USDA depopulating starts (long)

[Guest guest]

This was posted on several other groups. The USDA is using language from NAIS

to

depopulate farms (euphemism for cull, kill everything).

There is more info at libertyart.net and at

http://nonais.org/index.php/2006/09/29/henshaw-incident/

Very scary. This happened in Germany right before WWII as well as the whole mad

cow

scare in England a few years ago. The independent farmers never recovered in

England.

Lynn

From: Powers <powers4senate@...>

Date: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:47 pm

Subject: Re: USDA Pig slaughter

On a similar note, the USDA through their Veterinary Service Division have

set-up a

department called APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service). They are

currently

screening carcases in the slaughter houses in Austin and Worthington. I don't

know if

APHIS is operating on other locations in Minnesota. Once they get done

practicing, similar

experiences may take place at other locations.

" No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for

the people

to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect

themselves against

tyranny in government " -- Jefferson

Ben Powers

Powers2006.info

Babette Sicard <babette@...> wrote:

This story has been verified now, so I'm cross posting this info all over

the place.

I don't know how we are supposed to fight this when they can come in before

the sun is even up, arrest our men folk and start shooting your animals.

Babs

I have gotten more information on this, directly from the farm that was

destroyed. Another farm was 'hit' by the USDA at the same time. The farmer's

name is Gene , also in Virginia. All his pigs also tested negative, and

all were also killed. There is a test that can be done on live animals,

which is usual protocol in that state and others. Usually if a pig tests

positive, it is quarantined and treated. So, why did this happen? No one

knows, no one wants to answer, except one apologetic wildlife personal

assigned to be a 'guard'. He said they had been to Cuba for training of some

sort, and that training, what ever it entailed, caused 4 personal to quit on

the spot. This farmer had not yet heard of NAIS, which would have given the

USDA the 'right' to warrentless search, seizure or what ever else they

decided to do with the no longer private property. But he had not even

signed his property rights away with the premises registration, yet the USDA

depopulated his farm as pr escribed in the government documents pertaining

to the NAIS. They behaved as tho it was a party, as they slaughtered his

animals. It is now believed this was a training exercise and was done to

gage reactions! This is very scary stuff. I feel we have entered the

twilight that O. refereed to.

Anyone interested in knowing more as it unfolds, just ask.

Thank you, Olaf for posting this. Thanks to anyone who cares and is aware.

Our numbers seem to be growing.

Fran

This is verified by several people I know personally, including a

neighbor who talked to the man this morning. I'll cut and paste to

save opening attachments.

Fran

A local man, who has written a very comprehensive book about all NAIS

entails, suggests it might be what he calls a 'black ops sting',

happening in several states for training purposes! I am hoping this

information, the facts more than the guesses of why, is circulated

extensively and helps wake people up about what is happening to our

country!

Here is what I read first, then I have updates following:

Dear Dick and Becky,

Thank you for writing. It is pretty horrible.

We live on Old Thirteen Road in Gladstone. We are only about 20 miles

from you. Straight down 60, one mile past the slate Buckingham County

sign on the left. We have 152 acres on Old Thirteen. I don't know

what we will do with it now, but you are welcome to come visit.

Sept.12 th we were woken by the Game Warden and my husband was

arrested on a Class 2 Misdemeanor and taken in. At the point of him

leaving the property, 9 USDA cars/SUV's with 4-wheelers and numerous

agents came onto our place with a Quarentine order and began killing

our pigs. It is a very long story to " type " but I will try. Would

you prefer calling us and talking with me or my husband, Danny?

Anyway, we own a private hunting preserve that we have had for 16

years. Danny's warrant was for " operating a mammilian hunting

enclosure without a permit " . We were gradfathered in, since 16 years

ago there was no preserve in Virginia. He went through the

Commonwealth's Attorney, etc. to get a " status " for what the preserve

could be under...Long story short, he did what he was supposed to do.

We are not a secret. We have advertised in Woods and Waters magazine,

have a web site, www.willisriver.com, and send brochures to interested

hunters. My husband is no " fly by night " hunter. He did a show out

west called Wild and True and was once 1 in 10 in the Nation for

Archery. He knows his stuff and our place is beautiful. WAS.

Since Sept. 12, the place has been under 24 hour armed guard for the

USDA under the State Vet (from what we can figure out...no one will

tell us anything) has been eradicating our herd. It has been

horrible. They shot as many as they could and then went to starving

and trapping them. I have to close my windows at night to not hear

the sounds.

