > >higher than the rest of the population.

> > >

> > >I have long held that stroke and migraine are virtually the same

> > >problem, but stroke is more deadly. Almost all symptoms regarding

> > >stroke are common with classic migraine suffers (the female versions of

> > >migraine, being period .related, do not enter into this analysis). In

> > >fact, if I were having a stroke now, I would more than likely believe

> > >that it was a migraine coming on and would take action to stop it

> > >(the are two types of strokes and this only applies to one).

> > >

> > >The good news, while I have no hard proof of it, is that the action

> > >that some of my interventions would probably help in relieving the

> > >stroke. My understanding is that both conditions are caused by " thick

> > >blood " . In a migraine, the body recognizes that the condition is fatal

> > >if nothing is done and therefore intervenes by opening up the blood

> > >vessels in the head. This action causes the left arm to go numb and a

> > >blind spot in the vision. These are the first physical signs, but

> > >there are also some mental signs that are less easily described and

> > >harder to recognize. After the blood vessels in the head open up, a

> > >high percent of the bodies blood is routed to the brain which causes all

> > >hell to break loose and the full attack occurs. This phase can go on

> > >from, maybe an hour, to days. After the attack is over, its like a

> > >major war was fought and there is no energy left for at least 8 hrs.

> > >

> > >All of this may sound as though it has no application to non

> > >sufferers.... not the case, and this website tells you why. When your

> > >temperature drops, some of the very same things happen whether you

> > >suffer from full blown migraines or just mood swings or depression. The

> > >solution, then, is to hydrate as much as possible when your oral

> > >temperature drops... simple enough.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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I've tried Modafinil and personally feel it's a crappy smart drug,

although it's good if you *need* to stay awake longer than caffeine will

allow. 1000mg of Acetyl-L-Carnitine with 1000 mg of Piracitam does a

lot more for me IMO.

Jim wrote:

>

>

> :

>

> Well, I guess we could all use a piece of that action.

>

> Did you have any specific problems that you were trying to address?

> If so, what relief did you get?

>

> (I realize that I could be prying into something that you prefer not

> discuss here. If so, do not respond)

>

> Thanks, Jim

>

> Brown wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> >

> > Wakefulness, improved mental focus and cognition.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 09:42 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >:

> > >

> > >I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for and what

> > >effects have you

> > >observed ?

> > >

> > >Jim

> > >

> > > Brown wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi:

> > > >

> > > > I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It works

> > > > well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not very liver

> > > > toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I posted a

> > > > source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil. I've been

> > > > using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some days off.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > > > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions? Or more

> > > > > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> > > > monofidil? And

> > > > > > if so have you perceived any difference between the two? I

> > have taken

> > > > > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it out with

> > a fear

> > > > > > for liver.

> > > > >

> > > > >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response. It is

> > > > available from

> > > > >international sources. Modafinil requires a prescription in the

> > US and is

> > > > >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import and many

> > > > >international sites won't ship to US destinations or won't sell

> it at

> > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much rarer

> than for

> > > > example

> > > > >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can always get

> > your liver

> > > > >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> > > > CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> > > > >test for $35.

> > > > >

> > > > >--

> > > > >

> > > > >Steve -

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > > >

> > > > > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. "

> > > > >--Friedrich Nietzsche

> > > > >

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That's nice, me too, but I was asking WHERE you get it. What is your

specific source? [piracitam, ALC]

At 09:45 AM 8/23/2006, you wrote:

>I try to buy everything I like and use in bulk.

>

> Brown wrote:

> >

> > Hi:

> >

> > Where do you get those in bulk? Modafinil comes in 100mg or 200mg

> > tablets only. The most common dose is 200mg and above in clinical

> > use. I find that 200 is pretty intense and 100 is much better. I'm

> > sure that 50mg (half of the smaller tablet) would offer significant

> > effect.

> >

> >

> >

> > At 11:05 PM 8/21/2006, you wrote:

> >

> > >The ALC/Priacetam combo is a pretty popular one. I try to buy

> > >everything in bulk, it's the only way to go if you're of normal means

> > >and want to pursue a longevity/nootropic regimen.