The worst thing for us personally, was that they killed our two pet

pigs. These two were on a seperate part of our property, it is even a

seperately deeded piece. The pigs were in their own pen. They were

not tested, but shot and drug out with chains into our driveway. They

left the drag marks and blood for us to see. I raised these two from

3 days old. I bottle fed them

and kept them in the house in a crate until winter was over. They

were EXACTLY 5 1/2 years old the day they were shot. They were sweet

and would follow us around and loved to be scratched. That was the

point I finally broke down. This was the 3rd day they were here.

The " reason " they gave for the eradication was that an agent had

hunted here in May and that the pig had probable pseudo rabies. The

same agent came back on Sept. 9 to hunt and supposedly, that pig had

tested positive. We have seen no reports, no tests, nothing. They

went to work killing our animals. We were not allowed in the

" compound " (their words, not ours), by armed guard, could not run our

own tests (because we do not believe them), and they brought in stock

trailers on a regular schedule to take the dead pigs somewhere to be

incinerated. THEY said our pigs were diseased, THEY shot our pigs,

THEY took them away and THEY had them incinerated. Any proof we have

to refute them is gone. To this day, we have seen no tests. The

State Vet said they could have done things differently...yeah. If our

herd had the disease, and it can be treated (it can), why were we just

not notified, shown the results and let us treat them? Why the 5:00

am rousing out of bed, arrest, and immediate " de-population " of our

animals?

Danny and I feel like drug dealers. My husband is an ex-narcotics

undercover agent, and this goes well beyond his experience.

They actually left yesterday, Sept. 22. Not all the pigs were killed

(yet) because they said they were at their wits end on how to go about

getting all the piglets. They asked Danny if he would assist by

feeding them corn and letting them de-stress so they would go after

the corn again...and then he could kill the remaining pigs. He told

them yes just to get them off the property for a while. We want to

talk to our attorney Monday before we do anything else. The

quarantine said they had 15 days to eradicate the herd or Virginia

could lose its " pseudo rabies free status " . What we find so ironic is

that they are having a hard time killing all the little pigs. If our

herd had pseudo rabies, why all the little pigs??? Pseudo rabies

affects the litters by either being born stillborn, mummified or they

abort. Pseudo rabies symptoms are pigs looking malnourished,

sluggish, coughing, etc. Our pigs were healthy! They were robust,

large, and speedy (just ask the hunters). Our preserve was crawling

with healthy, fat, squilling little pigs! danny fed them ground corn

blended with vitamins, minerals and something else (I can't

remember!).

Please feel free to call or come to our home. We would appreciate any

support.

Cindi and Danny Henshaw

847 Old Thirteen Road, Gladstone, VA 24553

434-933-8455

*********************************

We also need to realize and let others know that and Danny

Henshaw are being billed for the kill off costs... We need to let

groups know that the costs will be billed to and Danny Henshaw

for the Hog kill off but they were not allowed to independently test

and verify and no one will ever know if the tests are kosher or not

since all the animals killed have been incinerated so no verification

can be done. We have to take USDA word for everything. Seems they

have learned not to leave evidence that would prove the tests were

really all negative like has been shown in the past multiple times.

No safeguards for the individual at all. No way will we ever know

what the real results are because who knows what samples are really

there and from where since the animal owners were not allowed to test

themselves independently or even know if the sample tested are their

animals.

[Guest guest]

Lynn

Did you say that you verified this personally or how is it verified. I

believe it but my husband does not believe that anything like that could happen

" in our country " . He frustrates me but I was thinking of calling the Henshaws

directly so my husband can hear it for himself.

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[Guest guest]

I read the nonais.org article when it first came out and was totally

confused by it. Somewhere it mentions this place is like a game

resort where people come to shoot the pigs. Then later, it says the

pigs are like pets following the owners around the place. It sounds a

little skewed to me. I distrust the Guv as much as any educated and

thinking American, but there's more to this story than meets the eye.

Would love to hear what you have to say if you do call these folks.

Dani

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> Lynn

> Did you say that you verified this personally or how is it

verified. I believe it but my husband does not believe that anything

like that could happen " in our country " . He frustrates me but I was

thinking of calling the Henshaws directly so my husband can hear it

for himself.

>

>

>

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> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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[Guest guest]

When I read the story I understood they have a game preserve that is used by

hunters at a fee for sport hunting, but they also have pet pigs that they

raised from new piglets for pets at their home.

As stated, the preserve was set up legally as a business, and has functioned

as a going business for years being publicly advertised..

Either way, if it was not proven that there was any disease, is it right to

destroy their personal and business property? Without warrant or notice?

I recently saw a video title United States vs United Nations Worth time

spent viewing and thinking about the what was said. Go to

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1694510709699078746

Another site worth visiting could be http://www.jbs.org/

I think there is a great connection. Check it out.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Dani

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:43 PM

Subject: Re: USDA depopulating starts (long)

I read the nonais.org article when it first came out and was totally

confused by it. Somewhere it mentions this place is like a game

resort where people come to shoot the pigs. Then later, it says the

pigs are like pets following the owners around the place. It sounds a

little skewed to me. I distrust the Guv as much as any educated and

thinking American, but there's more to this story than meets the eye.

Would love to hear what you have to say if you do call these folks.

Dani

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[Guest guest]

Most farms (at least the non-commodity types) are diversified and apparantly had

pigs as

well as hunting. I'm not sure what they were hunting. These people have been a

hunting

preserve for over 16 years and were grandfathered in under the newest laws in

their state

of Virginia. On other lists people have contacted them and asked questions.

They hadn't

been doing wrong, illegal or even borderline. They had not been engaged in any

interstate

shipping or sales of pigs. The farmer used to be an undercover agent for.. oh

I forgot, I

think drug enforcement.

Apparently, some undercover type government guy hunted on their farm and then

reported psudorabies in their pigs. If he had drawn blood, it would not have

been

properly stored to be able to provide an accurate test result. This disease is

NOT

contagious to people, is NOT rabies and is allowed in meat to be consumed by

humans.

States allow many months for farmers to deal with it before there are any

hassles, and

never depopulation. This disease mostly shows up as fertility problems and of

the few live

births, the babies are very sick, weak and tend to die. Which is interesting

that the guys in

haz mat suits couldn't catch all of the very healthy and energetic babies.

The owners were not allowed to test any of their own animals, keep a carcass or

even draw

blood to verify any so-called results. They are being charged the cost of the

operation

and animal disposal.

I'm not sure what is going on behind this. It sounds terribly similar to what

happened in

England during the foot and mouth scare and here in the US during the Depression

when

the government decided to reduce the hog population in order to bring up the

price of

pork, although at that time they just came and took the pigs and that was that.

Some

have speculated that this is a test case to judge the public's reaction to

depopulation of a

farm. An interesting fact about England is that even though the amount of beef

produced

did not change, the number of producers fell greatly. The little guys were

never able to

recover and most left the farm.

Government arrogance is not new. I've personally had officials tell me that

there is " no "

building permits for buildings that they had inspected years earlier and have

been

seriously questioned for my feedlot permit when I don't even begin to meet the

minimum

requirements to qualify for a feedlot.

I encourage you to call them and let us know. The verification was done by

Walter Jeffries

from nonais.org

Lynn

>

> When I read the story I understood they have a game preserve that is used by

> hunters at a fee for sport hunting, but they also have pet pigs that they

> raised from new piglets for pets at their home.

>

> As stated, the preserve was set up legally as a business, and has functioned

> as a going business for years being publicly advertised..

>

> Either way, if it was not proven that there was any disease, is it right to

> destroy their personal and business property? Without warrant or notice?

>

> I read the nonais.org article when it first came out and was totally

> confused by it. Somewhere it mentions this place is like a game

> resort where people come to shoot the pigs. Then later, it says the

> pigs are like pets following the owners around the place. It sounds a

> little skewed to me. I distrust the Guv as much as any educated and

> thinking American, but there's more to this story than meets the eye.

> Would love to hear what you have to say if you do call these folks.

[Guest guest]

I just found an updated link for this incident which includes the government's

documents

which interestingly enough order both a quarantine and erradication on the same

day.

http://nonais.org/index.php/2006/10/02/henshaw-documents/

Lynn

> Did you say that you verified this personally or how is it verified. I

believe it but my

husband does not believe that anything like that could happen " in our country " .

He

frustrates me but I was thinking of calling the Henshaws directly so my husband

can hear

it for himself.

>

>