> > >

> > >I drink a fair amount of coffee and tea and have never had a problem, in

> > >fact I'm pretty robust health and energy-wise. I also enjoy both quite

> > >a bit.. It's entirely possible that we have different physiologies

> > >which naturally cause us to react differently.

> > >

> > >Also I believe that 100mg of Modafinil is a fairly substantial dose, I

> > >found 50mg had a notable 'vigilance effect' on me.

> > >

> > > Brown wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Dave:

> > > >

> > > > Modafinil works well for me. I've tried Piracetam up to 800 mg, but

> > > > not with an equal dose of Acetyl-L-Carnitine. It certainly helps,

> > > > but it wears off much faster than Modafinil and doesn't provide the

> > > > wakefulness. Modafinil also definitely improves both my long-term

> > > > and short-term memory. I drink much less coffee on Modafinil, so

> > > > that is pretty good too. Coffee is small doses is good for you, but

> > > > in larger doses, depletes the minerals in the body and can be bad for

> > > > the kidneys. The only thing I don't like about Modafinil is that it

> > > > wears off so slowly. On the days I decide to use it, when I need to

> > > > work intensely, I take 100 mg (1/2 tablet) when I first get up in the

> > > > morning and when I should be going to bed, 16 to 18 hours later, it

> > > > is still affecting me, making it more difficult to sleep

> > > > initially. But I like the fact that in between, there is no lack of

> > > > strongly-focused attention.

> > > >

> > > > I'm going to try the doses you recommend, the next time I get some

> > > > Piracetam. I take Acetyl-L-Carnitine all the time. Do you buy

> > > > Piracetam in bulk?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the information.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 08:06 PM 8/18/2006, you wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >I've tried Modafinil and personally feel it's a crappy smart drug,

> > > > >although it's good if you *need* to stay awake longer than

> > caffeine will

> > > > >allow. 1000mg of Acetyl-L-Carnitine with 1000 mg of Piracitam does a

> > > > >lot more for me IMO.

> > > > >

> > > > >Jim wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I guess we could all use a piece of that action.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Did you have any specific problems that you were trying to

> > address?

> > > > > > If so, what relief did you get?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (I realize that I could be prying into something that you

> > prefer not

> > > > > > discuss here. If so, do not respond)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Jim

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Brown wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wakefulness, improved mental focus and cognition.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > At 09:42 AM 8/14/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >I guess I missed the earlier post. What do you take it for

> > and what

> > > > > > > >effects have you

> > > > > > > >observed ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Jim

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Brown wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I've easily bought Modafinil from international sources. It

> > > > works

> > > > > > > > > well. It is not addictive at all. It is probably not

> > very liver

> > > > > > > > > toxic as I couldn't find much about that beyond warnings. I

> > > > posted a

> > > > > > > > > source in my previous post. I've not tried Adrafinil.

> > I've been

> > > > > > > > > using Modafinil at 100 mg for about 2 weeks with some

> > days off.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > At 09:46 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >On Sunday 13 August 2006 9:37 pm, Apricot85 wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Do you (or anyone) use it only for selected occasions?

> > > > Or more

> > > > > > > > > > > regularly? Have you (or anyone) tried both adrafinil and

> > > > > > > > > monofidil? And

> > > > > > > > > > > if so have you perceived any difference between the

> > two? I

> > > > > > > have taken

> > > > > > > > > > > adrafinil & liked the wakefulness ... but I've cut it

> > > > out with

> > > > > > > a fear

> > > > > > > > > > > for liver.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >I've tried adrafinil several times and got no response.

> > It is

> > > > > > > > > available from

> > > > > > > > > >international sources. Modafinil requires a

> > prescription in the

> > > > > > > US and is

> > > > > > > > > >scheduled in such a way that it's more difficult to import

> > > > and many

> > > > > > > > > >international sites won't ship to US destinations or

> > won't sell

> > > > > > it at

> > > > > > > > > all.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >As to liver problems, they are rare and I believe much

> > rarer

> > > > > > than for

> > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > >using statin " cholesterol lowering " drugs. One can

> > always get

> > > > > > > your liver

> > > > > > > > > >checked. The Life Extension Foundation offers complete

> > > > > > > > > CBC/CMP+cholesterol

> > > > > > > > > >test for $35.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >--

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Steve -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than

> > lies. "

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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